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@clissa89 |
#occhat tonight on occupational interventions – http://t.co/nBYOe8jSO5 – 8pm GMT, hosted by @kirstyes . #occupationaltherapy #OTuesday (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:38:34 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
Joining #occhat for 1st time tonight? Check out this guide http://t.co/gLr9wRXgZO & tweet @clissa89 with any questions :)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:39:09 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
Evening all, hope everyone is excited to talk occupational interventions. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:59:46 +0000) |
@Donna_Peach |
RT @OTalk_Occhat : Joining #occhat for 1st time tonight? Check out this guide http://t.co/gLr9wRXgZO & tweet @clissa89 with any questions :)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:00:15 +0000) |
@clissa89 |
@Richardsblister hope you will be able to join us for #occhat tonight :)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:00:33 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
#occhat so let’s kick off with some bragging about good occupational practice you’ve done/seen?(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:03:58 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
A quick reminder that professional standards apply online too – here’s the @The_HCPC guide http://t.co/dVRMZ2fDVW #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:05:37 +0000) |
@clissa89 |
RT @kirstyes : #occhat so let’s kick off with some bragging about good occupational practice you’ve done/seen?(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:05:44 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
RT @OTalk_Occhat : Hi everyone, @clissa89 here on the @OTalk_Occhat account tonight. Let me know if you need any help 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:06:22 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
#occhat some examples from my past practice used compensation via Remap to really allow clients to engage in meaningful occupations. 1/2(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:06:36 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
#occhat 2/2 for one that was smoking and for another being able to cut her own gauze to manage a colostomy. Linked to occupational goals.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:07:09 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
RT @OTalk_Occhat : A quick reminder that professional standards apply online too – here’s the @The_HCPC guide http://t.co/dVRMZ2fDVW #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:07:15 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @OTalk_Occhat : A quick reminder that professional standards apply online too – here’s the @The_HCPC guide http://t.co/dVRMZ2fDVW #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:07:22 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
good occupational practice I’ve seen on placements has had facilitation of client’s choice of #meaningful #occupation at core #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:07:43 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes if it’s me- I would say a session I had on how I socialize w/ ppl at OT conference my favorite. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:08:01 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT great. Nice, specific and so related to real daily life. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:09:00 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
#occhat for those who dont know my name is karen miles and I work with veterans with ptsd – ask away(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:09:09 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
@Richardsblister so glad you could join us tonight Karen. can you tell us a bit about occupational interventions in your setting? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:09:38 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@OTalk_Occhat @richardsblister Ditto what she said ;0) #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:10:06 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes yes… that session we talked about skills I need to perform the occupation and set some manageable goals afterwards. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:10:14 +0000) |
@pd2ot |
Just watching #occhat tonight. Great topic, I’m just a bit tired for full participation.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:10:37 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
Ive worked with a client with severe LDs working on engagement and finding meaningful occupations to support transferable skills.. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:10:38 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@kirstyes agree that occupational goal-setting and interventions key to good practice. Linked to understanding strengths and needs #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:10:46 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
Examples from my practice include, supporting individuals to access appropriate housing that facilities family life. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:11:06 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
@pd2ot glad you’re here but understand that you can’t participate fully. have you got a relevant blog post to share? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:11:47 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Symbolic_Life Really like this strengths based approach to interventions. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:11:52 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
#occhat MT @Richardsblister : Veterans fairly high functioning so lots of interventions surrounding self esteem & confidence, comm & Interact(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:12:17 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Helen_otuk I suspect a lot of that is by justifying the adaptations etc in engagement terms. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:12:48 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@kirstyes #occhat I like to see choice of occupation 4 client rehab. I often need 2 learn about an occupation 2 support participation.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:12:48 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
#occhat MT @Richardsblister : motivation, process skills – everything based on MOHOST! which is what we use for baseline & evaluation(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:13:34 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life I 2nd that. It’ill really help in cases where clients have 2 get around struggles they have in occupations #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:13:35 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @gilliancrossley : @kirstyes #occhat I like to see choice of occupation 4 client rehab. I often need 2 learn about an occupation 2 support participation.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:13:46 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@gilliancrossley and what methods do you use to find out about an occupation? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:14:15 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
