Thank you @Gerbil10 for facilitating last night’s #occhat on the PEO/PEOP Models – the first in our models series.
Unfortunately, GrabChat’s having some technical problems that’s limiting our ability to post full transcripts of the chats. So we’ve used the transcript captured by Symplur instead:
Helen_otuk | Good evening all ready and waiting for this evenings #Occhat | |
OTalk_Occhat | #occhat After finally remembering the login details.. @clissa89 here on the @OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Tweet if you get stuck 🙂 | |
Helen_otuk | @gerbil10 Hi Rachel, looking forward to this evenings #Occhat on PEO/PEOP models! Yay. | |
gerbil10 | @clissa89 looking forward to modelling tonight on #occhat | |
cskies | Ciao for Now Tweeties, gotta run. Be back in a shortly. Lol xx =) Bummer I will miss #Occhat. Enjoy!#occupationaltherapy #OTuesday | |
clissa89 | @OTtwehytweets great idea – relaxing with a cuppa 🙂 thanks for joining us on a hectic day! #Occhat#OTuesday | |
clissa89 | @cskies aww what a shame, hope your day goes well #Occhat #occupationaltherapy #OTuesday | |
GillyGorry | @clissa89 me 🙂 #occhat | |
OTalk_Occhat | Just a quick reminder (as always) that @The_HCPC guidelines apply online too – link if you need further info http://t.co/IVXp4foQfX #occhat | |
BillWongOT | I am here. #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @clissa89 #Occhat/Otalk have become part of my Tuesday evenings for the past 6 weeks & I rushed home to be on time 🙂 | |
OTalk_Occhat | @billwongot hi Bill, glad to have you here tonight 🙂 #occhat | |
eileenhegarty7 | Good evening from a cold and windswept southwest Ireland #occhat | |
BillWongOT | @OTalk_Occhat yes… cherishing possibility my last few times with you guys. New job possibly awaits me.#occhat | |
kilner100 | @OTalk_Occhat @gerbil10 listening in live on my first #occhat | |
OTalk_Occhat | @kilner100 glad to have you here tonight 🙂 please feel free to jump in if you have anything to add!#occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @clissa89 @gerbil10 yes I have used the general concept of PEO on student placements but never really in depth #occhat | |
OTalk_Occhat | #occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog:http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG | |
CeeCeeGeeOT | #Occhat as well 🙂 | |
OTtwehytweets | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog: http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG | |
OTalk_Occhat | #occhat @gerbil10 has also posted a couple prezis on the models: http://t.co/sUXc5toHL5 andhttp://t.co/4M0IgANUjQ | |
gerbil10 | #occhat I think the models are simple to understand because you are considering the person, environment and occupation. The complexity is… | |
OTalk_Occhat | @maggie_c2 thanks for joining us tonight 🙂 glad you found the prezis useful – thought @gerbil10 did a great job with the blog post! #occhat | |
kilner100 | @OTtwehytweets very useful to have PEO in back on mind on recent role emerging placement #occhat | |
gerbil10 | Thank you@gerbil10 did a great job with the blog post! #occhat | |
BillWongOT | @clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 O is self explanatory… since the occupation is to be a competent occupational therapist. #occhat | |
GillyGorry | @gerbil10 it is a pilot and no model in there at the mo! so starting from scratch! #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @clissa89 @BillWongOT @gerbil10 forgot the #occhat sorry!! | |
GillyGorry | @eileenhegarty7 @gerbil10 thats good..I am the only health professional.. but I need non health profs to use whatever I put in.. #occhat | |
GillyGorry | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #occhat Some resources for those not familiar with PEO/PEOP models available on our blog: http://t.co/NfjZwlyFtG | |
Wardmans | Dutch research told me PEO is more of a guide line instead of a model. That is how I use it. #occhat | |
clissa89 | @DoBeDoBeDo14 what good timing for an #occhat series on models 🙂 hope you wlil find them useful & help apply to practice | |
Helen_otuk | @GillyGorry thinking PEO PEOP could be a good fit. Fits well in social care environments. #Occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @kilner100 yes I agree 🙂 but I need to research it a bit more I think to get the models full use #Occhat | |
GillyGorry | @Helen_otuk yes… just thinking that.. #braincogsareturning… #occhat | |
francescaabrown | For my placement with social services, our initial assessments were based on the PEOP model #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @gerbil10 @clissa89 @BillWongOT I have never used the PEOP model is it much different than the PEO#Occhat #noviceOT | |
OTalk_Occhat | @francescaabrown can you tell us a bit more about how the assessment was informed by the model? what did it look like? #occhat | |
