#occhat Transcript – Focus on Models – PEO/PEOP – 2nd July 2013

Thank you @Gerbil10 for facilitating last night’s #occhat on the PEO/PEOP Models – the first in our models series.

Unfortunately, GrabChat’s having some technical problems that’s limiting our ability to post full transcripts of the chats. So we’ve used the transcript captured by Symplur instead:

Helen_otuk
Good evening all ready and waiting for this evenings #Occhat

OTalk_Occhat
#occhat After finally remembering the login details.. @clissa89 here on the @OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Tweet if you get stuck 🙂

Helen_otuk
@gerbil10 Hi Rachel, looking forward to this evenings #Occhat on PEO/PEOP models! Yay.

gerbil10
@clissa89 looking forward to modelling tonight on #occhat

cskies
Ciao for Now Tweeties, gotta run. Be back in a shortly. Lol xx =) Bummer I will miss #Occhat. Enjoy!#occupationaltherapy #OTuesday

clissa89
@OTtwehytweets great idea – relaxing with a cuppa 🙂 thanks for joining us on a hectic day! #Occhat#OTuesday

clissa89
@cskies aww what a shame, hope your day goes well #Occhat #occupationaltherapy #OTuesday

GillyGorry
@clissa89 me 🙂 #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
Just a quick reminder (as always) that @The_HCPC guidelines apply online too – link if you need further info http://t.co/IVXp4foQfX #occhat

BillWongOT
I am here. #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 #Occhat/Otalk have become part of my Tuesday evenings for the past 6 weeks & I rushed home to be on time 🙂

OTalk_Occhat
@billwongot hi Bill, glad to have you here tonight 🙂 #occhat

eileenhegarty7
Good evening from a cold and windswept southwest Ireland #occhat

BillWongOT
@OTalk_Occhat yes… cherishing possibility my last few times with you guys. New job possibly awaits me.#occhat

kilner100
@OTalk_Occhat @gerbil10 listening in live on my first #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
@kilner100 glad to have you here tonight 🙂 please feel free to jump in if you have anything to add!#occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 @gerbil10 yes I have used the general concept of PEO on student placements but never really in depth #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
#occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog:http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG

CeeCeeGeeOT
#Occhat as well 🙂

OTtwehytweets
RT @OTalk_Occhat#occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog: http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG

OTalk_Occhat
#occhat @gerbil10 has also posted a couple prezis on the models: http://t.co/sUXc5toHL5 andhttp://t.co/4M0IgANUjQ

gerbil10
#occhat I think the models are simple to understand because you are considering the person, environment and occupation. The complexity is…

OTalk_Occhat
@maggie_c2 thanks for joining us tonight 🙂 glad you found the prezis useful – thought @gerbil10 did a great job with the blog post! #occhat

kilner100
@OTtwehytweets very useful to have PEO in back on mind on recent role emerging placement #occhat

gerbil10
Thank you@gerbil10 did a great job with the blog post! #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 O is self explanatory… since the occupation is to be a competent occupational therapist. #occhat

GillyGorry
@gerbil10 it is a pilot and no model in there at the mo! so starting from scratch! #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 @BillWongOT @gerbil10 forgot the #occhat sorry!!

GillyGorry
@eileenhegarty7 @gerbil10 thats good..I am the only health professional.. but I need non health profs to use whatever I put in.. #occhat

GillyGorry
RT @OTalk_Occhat#occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog: http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG

Wardmans
Dutch research told me PEO is more of a guide line instead of a model. That is how I use it. #occhat

clissa89
@DoBeDoBeDo14 what good timing for an #occhat series on models 🙂 hope you wlil find them useful & help apply to practice

Helen_otuk
@GillyGorry thinking PEO PEOP could be a good fit. Fits well in social care environments. #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@kilner100 yes I agree 🙂 but I need to research it a bit more I think to get the models full use #Occhat

GillyGorry
@Helen_otuk yes… just thinking that.. #braincogsareturning… #occhat

francescaabrown
For my placement with social services, our initial assessments were based on the PEOP model #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 @BillWongOT I have never used the PEOP model is it much different than the PEO#Occhat #noviceOT

