#occhat Grabchat – Boredom (7th May 2013)

Thank you to everyone who participated in last night’s (un-boring) chat!

I’d like to add a quote that someone posted in the ‘Mindfulness’ Facebook group in response to my blog post:

 

The Other Side of Boredom

When you are really bored, the best thing you can do is sit down and let yourself experience the boredom more fully. It may not be a deep or satisfying state, but at least you are not indulging in the things with which you usually cover up this kind of experience. Your real state of mind is more nakedly exposed, because for the time being there are no distractions. If you can stay with the experience of boredom, you can try to feel your way through into something deeper, truer, and more spontaneous within yourself.

– Sangharakshita, “Staying with Boredom”

 

Remember to document your participation in this chat as evidence of continuing professional development (check out our OTalk/Occhat and your CPD page), and please share any further thoughts/reflections in the comments below.

 

 

Involved …

@clissa89 @BillWongOT @claireOT @Keeper85 @GillyGorry @pd2ot @Helen_otuk @OTalk_Occhat @CharOTReilly @robbrooks_uk @kirstyes @Tchamp13 @sophiewearing @Nnikki_Duffy @BPDFFS @Minervabythesea @Thoodles @Dai2584 @darthknitty @sarahahpmh @SherieneHannah @roberTO_OT @CommuneOT @LeonoraOT @AliSeasman @pocketot @quirkygrump

Top resources …

http://shamelessotgeek.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/boredom/
http://otalkocchats.wordpress.com/2013/05/05/occhat-boredom-7th-may-2013/
http://www.slideshare.net/ClaireJones1/final-ot24vx-presentation
http://claireot.wordpress.com/tag/maslows-hiersrchy-of-needs/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocooning
http://dai2584blog.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/well-being-of-one-nation/
http://claireot.wordpress.com/?s=How+to+twitter

Related tags …

#sensorysensitivity #otalk #otuesday #boredom #confessions #24otvx #occupationaltherapy #oftenwhenalone #lackofstimulation #cyberhugs