RT @OTalk_Occhat : #occhat MT @Richardsblister : motivation, process skills – everything based on MOHOST! which is what we use for baseline & evaluation(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:14:32 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
Im currently based in a rehab step down setting supporting physical and some emotional needs ti carry out meaningful roles and occs #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:14:44 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
Do you tend to use occupation as means or ends more (or equal). Can you give an example of each? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:15:21 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@kirstyes it can mean, researching – online, talking, telephone. I need to know what something involves in order to activity analyse #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:15:38 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
Hello all, on a tweet chat – is this clearer for all? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:15:45 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@BillWongOT @kirstyes it was rather interesting the positive impact to new occupations and there previous challenging behaviour. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:16:24 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@gilliancrossley we had this very discussion in class today ;0) #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:16:27 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes The OT conference example I gave probably was an occupation as means #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:16:39 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
@kirstyes for adaptation work yes, but also work with individuals to look at rehousing, or moving out of parents home etc. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:16:44 +0000) |
@clissa89 |
@kirstyes link to article by gray re occupation as means and ends http://t.co/rFT9MFbu7c #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:16:46 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
MDT were struggling to decide if a SU had ASC. I took her to a community sewing group (her interest) 1/2 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:17:06 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@kirstyes oh really! I think its important not to limit yourself to the occupations you already know #NeverStopLearning #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:17:21 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
? @clissa89 : @kirstyes link to article by gray re occupation as means and ends http://t.co/OxOcu3LDGT #occhat ? Thanks Clarissa.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:17:29 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
RT @clissa89 : @kirstyes link to article by gray re occupation as means and ends http://t.co/rFT9MFbu7c #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:17:29 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes occupations as ends probably can be as simple as regaining range to be able to turn a key to drive a car. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:17:29 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
MOHOST starkly showed up communication difficulties and was great evidence to contribute to diagnosis 2/2 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:18:23 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@Richardsblister Nice to meet you. I bet your role is very interesting! Is it a very occupation focused role? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:18:26 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
the basis of our interventions with veterans with ptsd are based on good old fashioned creativity, based on reducing cortisol #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:18:30 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT But how would you help a client regain range? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:18:39 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
I am all about occupation cant say that for all settings i have encountered i tend to highlight the transferable skill to the client #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:18:54 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@clissa89 @kirstyes I’ve facilitated creative groups using occupation as a means for personal capacity development #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:19:14 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT Was that not ends because the intervention became the end outcome? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:19:30 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@AnnabelFenn @clissa89 what are some of the challenges with this do you think? And the positives? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:20:05 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@kirstyes I have been thinking about ends and means.. I think of it as activity analysis. when we take an activity/ occupation #occhat 1/2(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:20:40 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes in that setting, that will be through therapy as well as home programs, I believe. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:20:55 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes it was a means because the overall goal at the time was to improve my social skills. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:21:22 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@kirstyes @clissa89 challenges included complexity of occupation and evidencing meaningful outcomes #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:21:22 +0000) |
@pd2ot |
@OTalk_Occhat #occhat I *think* this post covers interventions that helped me.. http://t.co/hoMZVN7dj4 (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:21:22 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister how do you ensure intervention is meaningful? Is it group or individual sessions or a mix? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:22:01 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@kirstyes 2/2 #occhat and put in its component parts. is each part an occupation or a building block.each 2b mastered 2build and occupation?(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:22:12 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
@pd2ot thanks for hunting that out 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:22:23 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes it is a mix to be honest – such as mind gym group, healthy living group and then individual tailored interventions #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:23:32 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
#occhat struggling to keep up with occ chat tonight… My brain hurts ;-)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:23:52 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT what do you mean by through therapy and home programs? Can you be specific? What would the client do. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:24:04 +0000) |
@clissa89 |