GillyGorry | @OTalk_Occhat hmmm almost looks like Kawa.. cross sections and longitudinal #occhat#dontforgetaboutthehashtag | |
CarmenNQ_OT | @francescaabrown we also used it within A&E for a bit more structure in a busy unpredictable environment#occhat | |
ColourHealth | listening in … #occhat | |
kilner100 | @OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 @clissa89 @BillWongOT from memory all come from the same place but developed by different people #occhat | |
OTalk_Occhat | @ColourHealth thanks for joining us tonight 🙂 feel free to join in if you feel brave enough #occhat | |
GillyGorry | @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 hmmm… need to do me some peo peop research #occhat | |
eileenhegarty7 | @OTtwehytweets @clissa89 @gerbil10 @BillWongOT Must admit that I struggle to understand the performance section of PEOP. #occhat | |
francescaabrown | At the centre was the person + then their occupations (self-care, productivity, leisure) + then environment (+ how this (1/2) #occhat | |
Helen_otuk | RT @francescaabrown: Found it (PEO) a useful tool in social services to help ensure client-centered practice #occhat | |
francescaabrown | Impacted on their performance. It was helpful in ensuring holistic practice too #occhat | |
gerbil10 | @clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT hope my explanation helped. They both have features I like#occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @clissa89 @gerbil10 @BillWongOT will definitely b using this #occhat 2set a new goal 2research & read links on blog just did not have time | |
clissa89 | @gerbil10 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT yes they were helpful thanks – need to revisit as didnt have time to read properly today #occhat | |
gerbil10 | @clissa89 @OTtwehytweets @BillWongOT I like PEO because I think it demonstrates the transaction between the P E and O #Occhat | |
Helen_otuk | @CarmenNQ_OT @francescaabrown that sounds great, would love to hear more! #Occhat | |
francescaabrown | *as it prompted the OT to consider every aspect of the person, + considered leisure occupations as well as self-care/productivity#occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @gerbil10 @clissa89 yes I agree When I did use it on my paeds clients it definitely demonstrated the relationship with the P. E & O #Occhat | |
gerbil10 | #occhat second question of the night. What are the challenges for the OT in analysing the transaction between the P E O? | |
maggie_c2 | @OTalk_Occhat in terms of 2nd blog question-challenge of resources exp opportunity to assess in different environments vs. jst clinic#occhat | |
CarmenNQ_OT | @clissa89 @sophiewearing i find it clear and easy to work with throughout my degree. ensure holistic care + good for presentations #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @gerbil10 @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 must make more time to read references just did not have time to go through before 2nights #Occhat | |
clissa89 | @maggie_c2 I can relate – due to time pressures/rural location etc I only really see people on the ward – not their environment #occhat | |
GillyGorry | @clissa89 @BoothRach um.. what is #otchat lol #occhat | |
vivienhampleXM1 | RT @OTalk_Occhat: #occhat After finally remembering the login details.. @clissa89 here on the@OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Tweet if you g… | |
sophiewearing | @clissa89 A problem we found, is that we wanted definitive outcome measurability (economic climate)-which COPM&others can provide #Occhat | |
BillWongOT | @OTtwehytweets @gerbil10 @clissa89 One thing that would be helpful- try to analyze people around you.#occhat | |
clissa89 | @sophiewearing would you mind tweeting again with the #occhat hashtag so everyone can see your tweet? | |
eileenhegarty7 | @gerbil10 Can be a challenge to choose long-term option when resources are tight 2/2 #occhat | |
sophiewearing | @CarmenNQ_OT @clissa89 Agree,students especially find it useful, it is a very “approachable” model.#Occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | RT @Helen_otuk: @gerbil10 challenge = weighting the importance / meaning for the individual of the P E or O #Occhat | |
BillWongOT | @gerbil10 @OTtwehytweets @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 Same goes w/ my OTD in US. Leave door open for teaching later. #occhat | |
eileenhegarty7 | @kilner100 I find that much easier to conceptualise and to see that changing over time #occhat | |
francescaabrown | @sophiewearing asa student on my first placement it was a great introduction in to using models but I agree that it lacked the depth #Occhat | |
sophiewearing | @francescaabrown Towards a different model for outcome measures or outcome measures generally?#Occhat | |