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@OTalk_Occhat Are you bored tonight?If so come and join our #occhat on boredom and debate the potential role of OT in addressing it http://t.co/67nzx01IED (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:50:52 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @OTalk_Occhat : Blog post written by @clissa89 on boredom http://t.co/ZMqOYi2fkf #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:52:54 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat It’s @kirstyes on the account tonight, meeting and greeting. Any questions do ask. Remember to follow our code of conduct. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:54:49 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @clissa should be guiding us through the topic of boredom tonight. Wish her speedy Internet. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:55:47 +0100)
@clissa89 #occhat in 5 minutes: boredom. Has anyone been able to tear themselves away from the gorgeous sunshine and come back inside? #OTuesday (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:57:08 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Good evening all, here for #occhat .(Tue, 07 May 2013 19:57:23 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy #occhat hi everyone :)(Tue, 07 May 2013 19:58:12 +0100)
@CharOTReilly good evening #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:58:13 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 just about! Was tough but I am here. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:58:21 +0100)
@BPDFFS RT @clissa89 : #occhat in 5 minutes: boredom. Has anyone been able to tear themselves away from the gorgeous sunshine and come back inside? #OTuesday (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:58:32 +0100)
@clissa89 Hi everyone! Having internet trouble today so please bear with me if I’m a bit slow in replying #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:59:03 +0100)
@clissa89 Hi @charOTreilly @nnikki_duffy @helen_otuk @BPDFFS @kirstyes πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:59:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 that is ok we will not assume you are bored with us… he he #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 19:59:40 +0100)
@clissa89 According to my clock, it’s #occhat time! How’s everyone’s #OTuesday been so far? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:00:10 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @Nnikki_Duffy @CharOTReilly @Helen_otuk @clissa89 Evening. #occhat is happy to have you all.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:00:24 +0100)
@clissa89 @Helen_otuk teehee πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:00:28 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 good… looking forward to end of this week- end of year party on a boat! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:01:10 +0100)
@clissa89 My glamorous assistant for the night is @kirstyes – thank you in advance!!! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:01:15 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 that end of party is probably as anti-thesis for today’s topic. πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:01:31 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 hii! #otuesday so far so good, final VIVAs issued today so been working on that today. Hows your day? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:01:56 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT wow that sounds amazing!! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:02:02 +0100)
@clissa89 @CharOTReilly ooh what’s the topic? I’ve had a bit of a rough day but nice evening πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:02:36 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @clissa89 shucks. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:03:13 +0100)
@clissa89 Out of curiosity… has anyone here never experienced boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:04:06 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 well hope #occhat will improve your day. #cyberhugs I have a gentleman, 43 he loves saxophone & kyaking, has RA & depression(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:04:33 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 Bored a lot of times- too much time in solitude in my liking. 😦 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:05:18 +0100)
@clissa89 For those of you who have experienced boredom – what has your experience been like? When was the last time you felt bored? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:05:47 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @clissa89 : Out of curiosity… has anyone here never experienced boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:06:02 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT so you are more likely to feel bored if you are alone? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:06:54 +0100)
@clissa89 @CharOTReilly thank you πŸ™‚ that sounds like a really interesting case study! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:07 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk Very rarely bored, too much to do! When I am bored I think I feel frustrated.
#occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:07 +0100)
@BPDFFS @clissa89 yes all the time #occhat it’s a bad place to be for me, I need to keep busy to distract(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:08 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 bored in traffic on my way home from the library this afternoon #veryboring , #lackofstimulation #lackofmeaningfulness #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:18 +0100)
@pd2ot Hello #occhat -ers, sorry I’m late – I was at a lovely BBQ :-)(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:28 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 yes… because there were times I wish I have a girlfriend in my life. It’d have been more fulfilling #lifeasasingleguy #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:45 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat I’m not entirely sure what boredom is but yet I’ve said I feel bored. Usually means I have too much to do but don’t want doany of it(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:07:55 +0100)
@clissa89 @BPDFFS what kinds of situations do you feel bored in? I do that too – keep busy! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:08:04 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @robbrooks_uk : Very rarely bored, too much to do! When I am bored I think I feel frustrated.
#occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:08:09 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 @BillWongOT I do not think I have every experienced boredom when alone. Possibly when doing tedious task? But not sure??? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:08:13 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot we’re honoured that you came in for us! πŸ™‚ glad you had a nice BBQ. What situations do you feel bored in? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:08:31 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @clissa89 I wonder if you have experienced a boring lecturer in your uni days? That also counts, right? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:08:53 +0100)
@CharOTReilly RT @kirstyes : #occhat I’m not entirely sure what boredom is but yet I’ve said I feel bored. Usually means I have too much to do but don’t want doany of it(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:09:16 +0100)
@clissa89 @robbrooks_uk I’m the same – often too busy to feel bored! But definitely makes me frustrated when I am #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:09:16 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @robbrooks_uk #occhat similar but when I’m bored I think I’m more likely overwhelmed then I can’t be bothered to engage.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:09:33 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk I get bored when doing house work – not stimulating enough. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:09:45 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes someone mentioned this to me earlier – thought that boredom was maybe around some sort of avoidance? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:09:47 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 for me I get bored within occupations that don’t challenge me enough. While I always keep busy I still get bored… #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:10:25 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT @helen_otuk oh yes! (sorry lecturers) my most common boredom-inducing situation: lectures etc where I can’t leave #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:10:25 +0100)
@darthknitty #occhat I’ve been bored recently as stuck in bed with a bad back. Couldn’t sit up to knit 😦 @clissa89 (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:10:29 +0100)
@BillWongOT When I have a boring lecturer, I sometimes will go online and multi-task. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:10:39 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 Yes, maybe, often accompanied by guilt #occhat -Need to just do what I want in those situations.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:10:59 +0100)
@Helen_otuk ok, how do we define boredom? I can get bored of doing a specific tedious task… but I then tend to utilise time to ponder stuff #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:03 +0100)
@clissa89 @Nnikki_Duffy can you expand on the overwhelmed point? what makes you overwhelmed? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:05 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @robbrooks_uk i agree, seems to be a link between #boredom and #lackofstimulation #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:09 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 I got bored during 1st year at uni. I’m now bored with salsa. It’s a bit exhausting always having to keep the interest up! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:13 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @kirstyes that will be the case if I find a uni topic disengaging. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:18 +0100)
@BPDFFS @clissa89 lots of situations like today in a meeting I lose interest very quickly, I need constant mental stimulation or I get bored #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:43 +0100)
@clissa89 @darthknitty that must have been awful 😦 I get bored too when ill/resting!! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:11:59 +0100)
@pd2ot @BPDFFS can definitely relate to that #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:12:28 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT I admit I did this too 😦 I withdraw if I’m bored – sometimes into a task or sometimes somewhere in my head #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:12:32 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @Helen_otuk As now being on “the other side of the fence” as guest lecturer, if I don’t hear laughters, I know I’m boring. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:12:35 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @clissa89 @BillWongOT Yes so etching about lack of challenge, or too much challenge? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:12:35 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @pd2ot @clissa89 keeping engaged for me, does require a lot of energy and interest, can be challenging #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:12:46 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot do you get bored after a period of time elapses and then need a change? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:13:07 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk Is boredom a form of occupational deprivation? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:13:32 +0100)
@clissa89 @BPDFFS oh yes meetings….. Yawn!! 😦 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:13:32 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 yes… actually that’s why I made some tweets in my OTD classes this year (honestly admitting the truth). #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:13:36 +0100)
@sophiewearing I tend to find I’m bored when I’m under stimulated,if something isn’t pitched at the right level,or its the wrong activity @clissa89 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:07 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @clissa89 #occhat to much stuff to do, then I can shut down a little.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:08 +0100)
@clissa89 @robbrooks_uk well that’s a whole debate in itself! what do you think? (and everyone else?) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:12 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 yes.. Mainly due to feeling restricted by other things and having nothing to do. Not for a long time though #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:35 +0100)
@clissa89 I felt really guilty in lectures – and sorry for lecturers – when I disengaged from the session #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:49 +0100)
@pd2ot @CharOTReilly yep, I s’times find mindfulness helps me tolerate the lower energy/interest stuff -possibly could invest more in that #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:50 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes think so, I can get bored of a task but if I utilise time to ponder or think things through then not bored? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:50 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat Good evening @michael_iwama , great to have you at #occhat @clissa89 (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:51 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @clissa89 #occhat I think the word ‘boredom’ can be interpreted different depending on ur experience of it.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:14:59 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @pd2ot @clissa89 But that’s why I LOVE being able to tweet as I attend OT conferences nowadays- less boredom! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:06 +0100)