@Symbolic_Life I think a few of us are in the same boat tonight 🙂 remember, you can add comments tomorrow too #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:24:31 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT so was it less about the specific situation and working on transferable skills? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:24:48 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT maybe in your case it was as ends and means. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:25:12 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes for example i have a client using photography to get in touch with his emotions, another drawing cartoons for his daughter #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:25:13 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @AnnabelFenn : @kirstyes @clissa89 challenges included complexity of occupation and evidencing meaningful outcomes #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:25:21 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes therapy in that setting were massage and PAMs. Home program can be exercises/stretches. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:25:37 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@AnnabelFenn @clissa89 ah something to talk about next time in our occupational outcome measures chat ;0) #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:25:52 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes that’s right. At that time, my frequency of initiating conversations was very low. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:26:14 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
I challenge myself and constantly query ‘where is the occupation’ in what I do? often I feel occupation is the ends to my work. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:26:30 +0000) |
@SarahDobby77094 |
#occhat thankyou for sharing pd2ot, all the best for the rest of your ot journey(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:26:48 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@kirstyes @clissa89 ohhh sounds meaty! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:27:25 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister Those sound great!! #occhat Whatdoes a mind gym session look like? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:27:34 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@Helen_otuk go back to our roots. occupation is something that is meaningful to us as opposed to a task #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:27:52 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
I often work with people where an occupation is the end goal, they are deprived of occupations. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:28:14 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT But are these occupational interventions? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:28:24 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes we teach the basics of what goes wrong with STM when you have PTSD and how this has an impact on fx. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:28:37 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@Helen_otuk me to. I think Its important to be mindful about occupation. I think in some settings it can be easy to let it slip #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:28:43 +0000) |
@CharOTReilly |
@Georgia_Fair iv experienced that too #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:29:16 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes we have characters called Amy G Dala, Camp Hippo and the boss cortex to describe..then we give info on now to improve #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:29:45 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
RT @Richardsblister : @Helen_otuk go back to our roots. occupation is something that is meaningful to us as opposed to a task #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:30:16 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair So how do you enable that end? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:30:16 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes therapy- it’s arguable. But home program can be if it is related to the person’s interests, I think. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:30:27 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
RT @clissa89 : @kirstyes link to article by gray re occupation as means and ends http://t.co/rFT9MFbu7c #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:31:08 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@Richardsblister @kirstyes what great teaching tools! I wish I had this when revising anatomy and physiology 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:31:59 +0000) |
@Wardmans |
Very nice topic tonight on twitter. Using http://t.co/s0YH74lIUz for #occhat works for me to smooth things out. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:32:06 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @pd2ot : @OTalk_Occhat #occhat I *think* this post covers interventions that helped me.. http://t.co/hoMZVN7dj4 (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:32:13 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@BillWongOT @kirstyes home programmes enabling in occupation? What is the specifics? Have u experience with a client to explain? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:32:22 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@pd2ot I remember reading that. Very useful. Will have a re-read at the end. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:32:33 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
Engage in relaxation and work to identify and understand anxiety and practice social communication to build up to socialising #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:32:55 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@AnnabelFenn so do I – the vets then get it and we then go onto doing simple puzzles, spot the diff, etc #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:33:06 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister I like these names. Think I might need a lesson. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:33:10 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes That I don’t remember so well because my head is full of #autism stuff at the moment. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:33:47 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT Yes def, if the ‘exercise’ can be doing an occupation that encourages that movement. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:33:52 +0000) |
@MissHeldi |