OTalk_Occhat
@francescaabrown can you tell us a bit more about how the assessment was informed by the model? what did it look like? #occhat

GillyGorry
@OTalk_Occhat hmmm almost looks like Kawa.. cross sections and longitudinal #occhat#dontforgetaboutthehashtag

CarmenNQ_OT
@francescaabrown we also used it within A&E for a bit more structure in a busy unpredictable environment#occhat

ColourHealth
listening in … #occhat

kilner100
@OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 @clissa89 @BillWongOT from memory all come from the same place but developed by different people #occhat

OTalk_Occhat
@ColourHealth thanks for joining us tonight 🙂 feel free to join in if you feel brave enough #occhat

GillyGorry
@gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 hmmm… need to do me some peo peop research #occhat

eileenhegarty7
@OTtwehytweets @clissa89 @gerbil10 @BillWongOT Must admit that I struggle to understand the performance section of PEOP. #occhat

francescaabrown
At the centre was the person + then their occupations (self-care, productivity, leisure) + then environment (+ how this (1/2) #occhat

Helen_otuk
RT @francescaabrown: Found it (PEO) a useful tool in social services to help ensure client-centered practice #occhat

francescaabrown
Impacted on their performance. It was helpful in ensuring holistic practice too #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT hope my explanation helped. They both have features I like#occhat

OTtwehytweets
@clissa89 @gerbil10 @BillWongOT will definitely b using this #occhat 2set a new goal 2research & read links on blog just did not have time

clissa89
@gerbil10 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT yes they were helpful thanks – need to revisit as didnt have time to read properly today #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT I like PEO because I think it demonstrates the transaction between the P E and O #Occhat

Helen_otuk
@CarmenNQ_OT @francescaabrown that sounds great, would love to hear more! #Occhat

francescaabrown
*as it prompted the OT to consider every aspect of the person, + considered leisure occupations as well as self-care/productivity#occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 yes I agree When I did use it on my paeds clients it definitely demonstrated the relationship with the P. E & O #Occhat

gerbil10
#occhat second question of the night. What are the challenges for the OT in analysing the transaction between the P E O?

maggie_c2
@OTalk_Occhat in terms of 2nd blog question-challenge of resources exp opportunity to assess in different environments vs. jst clinic#occhat

CarmenNQ_OT
@clissa89 @sophiewearing i find it clear and easy to work with throughout my degree. ensure holistic care + good for presentations #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 must make more time to read references just did not have time to go through before 2nights #Occhat

clissa89
@maggie_c2 I can relate – due to time pressures/rural location etc I only really see people on the ward – not their environment #occhat

GillyGorry
@clissa89 @BoothRach um.. what is #otchat lol #occhat

vivienhampleXM1
RT @OTalk_Occhat#occhat After finally remembering the login details.. @clissa89 here on the@OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Tweet if you g…

sophiewearing
@clissa89 A problem we found, is that we wanted definitive outcome measurability (economic climate)-which COPM&others can provide #Occhat

BillWongOT
@OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 @clissa89 One thing that would be helpful- try to analyze people around you.#occhat

clissa89
@sophiewearing would you mind tweeting again with the #occhat hashtag so everyone can see your tweet?

eileenhegarty7
@gerbil10 Can be a challenge to choose long-term option when resources are tight 2/2 #occhat

sophiewearing
@CarmenNQ_OT @clissa89 Agree,students especially find it useful, it is a very “approachable” model.#Occhat

OTtwehytweets
RT @Helen_otuk@gerbil10 challenge = weighting the importance / meaning for the individual of the P E or O #Occhat

BillWongOT
@gerbil10 @OTtwehytweets @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 Same goes w/ my OTD in US. Leave door open for teaching later. #occhat

eileenhegarty7
@kilner100 I find that much easier to conceptualise and to see that changing over time #occhat

francescaabrown
@sophiewearing asa student on my first placement it was a great introduction in to using models but I agree that it lacked the depth #Occhat

sophiewearing
@francescaabrown Towards a different model for outcome measures or outcome measures generally?#Occhat