@claireOT Hello #occhat ! Just turning up to say that I find recovery/existence with chronic illness can be boring… #sensorysensitivity (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:08 +0100)
@clissa89 @GillyGorry what kinds of things restrict? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:20 +0100)
@Keeper85 #occhat omg hello I actually got up early enough!!(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:20 +0100)
@sophiewearing So when barriers get in the way of engagement? @darthknitty @clissa89 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:24 +0100)
@clissa89 @Nnikki_Duffy I agree – we probably have different experiences and definitions of boredom! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:36 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @sophiewearing I agree that when the task demands do not meet my needs I can get bored #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:15:49 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot I’m really interested in this idea – spotted in http://t.co/5BwctRcXxY #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:04 +0100)
@claireOT Not being able to read, or write, or even watch TV when I’m at my worst means it’s hard to relieve boredom #sensorysensitivity #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:06 +0100)
@pd2ot @BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @clissa89 #occhat Good point, I’ve yet to experience that. I’m fine with lectures I really enjoy though(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:10 +0100)
@BillWongOT @robbrooks_uk good question. I think in a sense it is. I don’t go out much cuz there r some sports that r boring when engaged alone. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:24 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot @CharOTreilly I’m often very un-mindful (and irritated!!) when bored 😦 need to work on this. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:28 +0100)
@clissa89 @Keeper85 wow that’s impressive!! which situations do you get bored in? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:47 +0100)
@GillyGorry @BillWongOT I always tried to sit near the front to keep focus. Can be hard though #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:16:51 +0100)
@claireOT Talking to ppl, going out, crafting, even listening to music can all be too much #sensorysensitivity #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:00 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @BillWongOT @pd2ot @clissa89 yes a great perk of #socialmedia #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:05 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @robbrooks_uk : Is boredom a form of occupational deprivation? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:08 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 that’s it. I notice I go through cycles of interest in things #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:15 +0100)
@Keeper85 #occhat I usually look at boredom from a sensory needs perspective and try and adjust accordingly(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:23 +0100)
@BillWongOT @GillyGorry I sit at the back- that way people won’t notice as much. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:26 +0100)
@clissa89 Has everyone seen my blog post on boredom? http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL has some different theories #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:17:50 +0100)
@claireOT If anyone has any good ways to relieve boredom that can be done in a quiet, dark room, I’m looking for tips! #sensorysensitivity #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:04 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 when I didn’t feel like I had control to do things I wanted. Or something prevented #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:09 +0100)
@clissa89 @Keeper85 can you give an example from your own life? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:10 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @robbrooks_uk @sophiewearing #occhat yet sometimes u can find urself completely engaged in a very simple task.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:14 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 @pd2ot yea I would agree, boredom for me can turn to irritation and a bad mood. #occhat need to be more mindful #oftenwhenalone (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:19 +0100)
@BPDFFS RT @clissa89 : Has everyone seen my blog post on boredom? http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL has some different theories #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:36 +0100)
@Keeper85 @clissa89 lots lol I have a tendancy to get bored easily in my work. Constantly need a new exciting challenge #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:36 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @claireOT : If anyone has any good ways to relieve boredom that can be done in a quiet, dark room, Im looking for tips! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:37 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @pd2ot @clissa89 too bad I don’t attend many talks- too many poster sessions! Hard to tweet when I’ve to move and see. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:18:58 +0100)
@clissa89 @Nnikki_Duffy @robbrooks_uk @sophiewearing interesting point – so what’s the difference? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:00 +0100)
@CharOTReilly thats fab, @Keeper85 you are addressing your own OT needs! #occhat do you have an example?(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:16 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 abstract looks fab – I’ll definitely read that one πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:17 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @CharOTReilly : @clissa89 @pd2ot yea I would agree, boredom for me can turn to irritation and a bad mood. #occhat need to be more mindful #oftenwhenalone (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:19 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @clissa89 @pd2ot agreed! Me too! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @clissa89 : Has everyone seen my blog post on boredom? http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL has some different theories #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:46 +0100)
@claireOT Great post by @clissa89 about Boredom. #occhat http://t.co/gUIUlj7zNY (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:49 +0100)
@GillyGorry RT @clissa89 : Has everyone seen my blog post on boredom? http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL has some different theories #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:19:52 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk Has anyone done the boredom proneness scale? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:00 +0100)
@clissa89 If I’m bored & can’t leave/change the task (e.g. when in a lecture) – I think the irritation shows on my face! 😦 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:01 +0100)
@pd2ot RT @claireOT : Great post by @clissa89 about Boredom. #occhat http://t.co/x5AI81D9Mo (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:09 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat ? @robbrooks_uk : Is boredom a form of occupational deprivation? #occhat ? good question, welcome to #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:13 +0100)
@Keeper85 #occhat I start a job, get to learn it, start some quality improvement, finish that, get bored. I love change, keeps me pumped(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:16 +0100)
@BillWongOT @claireOT tried to be aware of that on Pinterest, but haven’t seen any good ones. 😦 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:23 +0100)
@claireOT @Tchamp13 absolutely! I’m with Whiteford on this one! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:24 +0100)
@BPDFFS @claireOT I think you can get less bright screens for your computer not sure of technical jargon #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:24 +0100)
@clissa89 @robbrooks_uk I’ve heard of it, but not tried it yet! How boredom-prone did you come out as? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:38 +0100)
@clissa89 If some people are more prone to boredom than others – where do you fall on the spectrum? Easily bored or not? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:20:58 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @michael_iwama @clissa89 @otalk Ha love it. Yes we are on an #occhat Occupational Science week chat.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:00 +0100)
@pd2ot Sometimes I wonder about my boredom being a self-fulfilling prophecy ‘I can’t keep this up, so I’ll disengage’ stylee – #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:21 +0100)
@claireOT @LeggeAngie having a little indulgence in self-pity. Yes, it is awful, and boring sometimes, to be so poorly #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:23 +0100)
@clissa89 @Keeper85 is this linked to a “what type of worker are you?” thing? *forgets the name of the test* #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:29 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 @Nnikki_Duffy @robbrooks_uk @sophiewearingif If something is difficult, will become bored & procastinate w/ simpler task #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:30 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 if I am bored, I would yawn, sleep, or go online (if I can hide behind my laptop). #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:36 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @pd2ot : Sometimes I wonder about my boredom being a self-fulfilling prophecy ‘I can’t keep this up, so I’ll disengage’ stylee – #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT @pd2ot I have that, too. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:57 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot that’s really interesting – I need to think about that a bit more! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:21:59 +0100)
@Tchamp13 #occhat for me occ deprivation = boredom but how one defines/comes to that feeling is very indiv.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:20 +0100)
@pd2ot I also know the boredom experienced can lead to lowered mood and getting locked in a cycle of occupations that maintain boredom #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:32 +0100)
@Keeper85 @CharOTReilly like meetings and stuff I know I zone out sitting still so I bring fidgets and almonds etc #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:34 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT it must be! 😦 indulge away! boredom is really uncomfortable, esp if it’s difficult to change #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:36 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @robbrooks_uk : Has anyone done the boredom proneness scale? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:37 +0100)
@claireOT @BPDFFS the fact I can turn the brightness of my I pad screen down is how I stay connected during these times #sensorysensitivity #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:38 +0100)
@claireOT ? @AishaJemima : @claireOT meditate and day dream of betrer days! I do it all the time / especially when my lil sis calls me!? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Tchamp13 agreed. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:22:55 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 physical. Time. Other commitments. Fear. Anxiety. I think lots of thinks have the ability to restrict #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:23:14 +0100)
@pd2ot @BillWongOT @clissa89 I think I need to ponder it more, too. Feels like quite a complicated process of fear/avoidance reaction #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:23:23 +0100)
@claireOT @AishaJemima yes, daydreaming, meditating and mindful breathing can be really helpful #occhat #sensorysensitivity (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:23:25 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot can you elaborate on occupations that maintain boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:23:45 +0100)
@BillWongOT just throwing a thought- I wonder since we’ve many “time killing devices”, are we more bored easily if we r not around them? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:23:46 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @Tchamp13 : #occhat for me occ deprivation = boredom but how one defines/comes to that feeling is very indiv.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:23:54 +0100)
@Keeper85 @clissa89 I couldn’t honestly feel u #occhat but I’d say that sounds about right….I just need to be working on something new and exciting(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:03 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT I do a lot of daydreaming…. trying to do more mindfulness! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:09 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @Keeper85 thats great- good tactic, thanks for sharing #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:15 +0100)
@Keeper85 RT @Tchamp13 : #occhat for me occ deprivation = boredom but how one defines/comes to that feeling is very indiv.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:25 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT are you saying that we’re used to a lot of stimulation? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:27 +0100)
@claireOT @LeggeAngie thanks! I share feelings like that here because I’m a whole person: I know I don’t present that face to the world IRL #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:30 +0100)
@kirstyes I wonder if rather than being bored I am less likely to achieve flow?! #occhat or not being mindful or present in activities.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:40 +0100)
@BPDFFS ? @Stuey_James : @clissa89 @BPDFFS I once heard ‘boredom’ described as ‘rage spread thin’. Very apt for me.? Me too #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:24:59 +0100)