#occhat @kirstyes Occupation- AND person-centered. Plus not doing activities for the sake of doing them but with actual purpose and meaning.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:34:20 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes but if it’s with a client with #autism , it is something that the client can work w/ some1 close to him/her #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:34:40 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes anytime, is surely teaches you how flashbacks happen and why ptsd has stm problems, amy with her hand on a bursting filing #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:35:07 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes an example of that could be small talk… where a family member/close friend can provide some feedback. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:35:39 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair using occ as means then? #occhat Do you look at general relaxation and specific ‘on the spot’ relaxation strategies? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:35:49 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @MissHeldi : #occhat @kirstyes Occupation- AND person-centered. Plus not doing activities for the sake of doing them but with actual purpose and meaning.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:36:23 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@BillWongOT @kirstyes so you are using behavioural for and sensory input maybe to assist carrying our societal meaningful roles? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:36:45 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@MissHeldi Can you share a specific confidential example? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:36:45 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
important to remain aware of person centred issues too. Often adaptations can seen as prescriptive, but I feel that knowing the 1/2 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:36:59 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister Have you thought of making some You Tube videos? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:37:55 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes yes/no- if the client has desires to make more friends, then that’s an occupational goal, right? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:38:22 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@kirstyes Relaxation to be practiced daily to become aware of body and self and recognise anxiety response. On the spot – breathing #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:38:27 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
Its about the context and exploration for the use of equipment relative to occupation #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:38:53 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@BillWongOT @symbolic_life Yup, I’d say so. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:39:01 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
2/2 occupational goals of the individual can ensure we make changes appropriate to the person. Not just an ‘accessible property’ #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:39:15 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes No I haven’t, but I suppose that cud b gd, provide my charity did not object! sharing best prac. is gd, but have to b wise #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:39:20 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@kirstyes @billwongot I agree… It’s using these tools as a means of occupational goal.. Core to OT and client centred approach.. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:40:01 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair Thanks. #occhat is this daily relax one type or do people get to explore different types to see what works best for them? 1/2(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:40:14 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair e.g. Whale music vs white noise vs tense and release etc 2/2 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:40:40 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes I recalled my OT gave me a sheet with tips to doing small talk. She went over it with me. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:41:11 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@kirstyes I use person centred thinking tools to identify good day/bad day and factors of each to help plan a successful activity #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:41:14 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@Symbolic_Life I’ve found for acceptance and use of equipment understanding occupational identity is essential #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:41:32 +0000) |
@SarahDobby77094 |
#occhat @ Helen_otuk guess that goes for equipment as well, how you one be able to justify some items on occupation in current climate in cec?(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:41:50 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes and then I carried over in the classroom and community settings. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:42:09 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister Yes intellectual property etc That’s where online open access journals could come into own ‘alternative media’ #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:42:23 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
RT @Symbolic_Life : Its about the context and exploration for the use of equipment relative to occupation #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:42:24 +0000) |
@charl885 |
i’m here better late than never! just catching up on #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:42:28 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@kirstyes I use PMR and visualisation and get people to feedback. Visualisation too abstract for some people with LD #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:42:32 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
on subject of relax, our veterans have a range, including mindfulness #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:42:33 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
@charl885 glad you could join us 🙂 we’re talking about occupational interventions #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:43:07 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair I’m not familiar with what you mean by person centred thinking tools.Can you share reference/link? #occhat Sounds interesting(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:44:00 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @AnnabelFenn : @Symbolic_Life I’ve found for acceptance and use of equipment understanding occupational identity is essential #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:44:08 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair And has some contraindications with some. I like my sounds of the rain app. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:45:02 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@kirstyes I will find a reference and post later 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:45:45 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@charl885 care to share an example of good practice re: occ interventions you’ve seen/done? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:46:01 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