BoothRach
@BoothRach@clissa89 good question, has other models developed further? Did it go out of fashion like the use of activities? #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 and when I say I learned I was asked to pick a model to guide my intervention & used PEO so researched myself #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
I can completly understand importance of E as coming from country in which CBR and acess to P life is restricted in a way #Occhat

clissa89
@sophiewearing think when I saw the picture as a student I thought “yup, got that” and didnt look further#confessions #Occhat

sophiewearing
@clissa89 But I see that as a good thing!Why should we struggle with ones that dont neccesarily click with our own learning/setting? #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@gerbil10 @clissa89 I wud have preferred 2 have had guidance on appropriate references 2guide my practice #Occhat

gerbil10
1/2 #occhat @eileenhegarty7 what I like about these models is that E includes the local policies and criteria that impacts on intervention

sophiewearing
@clissa89 Having said that,sometimes a new model brings up interesting points never thought of in that setting #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
@clissa89 #occhat CBR =community based rehabilitation

clissa89
@Sasa_Radic thanks for clarifying 🙂 #occhat

OTtwehytweets
RT @sophiewearing@clissa89 Having said that,sometimes a new model brings up interesting points never thought of in that setting #Occhat

sophiewearing
@francescaabrown Well in our ALS@work we have explored a few& I know we were looking at #COPM and another…cant remember which tho! #Occhat

eileenhegarty7
@gerbil10 Yes, considering policy builds in an advocacy and leadership role for #occupationaltherapy#occhat

gerbil10
RT @eileenhegarty7@gerbil10 Yes, considering policy builds in an advocacy and leadership role for#occupationaltherapy #occhat

sophiewearing
@Helen_otuk @francescaabrown models have gaps though, there are few that really do cover everything for your setting #Occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 E is really important. Learned it the hard way in the placement that I flunked. #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 the thing I love about the transactional analysis of P E O is that it is often hard to know which is influence which #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 I know from my personal experience, E can be a crucial factor for me to succeed in occupations or not. #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 just take #otalk and #occhat for example- you guys are friendly. Hence, I can do the occupation of contributing well. 🙂 #occhat

Sasa_Radic
@sophiewearing what models do you think cover most areas? @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown #Occhat

Helen_otuk
@maggie_c2 @clissa89 but helpful to put the individual and support at the heart of what we do? #Occhat

GillyGorry
RT @Sasa_Radic@sophiewearing what models do you think cover most areas? @Helen_otuk@francescaabrown #Occhat

gerbil10
Last question for #occhat. Regarding E what social and economic policies influence the interventions you provide.

BillWongOT
@kilner100 @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 another 1 I think about is accessibility w/ “E”. E can be a barrier for some1 in participation. #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@kilner100 @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 “e” was one of the most important on community paeds placement. School/home environment #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
Thing whith the E is that you can do you best with P and O but if E is not facilitating there is no long term progress #Occhat

gerbil10
@BillWongOT @kilner100 @eileenhegarty7 so true #occhat

CarmenNQ_OT
@clissa89 its amazing how different OT programmes are just within the UK let alone worldwide!! #occhat

sophiewearing
@Sasa_Radic @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown That depends on lots of aspects&factors!In my opinion,depends on setting/client group/needs #Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I totally agree much focus is entirely on MOHO & COPM #Occhat with other models “just about” mentioned

francescaabrown
At uni, PEO models are rarely discussed. There is a big emphasis on MOHO + COPM which I think can lessen the value #occhat

OTtwehytweets
@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I guess this is where our self directed learning must come in #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
RT @OTtwehytweets@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I totally agree much focus is entirely on MOHO & COPM #Occhat with other models “just about…

Sasa_Radic
@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk and KAWA if specific OT community has had an course on it #Occhat

kilner100
@gerbil10 last placement in a school setting, local school policy but changes in national sen policy key influences #occhat

eileenhegarty7
@BillWongOT @gerbil10 E can provide lots of resources such as social, community and peer groups#occhat