@clissa89 Some of us are starting to talk about strategies to cope with/overcome boredom – what do you do? What works? Doesn’t? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:05 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @clissa89 What is it do you think that is disengaging? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:08 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 sometimes I feel I have the option to make a change – and don’t. Perhaps I could increase interest/challenge #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:18 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 you can say that partly… since a lot of people carrying a smartphone, ipad, or similar stuff nowadays to kill time. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:19 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes in the article I posted, boredom and flow are seen as opposite ends of a spectrum #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:23 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @clissa89 : Some of us are starting to talk about strategies to cope with/overcome boredom – what do you do? What works? Doesn’t? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:35 +0100)
@clissa89 @BPDFFS that’s a really interesting quote! – like it! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:38 +0100)
@sophiewearing Agreed. When I can’t do anything to control or solve the boredom I get restless, irritated or switch off @clissa89 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:43 +0100)
@claireOT @pluminmouth thanks! My kids are wonderful, but I don’t get to see ppl often anymore: just takes too much recovery #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:46 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @kirstyes Liking the idea of boredom being not achieving occupational flow #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:52 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @clissa89 sometimes the lecturer’s voice (if it’s monotone like), sometimes it’s the topic, sometimes it’s a combination. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:56 +0100)
@GillyGorry @BillWongOT haha so you plan for boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:25:59 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 for me, maintaining engagement in ‘boring occupations’ feels self-defeating and I’ll choose to do that. Not always though #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:03 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot do you get to a point where you’ve excelled challenge-wise and have nowhere further to go? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:13 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree with this totally! RT @clissa89 : @kirstyes in the article I posted, boredom and flow are seen as opposite ends of a spectrum #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:15 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @BPDFFS : ? @Stuey_James : @clissa89 @BPDFFS I once heard ‘boredom’ described as ‘rage spread thin’. Very apt for me.? Me too #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:16 +0100)
@Keeper85 RT @Tchamp13 : @Keeper85 tends to b my exper as primarily a sensory seeking type of gal #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:28 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @Stuey_James @clissa89 @BPDFFS Thanks for contributing. We are chatting about boredom using #occhat if you’d like to join.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:32 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT I’m very aware that I get my phone out the minute I’m bored! Facebook. Twitter. Texts… #confessions #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:39 +0100)
@claireOT @LeggeAngie I love sci-Fi! I find audiobooks easier to cope with than visual stimuli when I have #sensorysensitivity though #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:42 +0100)
@BPDFFS @claireOT that sounds really hard for you right now* virtual hugs * it’s good you can stay connected : ) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:50 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 having a break, especially in fresh air, then returning to it can clear my mind so more focused and less bored during task #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:26:55 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @BillWongOT I also wonder if we are now more prone to boredom then generations past? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:01 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 aaand(!) sometimes occupations are boring but necessary, but I do wonder if being more mindful would help #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:01 +0100)
@claireOT RT @clissa89 : Some of us are starting to talk about strategies to cope with/overcome boredom – what do you do? What works? Doesn’t? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:07 +0100)
@BillWongOT @GillyGorry nope… I never planned for it… lol! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:13 +0100)
@Keeper85 RT @clissa89 : @BillWongOT I’m very aware that I get my phone out the minute I’m bored! Facebook. Twitter. Texts… #confessions #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:15 +0100)
@claireOT RT @Tchamp13 : #occhat for me occ deprivation = boredom but how one defines/comes to that feeling is very indiv.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:20 +0100)
@Keeper85 @clissa89 @BillWongOT I hear ya! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:24 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 Since I got my iPhone 1.5 years ago, I fall into this habit. 😦 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:50 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot did you say you use mindfulness when bored? how effective have you found it? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:51 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @Keeper85 @Tchamp13 Greta to have you bth here #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:54 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 I plan my time. Pomodoro is great. And I use art to prevent boredom now. Art has saved my sanity #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:54 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 sometimes it’s about having nowhere to go that I want to go. Re salsa: I don’t like what I’ve seen of the next level #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:10 +0100)
@Tchamp13 @Helen_otuk #occhat I’m in airport waiting…=bored 2 me. So I am dialed in 2 #occhat ! ?(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Nnikki_Duffy for what ways? Is it because of our lifestyles? society demands? etc. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:23 +0100)
@pd2ot RT @Tchamp13 : #occhat for me occ deprivation = boredom but how one defines/comes to that feeling is very indiv.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:31 +0100)
@GillyGorry RT @Keeper85 : #occhat I start a job, get to learn it, start some quality improvement, finish that, get bored. I love change, keeps me pumped(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:40 +0100)
@Helen_otuk My strategies vary depending upon the situation I am bored with. If I can switch I will. If restricted adopt alternate strategies #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:44 +0100)
@Keeper85 #occhat I find “boring” occupations to be ones that a person finds little value in, whether they are purposeful or not.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:45 +0100)
@GillyGorry RT @OTalk_Occhat : ? @robbrooks_uk : Is boredom a form of occupational deprivation? #occhat ? good question, welcome to #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:48 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @clissa89 for me are extra trips to the restroom. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:28:49 +0100)
@clissa89 @Tchamp13 Love it! Welcome. How do you cope with/overcome boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:03 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @BillWongOT @clissa89 I never just sit anymore. At break or que or pause during my day I take out my phone,is it boredom or a habit? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:07 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @Tchamp13 : @Helen_otuk #occhat Im in airport waiting…=bored 2 me. So I am dialed in 2 #occhat ! ? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:12 +0100)
@GillyGorry @OTalk_Occhat @robbrooks_uk yes. I think so. At least occ deprivation. Leads to boredom for me.. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:20 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Tchamp13 excellent strategy! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:27 +0100)
@claireOT I dealt with occupational deprivation and boredom in my parenting with a disability presentation for #24OTvx #occhat http://t.co/7mUy8qXiBC (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:34 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 I try to (hanging out laundry is my nemesis and it helps a lot). Often my boredom is linked to anger and I find (1/2) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:40 +0100)
@clissa89 “Switch off” is my default strategy for boredom but leaves me feeling frustrated & disappointed #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:49 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @clissa89 I think it could be a habit. I say that because nowadays I have my iPhone, I check my emails more frequently #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:29:53 +0100)
@Keeper85 #occhat I know it’s difficult for me to complete a purposeful activity that has not meaning for me. E.g. Moping :-s(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:03 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @Helen_otuk @ @robbrooks_uk
yes this fits then. Often happens in open plan office where can’t access flow #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:06 +0100)
@SherieneHannah @clissa89 sounds silly but I cant break my boredom I’m constantly bored driving me mad when see others enjoying things and I’m bored #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:11 +0100)
@Tchamp13 RT @GillyGorry : @clissa89 I plan my time. Pomodoro is great. And I use art to prevent boredom now. Art has saved my sanity #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:11 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 (2/2) it hard to access mindfulness, but suspect it could be very helpful #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:14 +0100)
@GillyGorry @BillWongOT but you sit t the back in anticipation of boredom? So u can use your coping strategy, SocMe ? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @clissa89 and just to note… I was a once/twice a day email checker before, now I am responding whenever I can. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:34 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot ugh I’m with you on the hanging out laundry thing!!! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:39 +0100)
@GillyGorry RT @Keeper85 : #occhat I find “boring” occupations to be ones that a person finds little value in, whether they are purposeful or not.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:43 +0100)
@sophiewearing This is an interesting point reflective of nowadays.Are we too easily bored as a generation? @clissa89 @BillWongOT #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:30:51 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat I’m less likely to be bored in the early hours because that’s when I ‘hit my engagement stride'(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:31:03 +0100)
@clissa89 @SherieneHannah it’s horrible when you’re caught in a trap of boredom! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:31:13 +0100)
@BillWongOT @GillyGorry well… I don’t want to be caught doing it in classrooms that easily. :p #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:31:19 +0100)
@pd2ot @Helen_otuk I like this. What sort of strategies do you use? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:31:34 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @sophiewearing I worked in CAMHS and young people were always saying they were bored #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:31:50 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 can definitely relate #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:05 +0100)
@BillWongOT @sophiewearing @clissa89 If u ask me, I think it’s our lifestyle. Some of us in this generation don’t have the patience to wait. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:26 +0100)
@Keeper85 @SherieneHannah @clissa89 what ur interest in certain activities changed recently or are u just not getting to do them? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:33 +0100)
@Tchamp13 RT @clissa89 : @BillWongOT I’m very aware that I get my phone out the minute I’m bored! Facebook. Twitter. Texts… #confessions #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:49 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 I find cleaning uninteresting..meaning/ so have to do it. Not sure I would call it boredom inducing..Boredom is worse 4me #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:49 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk our occupational brains are just not wired for boredom! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:32:51 +0100)
@claireOT @pluminmouth absolutely! They’re lifesavers: so much easier than phone or IRL convos for me when I’m like this! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:09 +0100)
@Keeper85 @sophiewearing @clissa89 @BillWongOT yes…we have 140chr attention span lol #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:10 +0100)
@clissa89 If you were in a situation where there was a long silence (& nothing to do) – how would you cope? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:32 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @robbrooks_uk : our occupational brains are just not wired for boredom! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:34 +0100)