#occhat ooh need to chuck my controversial question out before time’s up. Do occupational interventions have to be provided by OTs? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:46:05 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair fabulous. Thank you. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:46:26 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@kirstyes YES! To involve all concept and a holistic approach!!! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:46:54 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes I think OT interventions are done already by mdt, however, OT’s should make it known that we do it better :oP #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:47:25 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@kirstyes Found the link: http://t.co/fVvN0BiNCA #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:47:37 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @Georgia_Fair : @kirstyes Found the link: http://t.co/fVvN0BiNCA #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:47:54 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@kirstyes ooo that question makes my head explode! 😉 #occhat #OTJUSTICE (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:48:14 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes It depends on setting- I think it is generally yes… otherwise we can’t separate ourselves from other disciplines. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:48:15 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes agreed – although technical instructors/OTAs play important role too. Is it a case of clinical reasoning? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:48:40 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Richardsblister @kirstyes That is summed up very nicely! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:49:01 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Symbolic_Life But what if there is a really good community group running that has no OT involvement? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:49:24 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@AnnabelFenn yes, we have recovery workers who do graded practise, if just left to us we could not cope with demand #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:49:33 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@AnnabelFenn @symbolic_life Good point. Pragmatically we don’t have time to do everything hands on ourselves. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:49:55 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@AnnabelFenn @kirstyes We should assess set up inter’s which can be supported by others..But we should evaluate relative to occ goal #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:50:08 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@AnnabelFenn on placement with an #OT using non-contact time to learn about a pts condition to increase compliance with intervention #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:50:20 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister I’ve seen that ;0) OTs do it better!! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:50:23 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
@kirstyes I would say no, we have reablement workers who do the doing… after OT sets the goals with the individual. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:50:50 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life one example I often see in my community of such are tai-chi groups at the park. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:50:55 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes something I face every day – other mdt doing OT stuff – but I just politely show them the correct way….(grin)
#occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:51:33 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Symbolic_Life @annabelfenn So maybe assessment &evaluation but intervention may not be purely ours?? Depends on need for grading?? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:51:51 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn If it’s me, I may provide a caregiver/client my email if he/she have more questions about what I am doing. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:51:58 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
also clients going off doing own intervention, again maybe after setting goals with OT etc. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:52:01 +0000) |
@zzzoooman |
@kirstyes #occhat . I Don’t think it does, however to understand the best impact and outcome you need to understand the philosophy. (1/2)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:52:42 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn I know that in peds settings, you might not have time to explain everything. Phone #/email can help. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:52:44 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@kirstyes I would say yes, as our training focuses around this like no other profession. Others are perhaps more client-centred? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:53:03 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@kirstyes @annabelfenn agree.. although assessment is reviewed throughout… So maintenance of graded support? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:53:07 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister I wonder though that if we truly want occupation 2take over the world that we should encourage adoption by others? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:53:38 +0000) |
@MissHeldi |
#occhat @kirstyes Creative writing session for someone who has blunt affect, limited verbal communication, etc but enjoys writing poems.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:53:54 +0000) |
@zzzoooman |
@kirstyes #occhat (2/2) Which you will only get in your training.. So I think its better done by an OT.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:53:56 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister but with #occhat support/consultation by ourselves.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:53:57 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @Helen_otuk : also clients going off doing own intervention, again maybe after setting goals with OT etc. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:09 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@BillWongOT @AnnabelFenn what if it is an acute setting? or is that more appropriate to community/outpatient roles? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:15 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
RT @kirstyes : @Richardsblister but with #occhat support/consultation by ourselves.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:21 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes @AnnabelFenn maintenance is definitely important. That is what my LRD sessions this yr are for. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:28 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Helen_otuk Yup, this should be the ultimate goal ;0) #occhat When we aren’t needed is when we’ve done a great job?!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:42 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