Trio33
Hello everyone just saying hi and lurking for a while 😉 #occhat

clissa89
@Trio33 glad to have you here 🙂 #occhat

Wardmans
@OTalk_Occhat true! I consider a model something you can do wrong and a guideline something you just do. #Occhat

gerbil10
@gerbil10 for me the PEO and PEOP provide me with away of incorporating these two hats into one#Occhat

OTtwehytweets
@OTalk_Occhat my take away message is to make the time to read through @gerbil10 references in blog & set more goals to research:) #Occhat

Sasa_Radic
@OTalk_Occhat That maybe we would need to have more #Occhat about models and their aplications in practice

clissa89
(As a side note, on the theme of copy cat, I just have to share this picture http://t.co/Tu0WtfrHVl via@mmolineux#occhat

gerbil10
@OTalk_Occhat how fast 60 minutes can go and the challenge of keeping up the conversation during#Occhat

eileenhegarty7
@clissa89 I look forward to that #occhat

BillWongOT
@clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 should invite @michael_iwama as the host for this. 🙂 #occhat

GillyGorry
Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat

Sasa_Radic
@clissa89 @gerbil10 Thank you also will research more #Occhat

BoothRach
So sorry #Luther is about to start on BBC1 need to watch it, but will catch up on #Occhat later

BillWongOT
@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

gerbil10
Thank you everyone #occhat. What an experience. Please feel free to contact me through my blog and hope it has provided an insight into PEO

Sasa_Radic
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

kilner100
RT @Sasa_Radic@OTalk_Occhat That maybe we would need to have more #Occhat about models and their aplications in practice

gerbil10
@clissa89 thank you it has been a really valuable experience. #Occhat

GillyGorry
RT @OTtwehytweets@francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I guess this is where our self directed learning must come in #Occhat

MrDarrenGormley
RT @GillyGorry: Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat

maggie_c2
@OTalk_Occhat continuing 2 try & ensure practice reflects models ensures both occupation focus & holistic approach;always more to do #occhat

Sasa_Radic
RT @clissa89@gerbil10 have you got a link to your blog handy? #occhat

kilner100
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

gerbil10
@clissa89 my blog address is http://t.co/opl4oAFtWE It will give me the motivation to keep it more up to date. #occhat

maggie_c2
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 Definitely -also highlights not just physical environment but social element too;thinking more preventative 2 #occhat

francescaabrown
RT @BillWongOT@OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat

Helen_otuk
#Occhat thanks to @gerbil10 great topic! I think we have a new convert, so thanks for such a great debate one and all.

clissa89
Thanks to everyone who participated in #occhat tonight 🙂 & if you fancy hosting a chat/suggesting a topic, let the @OTalk_Occhat team know!

OTtwehytweets
RT @clissa89: Thanks to everyone who participated in #occhat tonight 🙂 & if you fancy hosting a chat/suggesting a topic, let the @OTalk_Oc

maggie_c2
@OTalk_Occhat @clissa89 – sorry forgot the tag! Really liked the two presentations in the blog; good summaries #occhat

OTtwehytweets
RT @gerbil10@clissa89 my blog address is http://t.co/opl4oAFtWE It will give me the motivation to keep it more up to date. #occhat

Keeper85
#occhat ooo what was the topic today??

clissa89
@kilner100 @eileenhegarty7 impressive multitasking 🙂 #occupationalBalance #occhat

clissa89
@Keeper85 we discussed the PEO/PEOP models tonight. have you used them? #occhat

Sasa_Radic
RT @clissa89@Keeper85 we discussed the PEO/PEOP models tonight. have you used them? #occhat

KirkwoodMaureen
@GillyGorry: Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat

OTsinlondon
Short story, long cycle. #lost in spite of google maps. No battery so no #Occhat 😦 will catch up tomorrow.

OTalk_Occhat
Had a great response from the #OTalk #Occhat community about a journal club so far, keep your thoughts coming. http://t.co/FbJxY70xZd

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