@claireOT ? @pluminmouth : Media / technology / social networks must play a massive part in connecting with the world 4u? <yes! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:36 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @pd2ot once spent a whole ‘talk’ writing feedback about how the session did not stimulate. Quoted all the ‘boring’ stuff. #occhat 1/2(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:44 +0100)
@kirstyes @sophiewearing very possibly. Less likely to stick with something challenging maybe. Other occupations too accessible #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:33:59 +0100)
@pd2ot When I was in the TC we had a psych student propose a study about boredom. OT felt noone was bored. I’m not sure – we all kept busy #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:07 +0100)
@clissa89 @GillyGorry @keeper85 so what makes the difference between uninteresting and boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:17 +0100)
@claireOT @michael_iwama we are honoured to have you join! It’s #occhat this week, all about boredom @clissa89 @OTalk_Occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:32 +0100)
@Tchamp13 @Helen_otuk #occhat I am usually seeing clients so don’t typically get to join in! Bonus! ??(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Keeper85 @sophiewearing @clissa89 I wonder if this is why #occhat , #otalk , #otalk2us , and #anzotalk are so successful. :)(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:43 +0100)
@kirstyes @Keeper85 how can we make moping more meaningful for you (and me)? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:52 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @pd2ot 2/2 I felt that I was doing it for the good of future attendees, so did not feel bored. also giving alternate recommendations #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:52 +0100)
@clissa89 @Helen_otuk @pd2ot oops… I did this last week… (at least, I mentally rehearsed my feedback – made me more irritated) 😦 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:34:56 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @claireOT : I dealt with occupational deprivation and boredom in my parenting with a disability presentation for #24OTvx #occhat http://t.co/7mUy8qXiBC (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:35:07 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @claireOT @pluminmouth maybe fast technology makes us bored?
#occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:35:12 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot I reckon it’s possible to be bored and busy at the same time. What do you think? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:35:27 +0100)
@pd2ot I also experienced self-defeating behaviours as a way to prevent boredom. My life was devoid of meaningful occupations #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:35:36 +0100)
@kirstyes @GillyGorry @robbrooks_uk But often I have too much to do, so not deprived as such. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:35:58 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @pd2ot : I also experienced self-defeating behaviours as a way to prevent boredom. My life was devoid of meaningful occupations #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:03 +0100)
@sophiewearing @Keeper85 @clissa89 @BillWongOT almost like due to technological advances we feel the need to fill thAt void rather than embrace it #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:04 +0100)
@claireOT Wow. @michael_iwama has made my #otuesday by joining in #occhat ! #totalOThero #sensei (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:07 +0100)
@Keeper85 @clissa89 @GillyGorry boredom seems to come with neurovegatative symptoms. Low energy, low motivation, unable to concentrate #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:11 +0100)
@BillWongOT @francescaabrown I agree- I see that in myself since I started OT school- from having my own laptop, to now my own iPhone. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:15 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot good point – even occupations that aren’t seen as health-promoting can serve a purpose/be meaningful? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:34 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 absolutely (character limit prevented profound statement about being busy not meaning we weren’t bored/dissatisfied) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:36:45 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT @michael_iwama hello michael! πŸ™‚ is your account protected? I’ve not seen any tweets #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:02 +0100)
@Keeper85 @kirstyes I don’t know if that’s possible haha…maybe u need a Harry Potter broom mop?? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:04 +0100)
@Tchamp13 @clissa89 #occhat I tend to keep busy one way or another; lots of projects, writing, read, family time….(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:05 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 @pd2ot Yes i could have been bored, but seeking alternate methods to suggest made me think and also evidence my feedback #Occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:12 +0100)
@clissa89 @sophiewearing @keeper85 @BillWongOT I think this is a really important point #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:29 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 Definitely. And self-defeating occs provided me with interest and challenge (among other things) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:40 +0100)
@BillWongOT @sophiewearing @Keeper85 @clissa89 turn on “do not disturb” option on my iPhone if I’m in a situation I can’t multitask #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:37:47 +0100)
@Keeper85 #occhat I think tech feeds our need for instant gratification which probably had evolved us into getting bored more quickly(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:06 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @clissa89 I make people do this as an example of what it might be like sitting in a care home. Staff find it really difficult. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:06 +0100)
@kirstyes @Keeper85 Oooh that would probably work for me #occhat (At least one time).(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:20 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 @Helen_otuk Ah yes, can relate to Clarissa’s experience – might try yours next time Helen! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:20 +0100)
@clissa89 Should occupational therapists address boredom? Do you? #occupationaltherapy #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:36 +0100)
@sophiewearing @clissa89 @Keeper85 @BillWongOT agreed.Especially to understand our clients and their boredom/reducing boredom. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:38 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @pd2ot @clissa89 feeling challenged for me helps to maintain attention and decrease boredom #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:41 +0100)
@pocketot Twiddling thumbs and serial opposition tasks would deal w/ fm coordination AND boredom! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:38:58 +0100)
@clissa89 @Keeper85 this is certainly true for me. though before tech think I probably used other strategies! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:10 +0100)
@BillWongOT @sophiewearing @clissa89 @Keeper85 but if we are not good examples, how can we expect our clients to follow? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:21 +0100)
@pd2ot @Keeper85 Definitely. I find it hard to ‘just watch TV’ without simultaneously engaging in SM. Again, I feel I could be more mindful #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:27 +0100)
@claireOT ? @Minervabythesea : Instead of telling myself “I am bored” thinking “what shall I do now?” & doing what comes to mind works for me.? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:31 +0100)
@clissa89 @Nnikki_Duffy it can be really difficult. I’ve experienced this a few times recently – interesting how different people respond #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:40 +0100)
@Tchamp13 RT @claireOT : I dealt with occupational deprivation and boredom in my parenting with a disability presentation for #24OTvx #occhat http://t.co/7mUy8qXiBC (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:47 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 if its is impacting an individuals engagement in their meaningful occupations or health/wellbeing yes!! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:57 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CharOTReilly @pd2ot @clissa89 as long as it is a “just right challenge”, IMO. Too challenging sometimes can mean disengagement. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:39:57 +0100)
@claireOT ? @robbrooks_uk : @claireOT @pluminmouth maybe fast technology makes us bored?
#occhat ? <there’s a phd in here for someone! ;-)(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:03 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @Keeper85 : #occhat I think tech feeds our need for instant gratification which probably had evolved us into getting bored more quickly(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:10 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT @minervabythesea ooh I like this! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:19 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk OTs should address boredom in prisons and care homes #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:21 +0100)
@Tchamp13 RT @Keeper85 : #occhat I think tech feeds our need for instant gratification which probably had evolved us into getting bored more quickly(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @michael_iwama #OTalk (OT practice topics) and #occhat (Occ science) from UK alternate on a Tuesday 8pm UK time. This week #occhat .(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:25 +0100)
@BillWongOT @pd2ot @Keeper85 for me that will be turning on music while engaging in SM. doing that now! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:38 +0100)
@Keeper85 @pd2ot I hear ya :-s #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:40 +0100)
@sophiewearing @francescaabrown : I do think partly our lifestyles and technology have a role to play in the type of boredom we experience” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:41 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot @keeper85 oops. I do this too. multitask a lot but trying more mindful engagement #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:46 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @clissa89 : Should occupational therapists address boredom? Do you? #occupationaltherapy #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:49 +0100)
@Minervabythesea @clissa89 @claireOT thanks for adding forgotten hash tag! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:56 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @BillWongOT @pd2ot @clissa89 yes good point Bill #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:40:59 +0100)
@clissa89 @robbrooks_uk can you elaborate? why? how? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:41:10 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 @keeper85 I think boredom is more than being uninterested.. Hard to explain. But I feel like I have experienced both #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:41:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @robbrooks_uk : OTs should address boredom in prisons and care homes #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:41:16 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 Yes, so long as it links to dissatisfaction with occupations engaged in. Linking to building structure.routines #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:41:21 +0100)
@pd2ot @BillWongOT very valid point #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:41:39 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat ? @Minervabythesea :Instead of telling myself “I am bored” thinking “what shall I do now?” and doing what comes to mind works for me.? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:42:12 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @clissa89 OT as a health promotion intervention. Can you die from boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:42:38 +0100)
@claireOT For @charl885 and other new Tweeters, here you go, my How to Twitter post #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:42:44 +0100)
@Keeper85 @GillyGorry @clissa89 I think from an occ science veiw (depending on ur definition of both) they would probably be viewed similarly #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:42:58 +0100)
@clissa89 @GillyGorry I agree that there is a distinction – just difficult to unpick! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:42:59 +0100)
@clissa89 @robbrooks_uk I would argue yes. e.g. when boredom leads to anti-social/”unhealthy” occupations #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:43:33 +0100)
@sophiewearing Im so bad at it!automatically going2my phone if sat somewhere waiting.need to use my mindfulness more in such situs #occhat @francescaabrown (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:43:33 +0100)
@Minervabythesea When you have space in your mind, it can be used for so many creative things but it can take time to ‘tune in’ so allow that time #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:43:38 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @pd2ot @clissa89 yes I have to have the alternate thoughts. Make recommendations etc therefore not over focussed on the boring stuff #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:43:46 +0100)
@Keeper85 @clissa89 I think we address it when lookin into occupations that are valued and important to the client….so indirectly yea #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:43:55 +0100)
@claireOT I’m just thinking about Maslow’s hierarchy, and how boredom might indicate barriers to advancing up it. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:44:19 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT I’m liking your thinking…. care to share any more? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:44:50 +0100)