BoothRach | @BoothRach: @clissa89 good question, has other models developed further? Did it go out of fashion like the use of activities? #Occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @gerbil10 @clissa89 and when I say I learned I was asked to pick a model to guide my intervention & used PEO so researched myself #Occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | I can completly understand importance of E as coming from country in which CBR and acess to P life is restricted in a way #Occhat | |
clissa89 | @sophiewearing think when I saw the picture as a student I thought “yup, got that” and didnt look further#confessions #Occhat | |
sophiewearing | @clissa89 But I see that as a good thing!Why should we struggle with ones that dont neccesarily click with our own learning/setting? #Occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @gerbil10 @clissa89 I wud have preferred 2 have had guidance on appropriate references 2guide my practice #Occhat | |
gerbil10 | 1/2 #occhat @eileenhegarty7 what I like about these models is that E includes the local policies and criteria that impacts on intervention | |
sophiewearing | @clissa89 Having said that,sometimes a new model brings up interesting points never thought of in that setting #Occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | @clissa89 #occhat CBR =community based rehabilitation | |
clissa89 | @Sasa_Radic thanks for clarifying 🙂 #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | RT @sophiewearing: @clissa89 Having said that,sometimes a new model brings up interesting points never thought of in that setting #Occhat | |
sophiewearing | @francescaabrown Well in our ALS@work we have explored a few& I know we were looking at #COPM and another…cant remember which tho! #Occhat | |
eileenhegarty7 | @gerbil10 Yes, considering policy builds in an advocacy and leadership role for #occupationaltherapy#occhat | |
gerbil10 | RT @eileenhegarty7: @gerbil10 Yes, considering policy builds in an advocacy and leadership role for#occupationaltherapy #occhat | |
sophiewearing | @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown models have gaps though, there are few that really do cover everything for your setting #Occhat | |
BillWongOT | @clissa89 E is really important. Learned it the hard way in the placement that I flunked. #occhat | |
gerbil10 | @clissa89 the thing I love about the transactional analysis of P E O is that it is often hard to know which is influence which #occhat | |
BillWongOT | @clissa89 I know from my personal experience, E can be a crucial factor for me to succeed in occupations or not. #occhat | |
BillWongOT | @clissa89 just take #otalk and #occhat for example- you guys are friendly. Hence, I can do the occupation of contributing well. 🙂 #occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | @sophiewearing what models do you think cover most areas? @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown #Occhat | |
Helen_otuk | @maggie_c2 @clissa89 but helpful to put the individual and support at the heart of what we do? #Occhat | |
GillyGorry | RT @Sasa_Radic: @sophiewearing what models do you think cover most areas? @Helen_otuk@francescaabrown #Occhat | |
gerbil10 | Last question for #occhat. Regarding E what social and economic policies influence the interventions you provide. | |
BillWongOT | @kilner100 @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 another 1 I think about is accessibility w/ “E”. E can be a barrier for some1 in participation. #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @kilner100 @gerbil10 @eileenhegarty7 “e” was one of the most important on community paeds placement. School/home environment #Occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | Thing whith the E is that you can do you best with P and O but if E is not facilitating there is no long term progress #Occhat | |
gerbil10 | @BillWongOT @kilner100 @eileenhegarty7 so true #occhat | |
CarmenNQ_OT | @clissa89 its amazing how different OT programmes are just within the UK let alone worldwide!! #occhat | |
sophiewearing | @Sasa_Radic @Helen_otuk @francescaabrown That depends on lots of aspects&factors!In my opinion,depends on setting/client group/needs #Occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I totally agree much focus is entirely on MOHO & COPM #Occhat with other models “just about” mentioned | |
francescaabrown | At uni, PEO models are rarely discussed. There is a big emphasis on MOHO + COPM which I think can lessen the value #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I guess this is where our self directed learning must come in #Occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | RT @OTtwehytweets: @francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I totally agree much focus is entirely on MOHO & COPM #Occhat with other models “just about… | |