@kirstyes we should encourage education around OT – i had psych telling me about behavioral activation..so i replied you mean OT? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:47 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @zzzoooman : @kirstyes #occhat . I Don’t think it does, however to understand the best impact and outcome you need to understand the philosophy. (1/2)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:54:50 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@MissHeldi @kirstyes or I will add some clients who may need assistive devices in order to write. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:55:02 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@BillWongOT @kirstye Activity is necessary for wellbeing, but OT interventions have assessment and goals. That’s the difference #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:55:08 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
RT @Helen_otuk : also clients going off doing own intervention, again maybe after setting goals with OT etc. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:55:10 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@zzzoooman Agree. This has been shown in the well elderly study. It’s the difference between occupation and activity maybe. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:55:29 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes also depends on staff skills in observation and analysing response to interventions I think #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:55:53 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @Symbolic_Life : @kirstyes @annabelfenn agree.. although assessment is reviewed throughout… So maintenance of graded support? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:56:04 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn It depends on each situation- no definite answer here. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:56:04 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@charl885 @kirstyes I would argue OT is more client centred! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:56:28 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @MissHeldi : #occhat @kirstyes Creative writing session for someone who has blunt affect, limited verbal communication, etc but enjoys writing poems.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:56:31 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@BillWongOT @AnnabelFenn this may mean you’re too accessible-detrimental to workload/time to work with other clients. #balance #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:56:39 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
RT @kirstyes : @Helen_otuk Yup, this should be the ultimate goal ;0) #occhat When we aren’t needed is when we’ve done a great job?!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:57:34 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn If I do this, though, I will do it after regular work hours. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:57:39 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister Lol. Love it. It does seem as if there is jumping on our bandwagon. Recovery?! We need the evidence we do it better #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:57:49 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn Maybe because I am an #autism advocate, but I feel for their struggles a lot more. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:58:20 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
#occhat So, last three minutes. Take home messages? Thanks one and all. Really great discussion. Will grabchat in 24 hrs.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:58:29 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@Georgia_Fair @kirstyes I meant to say other jobs would only be client-centred rather than occupation focussed,whereas OTs are both #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:58:29 +0000) |
@Richardsblister |
Ok all its been a blast but this specialist OT needs a shower, if any interested further info on veterans with ptsd please e mail @ #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:58:37 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair @billwongot Love it. Nice summary. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 20:59:18 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Georgia_Fair @charl885 Check out @pd2ot blog link in thread. We aren’t always?! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:00:14 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
#occhat OT rules. We take a persons philosophy and work with it though the means of their chosen occupational goals..basically WE WORK IT!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:00:32 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@kirstyes I work in a team that thinks very holistically and I focus on occupation to differentiate from LD nurses #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:00:59 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@BillWongOT @AnnabelFenn would again think of your own life #balance plus giving each client the amount of time they deserve #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:01:04 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@kirstyes As OTs, I think occupational interventions are essential. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:01:23 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Richardsblister take care. Thanks and will be in touch re brain stuff! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:01:24 +0000) |
@zzzoooman |
@charl885 @Georgia_Fair @kirstyes #occhat Some activity is better than no activity…Use it or loose it!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:01:50 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn It’s a hard balance. I wear the #autism advocate hat when I am not practicing most of the time. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:02:32 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@BillWongOT @charl885 @AnnabelFenn be careful you also need balance to ensure you have a straight head to support your reasoning! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:02:37 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Helen_otuk ;0) #occhat There aren’t enough hours in a day, are there?(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:02:50 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@BillWongOT @AnnabelFenn that is admirable&going the extra mile is one reason I became an OT,but there must be time for you #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:03:08 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @AnnabelFenn So I often enfold advocacy work in trying to help clients and families in the best of my ability. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:03:18 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
@zzzoooman Totally agree! Always explaining to ward staff I AM NOT AN ACTIVITY COORDINATOR!!! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:03:40 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Symbolic_Life in the discussion with the OT ;0)
Seriously though. There is some great occupational interventions out there not OT #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:04:15 +0000) |
@AnnabelFenn |
Brilliant #occhat this evening. Thank you for having me! #Timefortea (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:04:37 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @charl885 @AnnabelFenn yes… that’s true. That’s why I purposely tried to not think about #OT stuff on weekends. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:05:07 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