@GillyGorry @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk maybe deprived of meaningful stuff…. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:44:52 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @robbrooks_uk yes… I believe that’s why some youths might lock themselves in their rooms and play Internet games 1/2 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:44:58 +0100)
@sophiewearing Agree,I think u can be interested in a task but bored still. @GillyGorry @clissa89 @Keeper85 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:11 +0100)
@claireOT I wrote about Maslow’s hierarchy in social media use last year, might be interesting if you’re wondering what SoMe can do #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:16 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @robbrooks_uk and the youths I am talking about are those who eat, breathe, and sleep with these games. 2/2 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:19 +0100)
@Keeper85 @robbrooks_uk @clissa89 I sense an interesting conf presentation there πŸ˜‰ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:21 +0100)
@Dai2584 I quite like doing nothing.why do we need to be doing someting all the time #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:31 +0100)
@pd2ot I’m going to slope off early #occhat ers. Great chat – thanks all – I look forward to catching up on the end :)(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:42 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT @robbrooks_uk if I was ever really bored & had a lot of time to kill – The Sims worked wonders! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:48 +0100)
@Tchamp13 RT @claireOT : @AishaJemima yes, daydreaming, meditating and mindful breathing can be really helpful #occhat #sensorysensitivity (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:45:52 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @clissa89 yeah. I think it is also a subjective experience. One mans boredom in another mans disinterest #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:46:18 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat It seems like there’s some challenge with identifying exactly what boredom is.I’m going to try and monitor when I feel ‘bored’ &why(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:46:19 +0100)
@clissa89 @Dai2584 this is a really interesting point. Recently explored “being” more and “doing” less #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:46:20 +0100)
@claireOT . @clissa89 I’m wondering if boredom might operate as a mechanism to drive us forward, to explore alternative ways to meet our needs #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:46:34 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot thanks for joining us – you’ve made some really interesting points that need further pondering on my part! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:46:35 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @Dai2584 Is doing nothing the same as being bored? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:46:40 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes it is a challenge – I struggled to even find a comprehensive definition! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:01 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Good question? Not as primary cause, but as a result maybe? d MT @robbrooks_uk : Can you die from boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:13 +0100)
@Keeper85 @GillyGorry @clissa89 everything in OT should be subjective. That’s the nature f working with people #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:34 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT I’m sure there’s some research on this – boredom as motivator (cited in the Martin et al article) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:40 +0100)
@kirstyes @GillyGorry @robbrooks_uk I don’t know. I can still get bored even when I have meaningful stuff to do. When I don’t have energy #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:44 +0100)
@Tchamp13 #occhat lifestyles r so packed full and fast paced… Contributes to constant hyperarousal/neuro threshold changes(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:50 +0100)
@claireOT @quirkygrump absolutely, but maybe it’s a mechanism to drive us to seek alternative routes to self-actualisation? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:47:51 +0100)
@claireOT ? @quirkygrump : @claireOT like being under occupied and without purpose & meaning? not the route to self-actualisation me thinks? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:48:01 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @robbrooks_uk @Dai2584 I do not think so, I often am not ‘doing’ physically. But mental stimulation prevents boredom maybe? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:48:12 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @Helen_otuk totally agree #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:48:20 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @claireOT @clissa89 i love this, definatley the appreciative inquiry look at bordeom RT “used as a mechanism to drive us forward” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:48:21 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @claireOT : I’m just thinking about Maslow’s hierarchy, and how boredom might indicate barriers to advancing up it. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:48:25 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 yes.Hard to unpick.difficult to explain. I know when I feel bored. For me its the worst thing & itry hard not to go there #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:48:57 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @Tchamp13 : #occhat lifestyles r so packed full and fast paced… Contributes to constant hyperarousal/neuro threshold changes(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:49:00 +0100)
@claireOT ? @Minervabythesea : We live in a world full of ‘interference’ with our natural thoughts and imagination,need to tune out deliberately” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:49:22 +0100)
@Keeper85 RT @Tchamp13 : #occhat lifestyles r so packed full and fast paced… Contributes to constant hyperarousal/neuro threshold changes(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:49:24 +0100)
@Tchamp13 @clissa89 @kirstyes #occhat even boredom is a dynamic topic! ;0)(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:49:39 +0100)
@quirkygrump @claireOT but folk need signposting – also permission to try out new ventures #occhat . I use poetry to increase insight into creatiivty(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:01 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @Tchamp13 : @clissa89 @kirstyes #occhat even boredom is a dynamic topic! ;0) #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:08 +0100)
@GillyGorry @sophiewearing @clissa89 @keeper85 yes. Maybe the boredom come from the significant lack of preferred stimulus ? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:15 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Tchamp13 : @clissa89 @kirstyes #occhat even boredom is a dynamic topic! ;0)(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:23 +0100)
@claireOT MT? @Minervabythesea : for that space to open up. For me, being deaf has enabled the tuning out.? #occhat <absolutely, unexpected consequences(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:35 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @robbrooks_uk That’s what I really meant though. http://t.co/jjelX6rXb6 #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:40 +0100)
@Tchamp13 RT @Keeper85 : @GillyGorry @clissa89 everything in OT should be subjective. That’s the nature f working with people #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:40 +0100)
@Keeper85 @Helen_otuk @robbrooks_uk @Dai2584 something a LOT of OTs seem to overlook! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:46 +0100)
@CommuneOT @robbrooks_uk @Dai2584 Hello all! Just being/stillness is not boring at all! I find mindfulness reduces stress and helps learning #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:50:52 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @clissa89 yes. But that what makes it hard to define #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:51:20 +0100)
@claireOT @clissa89 thanks- I’ll have to look it up. I dimly recall it was part of a major study of young ppl with schizophrenia, too #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:51:36 +0100)
@BillWongOT I also wonder one thing- can burnout cause boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:51:36 +0100)
@Minervabythesea #occhat This is a fascinating subject – I quite fancy researching it – with all ages, with people with different conditions/backgrounds…(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:52:12 +0100)
@GillyGorry @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk yeah. Maybe context, motivation etc all play a part.. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:52:24 +0100)
@sarahahpmh #occhat hi there @claireOT sound interesting, was that a blog?(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:52:43 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk I occasionally do nothing but do not get bored, usually too much going on in my head! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:52:45 +0100)
@Keeper85 @Tchamp13 @clissa89 @kirstyes as any component of occupation should be viewed πŸ˜€ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:04 +0100)
@Dai2584 is boredom something we need in life, a bit like anxiety. We need it to motivate ourselves #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:08 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @Keeper85 @Helen_otuk @robbrooks_uk @Dai2584 this y need 2 b client centred, if not causing occ interruption no need 4 intervention #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:23 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @clissa89 well.. From my own personal experience I know they are very different. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:24 +0100)
@BillWongOT @GillyGorry @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk yes… have you seen the link of wikipedia I just put up about cocooning? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:29 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @BillWongOT : I also wonder one thing- can burnout cause boredom? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:31 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @Dai2584 : is boredom something we need in life, a bit like anxiety. We need it to motivate ourselves #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:42 +0100)
@Minervabythesea @clissa89 @Tchamp13 @kirstyes yes because “boredom” is just a label for a subjective condition that can be positive or negative #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:42 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 I think we need to know what it ‘looks’ or ‘feels’ like. Notice the triggers. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:53:50 +0100)
@clissa89 We’ve got a few minutes left (but feel free to keep chatting past the end) – what’s your take-away message from the chat? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:02 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @Dai2584 I agree, a bit of boredom never did any harm #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:23 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @OTalk_Occhat : RT @Dai2584 : is boredom something we need in life, a bit like anxiety. We need it to motivate ourselves #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:37 +0100)
@Minervabythesea @claireOT and not true for all deaf people, depends when deaf & many other factors #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:40 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Dai2584 good question? I think so in a sense because sometimes that can drive our motivation to do something. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:41 +0100)
@Keeper85 @GillyGorry @clissa89 but that depends how u define them? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:46 +0100)
@claireOT . @sarahahpmh here you go. Maslow’s hierarchy of SoMe http://t.co/i7GUbOMsVM #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:54:47 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @clissa89 i’ve experience the power of occupation & the power of boredom. Makes me value what I do & recognise disinterest #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:55:05 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 Boredom is NOT a boring subject to discuss with OT peeps. πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:55:15 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @BillWongOT : @clissa89 Boredom is NOT a boring subject to discuss with OT peeps. πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:55:30 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @claireOT : . @sarahahpmh here you go. Maslow’s hierarchy of SoMe http://t.co/i7GUbOMsVM #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:01 +0100)
@sarahahpmh @claireOT #occhat you’re a darling thanks.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:27 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT teehee! admit I was a bit worried that people would say “that’s boring, why discuss it?” – but I find it interesting! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:29 +0100)
@claireOT Got to duck out, #occhat , although most definitely not bored!! See you later, thanks for the chat everyone x #pacing (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:30 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BillWongOT : @clissa89 Boredom is NOT a boring subject to discuss with OT peeps. πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:41 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Keeper85 agree also the importance of doing nothing! I try to make time to ‘do nothing’ just to switch off or down at least. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:43 +0100)