Sasa_Radic | @francescaabrown @Helen_otuk and KAWA if specific OT community has had an course on it #Occhat | |
kilner100 | @gerbil10 last placement in a school setting, local school policy but changes in national sen policy key influences #occhat | |
eileenhegarty7 | @BillWongOT @gerbil10 E can provide lots of resources such as social, community and peer groups#occhat | |
Trio33 | Hello everyone just saying hi and lurking for a while 😉 #occhat | |
clissa89 | @Trio33 glad to have you here 🙂 #occhat | |
Wardmans | @OTalk_Occhat true! I consider a model something you can do wrong and a guideline something you just do. #Occhat | |
gerbil10 | @gerbil10 for me the PEO and PEOP provide me with away of incorporating these two hats into one#Occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | @OTalk_Occhat my take away message is to make the time to read through @gerbil10 references in blog & set more goals to research:) #Occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | @OTalk_Occhat That maybe we would need to have more #Occhat about models and their aplications in practice | |
clissa89 | (As a side note, on the theme of copy cat, I just have to share this picture http://t.co/Tu0WtfrHVl via@mmolineux) #occhat | |
gerbil10 | @OTalk_Occhat how fast 60 minutes can go and the challenge of keeping up the conversation during#Occhat | |
eileenhegarty7 | @clissa89 I look forward to that #occhat | |
BillWongOT | @clissa89 @eileenhegarty7 should invite @michael_iwama as the host for this. 🙂 #occhat | |
GillyGorry | Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | @clissa89 @gerbil10 Thank you also will research more #Occhat | |
BoothRach | So sorry #Luther is about to start on BBC1 need to watch it, but will catch up on #Occhat later | |
BillWongOT | @OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat | |
gerbil10 | Thank you everyone #occhat. What an experience. Please feel free to contact me through my blog and hope it has provided an insight into PEO | |
Sasa_Radic | RT @BillWongOT: @OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat | |
kilner100 | RT @Sasa_Radic: @OTalk_Occhat That maybe we would need to have more #Occhat about models and their aplications in practice | |
gerbil10 | @clissa89 thank you it has been a really valuable experience. #Occhat | |
GillyGorry | RT @OTtwehytweets: @francescaabrown @Helen_otuk I guess this is where our self directed learning must come in #Occhat | |
MrDarrenGormley | RT @GillyGorry: Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat | |
maggie_c2 | @OTalk_Occhat continuing 2 try & ensure practice reflects models ensures both occupation focus & holistic approach;always more to do #occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | RT @clissa89: @gerbil10 have you got a link to your blog handy? #occhat | |
kilner100 | RT @BillWongOT: @OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat | |
gerbil10 | @clissa89 my blog address is http://t.co/opl4oAFtWE It will give me the motivation to keep it more up to date. #occhat | |
maggie_c2 | @Helen_otuk @clissa89 Definitely -also highlights not just physical environment but social element too;thinking more preventative 2 #occhat | |
francescaabrown | RT @BillWongOT: @OTalk_Occhat PEO model is embedded in our practice, whether we know it or not. 1/2 #occhat | |
Helen_otuk | #Occhat thanks to @gerbil10 great topic! I think we have a new convert, so thanks for such a great debate one and all. | |
clissa89 | Thanks to everyone who participated in #occhat tonight 🙂 & if you fancy hosting a chat/suggesting a topic, let the @OTalk_Occhat team know! | |
OTtwehytweets | RT @clissa89: Thanks to everyone who participated in #occhat tonight 🙂 & if you fancy hosting a chat/suggesting a topic, let the @OTalk_Oc… | |
maggie_c2 | @OTalk_Occhat @clissa89 – sorry forgot the tag! Really liked the two presentations in the blog; good summaries #occhat | |
OTtwehytweets | RT @gerbil10: @clissa89 my blog address is http://t.co/opl4oAFtWE It will give me the motivation to keep it more up to date. #occhat | |
Keeper85 | #occhat ooo what was the topic today?? | |
clissa89 | @kilner100 @eileenhegarty7 impressive multitasking 🙂 #occupationalBalance #occhat | |
clissa89 | @Keeper85 we discussed the PEO/PEOP models tonight. have you used them? #occhat | |
Sasa_Radic | RT @clissa89: @Keeper85 we discussed the PEO/PEOP models tonight. have you used them? #occhat | |
KirkwoodMaureen | “@GillyGorry: Next week @MrDarrenGormley will be hosting #otalk on professional boundaries #occhat” | |
OTsinlondon | Short story, long cycle. #lost in spite of google maps. No battery so no #Occhat 😦 will catch up tomorrow. | |
OTalk_Occhat | Had a great response from the #OTalk #Occhat community about a journal club so far, keep your thoughts coming. http://t.co/FbJxY70xZd |
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