RT @Symbolic_Life : #occhat OT rules. We take a persons philosophy and work with it though the means of their chosen occupational goals..basically WE WORK IT!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:05:59 +0000) |
@Georgia_Fair |
Goodnight all, see you next week #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:06:06 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
@kirstyes also cost implications for the employer, do you need to pay an OT to do everything? more cost effective to guide/review? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:06:07 +0000) |
@Keeper85 |
RT @Symbolic_Life : #occhat OT rules. We take a persons philosophy and work with it though the means of their chosen occupational goals..basically WE WORK IT!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:07:02 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Helen_otuk There will be times when it does need to be us though. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:07:46 +0000) |
@charl885 |
Glad I caught the end of #occhat – great discussion as always. And I got to try out tweetdeck for the first time!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:07:56 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
RT @kirstyes : @Helen_otuk There will be times when it does need to be us though. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:08:10 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
Thank you to everyone who participated in and watched #occhat tonight – feel free to add further comments over the next 24 hours :)(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:08:27 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@Symbolic_Life @charl885 @AnnabelFenn Yes… that’s why church is an important wkly occupation 4 me (unless I’ve 2 go 2 an OT conf) #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:08:39 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
#occhat @Helen_otuk : Thanks to @kirstyes for hosting and to @clissa89 for guiding us.(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:08:50 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@OTalk_Occhat Thanks @clissa89 on the account. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:09:05 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes Links also with role of OT assistants and Technical Instructors? OT driven still, but better financially #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:09:20 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
@kirstyes I think it depends if the occupational intervention has therapeutic value, isn’t that was makes it OT…. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:09:30 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
@kirstyes yes, we need to keep an eye and have good communication links. But we do not need to do everything. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:10:00 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Symbolic_Life What we should be doing is tapping into them, helping evaluate them. Offering consultation for better outcomes?? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:10:15 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@kirstyes laptop – just http://t.co/jeONW7uB2A and sign up. Definitely much easier than following #occhat on regular twitter!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:10:18 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
#occhat A Yummy Chat! Very reflective its prompted this week reflection for me! ;-)Thanks! Wisdom OTs #attemptingtocharmOTsChatting #allure (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:10:31 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes… I see that in US, too. COTA’s earn about 50-70% of what OTR’s make. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:10:41 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
@charl885 yes very similar. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:10:49 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@gilliancrossley Yes I guess so. ;0) #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:11:06 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@Symbolic_Life @BillWongOT @annabelfenn Couldn’t agree more – projects on the go is good, but set aside structured time to relax #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:11:29 +0000) |
@Symbolic_Life |
@kirstyes I like! We need to go private boss.. Lets chat about this venture ;-)! All JKing a side I agree completely!! #occhat #occjustice .(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:12:49 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @Symbolic_Life @AnnabelFenn If I have my paycheck, I am investing some on some golf clubs. #occhat #onewaytorelax (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:12:51 +0000) |
@charl885 |
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @kirstyes What do COTA and OTR stand for? Just so I understand roles in other countries! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:13:35 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @Symbolic_Life @AnnabelFenn if not, I will go a cheap alternative in doing disc golf. #occhat #onewaytorelax (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:13:39 +0000) |
@gilliancrossley |
thanks @kirstyes for hosting a great chat! I feel a blog post coming on! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:13:41 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @Helen_otuk @kirstyes Certified OT assistant = COTA, OTR = registered OT. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:14:15 +0000) |
@Helen_otuk |
YES! RT @kirstyes : What we should be doing is tapping into them, helping evaluate them. Offering consultation for better outcomes?? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:14:38 +0000) |
@Keeper85 |
@clissa89 @kirstyes love this paper! #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:14:51 +0000) |
@kirstyes |
@Symbolic_Life ;0) #occhat We may have to!(Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:14:52 +0000) |
@BillWongOT |
@charl885 @Helen_otuk @kirstyes But the /L is important because it shows that you are licensed, which allows you to practice. #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:15:07 +0000) |
@charl885 |
it’s been brief but I’m off. Enjoy your evenings all (or day if you’re @billwongOT !) #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:18:04 +0000) |
@OTalk_Occhat |
@Symbolic_Life thank you for your contributions. perhaps you would like to share your reflection on the blog? #occhat (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:19:02 +0000) |
@PamelaTiree |
Damn, missed #occhat again! My 1st week WILL be next week. Awesome VLs @QMUniversity today, Lifestyle Redesign and MOHO #OTuesday (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:29:00 +0000) |
@allisulli |
RT @pd2ot : @OTalk_Occhat #occhat I *think* this post covers interventions that helped me.. http://t.co/hoMZVN7dj4 (Tue, 12 Mar 2013 21:55:22 +0000) |
@socphd |
Let’s not keep this dynamic collaboration a secret invite others to join us please RT #nsmnss #edchat #soMe4D #occhat http://t.co/nQONkIURqa (Wed, 13 Mar 2013 07:29:50 +0000) |