@CommuneOT Boredom – Einstein said “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:50 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @GillyGorry @robbrooks_uk I hadn’t. Had a Look now. I think I have that. Love that her name was popcorn?! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:56:50 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT thank you for your contributions Claire! really interesting #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:07 +0100)
@claireOT RT @CommuneOT : Boredom – Einstein said “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:08 +0100)
@darthknitty @sophiewearing @clissa89 that’s it! Sometimes the barrier is just me, my own mind #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 so much more lively than when I discussed with my OT peeps in my MH OT class back in the day, that’s for sure. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:18 +0100)
@GillyGorry #occhat tonight’s chat has me thinking about occupational overload…. Maybe other topic ?(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:25 +0100)
@CharOTReilly @clissa89 boredom is more than I had anticipated, its is something to think about. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:35 +0100)
@Helen_otuk YES! RT @GillyGorry : #occhat tonight’s chat has me thinking about occupational overload…. Maybe other topic ?(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:42 +0100)
@claireOT ? @GillyGorry : #occhat tonight’s chat has me thinking about occupational overload…. Maybe other topic ?? <Great idea!(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:46 +0100)
@Keeper85 @Helen_otuk exactly…but that has to be on ur terms! If I made u do nothing it would be completely different πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:48 +0100)
@CharOTReilly RT @CommuneOT : Boredom – Einstein said “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:57:54 +0100)
@clissa89 @darthknitty @sophiewearing in the article I posted, there was a quote about “occupational deprivation as a state of mind” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:00 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT @gillygorry yes that would be a really good topic! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:28 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @GillyGorry @robbrooks_uk Some youths in Asian countries (at least I am aware of in Japan & HK) have this problem. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:29 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk Lots of interesting ideas for my boredom lecture, thanks. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agreed RT @Keeper85 : exactly…but that has to be on ur terms! If I made u do nothing it would be completely different πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:34 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @GillyGorry @robbrooks_uk and this can be a very serious MH issue. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:51 +0100)
@Dai2584 @GillyGorry #occhat now that we be a good topic(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:58:52 +0100)
@Minervabythesea Need self confidence & self esteem to challenge external but internalised barriers to self actualisation – social model can help #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:59:00 +0100)
@Keeper85 RT @CommuneOT : Boredom – Einstein said “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:59:11 +0100)
@darthknitty @clissa89 @sophiewearing sounds interesting but think I’ll wait til brain not scrambled on painkillers! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:59:28 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @clissa89 that’s why it’s subjective… #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 20:59:37 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat Apologies to @clissa89 and #occhat -headache and allergies came on so account quietened towards the end. Need to go recover.Thanks for chat.(Tue, 07 May 2013 20:59:47 +0100)
@clissa89 Thank you everyone for an interesting chat tonight! I’m shattered so going to disappear now – but feel free to keep chatting #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:15 +0100)
@Minervabythesea @clissa89 @claireOT that reminded me why I love twitter, thanks for #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:24 +0100)
@BillWongOT @robbrooks_uk check out the wikipedia link I put up on cocooning, too. I think it’s also related to today’s talk #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:48 +0100)
@Keeper85 @OTalk_Occhat @clissa89 get we’ll! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:50 +0100)
@clissa89 We will do the grabchat this time tomorrow, so you have 24 hours to keep adding your thoughts, questions, reflections! πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:53 +0100)
@sophiewearing @clissa89 @darthknitty ill have2try find ur post!sounds great!I do agree state of mind certainly plays a big role!other factors too #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:00:55 +0100)
@clissa89 @OTalk_Occhat thank you so much for your help tonight @kirstyes , really appreciate it. Hope you feel better soon #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:01:24 +0100)
@GillyGorry @clissa89 @claireot @Helen_otuk I will grab a date! #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:01:37 +0100)
@clissa89 @sophiewearing http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:01:47 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @BillWongOT Thanks, will take a look #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:01:54 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Dai2584 I will get it planned #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:02:06 +0100)
@Helen_otuk BIG thanks to @clissa89 for such a stimulating and non boring topic. Thanks to @kirstyes for supporting. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:02:08 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @OTalk_Occhat @kirstyes same! hope you feel better. Thanks for hanging in there for us today. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:02:17 +0100)
@Keeper85 @clissa89 well done mate! Great chat πŸ™‚ #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:02:39 +0100)
@clissa89 Also feel free to add comments to my blog post http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:02:43 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Keeper85 well done for your early start and joining us for #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:03:13 +0100)
@Dai2584 #occhat The talking about DSM on bbc radio 4 at moment. if people are interested(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:04:17 +0100)
@GillyGorry Great #occhat !!! I’ve been feeling chat deprived lately! That definitely wasn’t boring! :)(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:05:10 +0100)
@Keeper85 @Helen_otuk hahaha no probs πŸ™‚ pleasures mine #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:05:17 +0100)
@sophiewearing @clissa89 @OTalk_Occhat @Dai2584 definitely,without boredom how would we gain real satisfaction in life? #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:05:18 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @michael_iwama hope you enjoyed your first #occhat . We (Clarissa) will grab and add to blog in 24hrs so do keep tweeting your thoughts.(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:06:06 +0100)
@Keeper85 @sophiewearing @clissa89 @OTalk_Occhat @Dai2584 def need the 2 poles of engagement #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:06:10 +0100)
@BillWongOT @sophiewearing @clissa89 @OTalk_Occhat @Dai2584 or sometimes have room to engage in occupations that are meaningful to us. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:06:46 +0100)
@sarahahpmh @claireOT #occhat good blog, Does it challenge “duty to care”(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:10:27 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @GillyGorry @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk it leads 2 the question have u never been bored while doing somethin meaningful, I know I have #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:13:50 +0100)
@Dai2584 On radio 4 now, they asking if its ok for therapists to cry in a therapy session #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:15:04 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Nnikki_Duffy @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk me too #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:20:01 +0100)
@Keeper85 @Nnikki_Duffy @GillyGorry @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk ur assuming meaning is a static concept #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:22:36 +0100)
@Nnikki_Duffy @Keeper85 @gillygorry @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk #occhat good point.(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:25:48 +0100)
@SherieneHannah @Keeper85 @clissa89 just everything I can’t get into everything I’m just so bored and constantly at my whits end #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:36:41 +0100)
@Dai2584 Well Being of One Nation http://t.co/MFwFyK5ych via @wordpressdotcom #occhat my blog if ppl are interested(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:39:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life next week is #OTalk . This week is #occhat . I may be doing topic in a pinch for next week.(Tue, 07 May 2013 21:51:19 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @nnikki_duffy @kirstyes @robbrooks_uk I have been busy.. But still bored. Yes a deficit in something… Subjective though #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:56:11 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @nnikki_duffy @kirstyes deficit in doing something I want.. Doesn’t mean the things I do already don’t have meaning.. #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 21:58:10 +0100)
@robbrooks_uk @GillyGorry Busy but still bored would suggest a lack of meaning, monotony or skill/demand mismatch #occhAT (Tue, 07 May 2013 22:10:31 +0100)
@claireOT @charl885 oops, sorry! How to Twitter http://t.co/8OPSdIGLxR #occhat @michael_iwama (Tue, 07 May 2013 22:11:39 +0100)
@GillyGorry @robbrooks_uk yep.. That would be why I stopped being bored and trained as an OT lol #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 22:19:12 +0100)
@GillyGorry @Keeper85 @nnikki_duffy @kirstyes maybe. Or maybe just that my occupational choices were restricted #occhat choice carries huge meaning 4 me(Tue, 07 May 2013 22:21:11 +0100)
@AliSeasman RT @CommuneOT : Boredom – Einstein said “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 22:41:18 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @clissa89 : Also feel free to add comments to my blog post http://t.co/wLwORX1QlL #occhat (Tue, 07 May 2013 23:19:00 +0100)
@LeonoraOT Thnx & for @annatreloar if you missed it MT? @clissa89 : ?my blog post on boredom? http://t.co/duEzBYgmQR has some different theories #occhat ?(Tue, 07 May 2013 23:27:19 +0100)
@BillWongOT @CMiller_OTs I am also a part of #OTalk / #Occhat (even though it’s based in UK). This week’s topic for #occhat is on boredom. Check it out.(Wed, 08 May 2013 00:07:47 +0100)
@Thoodles @clissa89 @kirstyes I’ve been bored even if i didn’t have things I needed to do, but could do. For me boredom reduced motivation. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:22:12 +0100)
@Thoodles Boredom can lead to reduced motivation of doing things that I normally would enjoy doing. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:23:11 +0100)
@Thoodles @clissa89 i usually try to get inspired or look for things that could get me going, even if it means procrastination. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:24:34 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @Thoodles : Boredom can lead to reduced motivation of doing things that I normally would enjoy doing. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:25:22 +0100)
@Thoodles Would things like being tired lead to boredom, due to the reduced motivation to engage in occupation? #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:26:40 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Thoodles @clissa89 As a pianist, I sometimes I get motivated if I listen to a piano piece that represents a just right challenge. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:27:17 +0100)
@Thoodles So maybe if you’re bored, take a nap. If you wake up feeling refreshed you can get back on task. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:27:32 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Thoodles I brought up a question about burnout and boredom earlier. So, I think that can be a factor. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:28:02 +0100)
@Thoodles @BillWongOT @clissa89 that is exactly what I’m talking about. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:28:43 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Thoodles @clissa89 In learning such a piece (particularly complex ones), it’s more of a process than procrastination. #occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 01:29:54 +0100)
@clissa89 #occhat MT @michael_iwama : @clissa89 … Yesterday, was in a slow university senate mtg & found meself reaching for iPhone & twitter.(Wed, 08 May 2013 05:31:50 +0100)
@clissa89 #occhat MT @michael_iwama : “boredom” profound & culture- bound, tied to place,time& circumstance. Not merely absence of ‘meaningful’ ‘doing'(Wed, 08 May 2013 05:33:02 +0100)
@clissa89 #occhat MT @HScott71 : @michael_iwama @clissa89 Wonder whether social media culture affects children – bored by traditional play occupations?(Wed, 08 May 2013 05:35:20 +0100)
@claireOT @Symbolic_Life we’re so delighted, too! #otalk #occhat #leadership (Wed, 08 May 2013 09:24:28 +0100)
@clissa89 #occhat RT @DebLants : @claireOT @clissa89 i agree with this. When you’re bored you look into other things to keep you occupied(Wed, 08 May 2013 13:01:36 +0100)
@roberTO_OT Boredom to me is lack of productive doing. Big issue w/unemployed! Espec. in my research. Disability also plays a role – wanting2do! #Occhat (Wed, 08 May 2013 14:07:01 +0100)
@roberTO_OT @Keeper85 #Occhat Boredom doesn’t necessarily have to relate to occupation. Therefore, productivity as opposed to meaning is more salient(Wed, 08 May 2013 14:20:52 +0100)

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#Occhat 25th March 2013 – Occupational Evaluation/Outcome Measures – Grabchat

Once again a huge thank you to Michelle Perryman for hosting the final talk in the OT Process series.

Michelle shared some great links on the blog before the chat which you can find here.

Please find the grabchat below and the Healthcare hashtag PDF summary on this link:

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@Helen_otuk Off to work, looking forward to tonight 8pm. #occhat for #OTuesday . Last in our OT Process series. http://t.co/Szc190tfma (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 08:12:25 +0000)
@BAOTCOT It’s an #occhat week – follow the hashtag from 8pm tonight for a conversation on occupational evaluation/outcome measures…(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:14:00 +0000)
@Sunnysdais RT @BAOTCOT : It’s an #occhat week – follow the hashtag from 8pm tonight for a conversation on occupational evaluation/outcome measures…(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 14:27:09 +0000)
@clissa89 RT @Helen_otuk : Off to work, looking forward to tonight 8pm. #occhat for #OTuesday . Last in our OT Process series. http://t.co/Szc190tfma (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:06:10 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat One hour until #occhat on Occupational Evaluation/Outcome Measures. See you then @kirstyes on the account tonight. @Symbolic_Life hosting.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:57:19 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat Abigail hello to all our new followers, hope to see you at #occhat tonight. Don’t forget the hashtag on your tweets.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 18:59:41 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @BAOTCOT : It’s an #occhat week – follow the hashtag from 8pm tonight for a conversation on occupational evaluation/outcome measures…(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:28:26 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Looking forward to #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:33:26 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Hi #occhat How is everyone this fine night?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:56:48 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat Hi all, who’s here and raring to #occhat ?
Just a reminder professional standards apply online @The_HCPC guidance – http://t.co/it13UJ2dLd (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:59:26 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat If anyone needs support tweet me here and I’ll do my best to help.
Main rule is remember the hashtag #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:59:58 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat Thanks to @Symbolic_Life who agreed to host tonight’s chat. Check out the blog post/resources for tonight. #occhat http://t.co/iUT5jPs6vo (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:01:47 +0000)
@BillWongOT @OTalk_Occhat Good afternoon from Los Angeles! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:02:03 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Hi all shall we kick of with ‘ Do you think as a profession we need outcome measures?’ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:03:38 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @OTalk_Occhat : Hi all, who’s here and raring to #occhat ?
Just a reminder professional standards apply online @The_HCPC guidance – http://t.co/it13UJ2dLd (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:04:00 +0000)
@clissa89 RT @Symbolic_Life : Hi all shall we kick of with ‘ Do you think as a profession we need outcome measures?’ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:04:26 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @Symbolic_Life : Hi all shall we kick of with ‘ Do you think as a profession we need outcome measures?’ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:04:34 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life If it’s for evidence based purposes, the answer is yes in my book. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:04:51 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life yes lol how else do we know if what we do is actually being effective? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:05:02 +0000)
@DebbiiHarrison @OTalk_Occhat @symbolic_life Good evening fellow OTs I’ll be following #occhat tonight but will prob be sitting quietly in the corner(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:05:41 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life it’s 6am! Lol #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:05:44 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @BillWongOT what about for practical purposes? proving the worth of the profession? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:06:00 +0000)
@clissa89 Hi everyone, sorry I won’t be joining #occhat tonight but I need some restoration to balance my day(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:06:13 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 My thoughts exactly #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:06:26 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life yes lol how else do we know if what we do is actually being effective? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:06:31 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life we still do in some instances because we’ve to at least prove that we are as good, if not better than alternatives. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:07:48 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life if we don’t know how we’re going we then can’t review and improve our practice. OM are Objective reflections lol #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:07:48 +0000)
@cgenter #occhat maybe another question is what constituents useful outcome measures? i.e. client satisfaction, their performance or something else?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:09:03 +0000)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life I think that we need them for clients too. #occhat To help them see the changes (sometimes they may struggle to do this)(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:09:13 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 So do u think our outcome measures improve our individual skills as well as the profession’s acknowledgment of practice? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:09:40 +0000)
@Keeper85 @BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life formal/informal it doesn’t matter but we need to complete that feedback loop for our interventions #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:09:47 +0000)
@cgenter #occhat oops meant constitutes not constituents!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:09:53 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat ? @Symbolic_Life : 2. So why are Outcome Measures important?? #occhat (Don’t forget the hashtag tweeps)(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:10:08 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @cgenter : #occhat maybe another question is what constituents useful outcome measures? i.e. client satisfaction, their performance or something else?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:10:21 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @cgenter : #occhat maybe another question is what constituents useful outcome measures? i.e. client satisfaction, their performance or something else?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:10:38 +0000)
@BillWongOT @cgenter quality of life, FIM scores, etc. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:10:51 +0000)
@cgenter #occhat OM important as part of intervention, demonstrating client progress to them?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:10:56 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life I don’t think OMs on their own do anything but a clinician willing to change/improve based on feedback will do lots #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:11:07 +0000)
@BillWongOT @OTalk_Occhat @Symbolic_Life For some instances, clients & caregivers can see progress. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:11:23 +0000)
@kirstyes @cgenter good question Chris. Good to see you. What about if we can prove reduced length of stay. Not occupational but??? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:11:52 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 @BillWongOT what about the clients perspective as @kirstyes suggested? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:11:54 +0000)
@cgenter @BillWongOT #occhat yes lots of different ways, I think could be summed up by Doble and Caron Santha idea of occupational well-being?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:11:54 +0000)
@BillWongOT @OTalk_Occhat @Symbolic_Life and more importantly, we need that to show this to get reimbursed. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:12:17 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life @BillWongOT @kirstyes the most important We can see All the progress in the world…useless unless the ct sees it too #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:13:12 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @BillWongOT @OTalk_Occhat Do u think this supports your practice bill? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:13:12 +0000)
@cgenter @kirstyes #occhat thanks, nice to find time to be back. that would be popular in UK health service, would depend if it was client goal too?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:13:29 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life @cgenter FIM = functional independence measure. It’s a quantitative measure of independence. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:13:54 +0000)
@rootsvoices @Symbolic_Life outcome measures can’t be meaningfully applied to human experience – if research necessary it needs to be qualitative #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:13:56 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat @EmmJacq great to have you here. If you do join in, want to ask a question etc don’t forget the #occhat so people who don’t follow u can see(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:14:02 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life @kirstyes I tend to use outcomes that are done with the client so they can see and an objective one as well #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:14:32 +0000)
@DebbiiHarrison @Keeper85 @symbolic_life @billwongot @kirstyes agree with this, we need OM to support our profession but must be relevant to client #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:14:47 +0000)
@Helen_otuk Good evening #occhat , just catching up.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:14:51 +0000)
@cgenter @rootsvoices #occhat wholeheartedly agree with that, think OM can be bit more interesting to management than anyone else?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:15:08 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life @OTalk_Occhat good question- it does cuz clients & families can see small & big changes functionally usually. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:15:18 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 @BillWongOT @kirstyes So are you suggesting unless the client recognizes this change to it isnt benefical? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:15:28 +0000)
@EmmJacq @OTalk_Occhat Oops! yes, will remember the #occhat , thanks(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:15:38 +0000)
@Keeper85 @cgenter @rootsvoices not if its done right πŸ™‚ it’s about self improvement too #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:16:13 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Question 3. What outcome measures do you use with your clients And why? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:17:04 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life @BillWongOT @kirstyes horses for courses. I use multiple outcome measures for different purposes 1 for ct, 1 for mgt #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:17:23 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @cgenter @rootsvoices Why do you think this Chris? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:17:37 +0000)
@cgenter @Keeper85 #occhat I suppose a concern could be what are outcome measures used for then? whose agenda is setting them?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:17:42 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life back in the day, I was given the COPM. Now no outcome measures… #strange #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:18:14 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life @kirstyes and same with peds assessments, too. Dependent on age & area(s) 2 b assessed, for ex. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:19:01 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life I use a lot of solution focused practice with clients where they use progress to preferred future as an OM #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:19:02 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat as previous answer, about what the agenda for having outcome measures, and whether they are suitable?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:19:06 +0000)
@DrWMB #occhat hello just joining: intrigued by impact of adding “measures” to outcomes – does it force particular ways of thinking?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:19:13 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life I use AusTOMs for my own clinical effectiveness #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:19:48 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 Intresting.. How do u think this associates with our philosophy? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:20:17 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life and my organisation uses the HONOS for mgt facts and figures #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:20:18 +0000)
@cgenter #occhat idea of measure suggests pass/fail, that there is a standard to be achieved in some instances?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:21:01 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @Symbolic_Life : Question 3. What outcome measures do you use with your clients And why? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:21:24 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @cgenter I agree? Some services assume they are for ex doin a MOHOST with every client.does this directly link to client need? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:21:29 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @DrWMB : #occhat hello just joining: intrigued by impact of adding “measures” to outcomes – does it force particular ways of thinking?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:21:45 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life strengths based, client focused, client driven, empowering them with choice and responsibility. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:21:58 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 Does this allow service measurement? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:22:10 +0000)
@Keeper85 RT @rootsvoices : @Keeper85 example of quantitative outcome measure ‘done right’ ?? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:22:24 +0000)
@BillWongOT @cgenter or in peds assessment, where the child is functionally in the areas assessed relative to peers. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:22:28 +0000)
@cgenter #occhat perhaps depends who decides what are the significant outcomes? maybe need compromise between service and client expectations?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:22:46 +0000)
@Helen_otuk In my adaptations work we have 2 pronged view. Client’s perspective then we also have to do the financial impact for the ‘man stats’ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:22:50 +0000)
@DrWMB @cgenter @symbolic_life #occhat as an audiology service user I’m pleased if my hearing tests don’t get worse but that’s not the whole story(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:23:38 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life the HONOS is used for that service wide yea #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:23:50 +0000)
@BillWongOT @cgenter I think for certain measures, you have to look at research studies. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:24:02 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @DrWMB : #occhat hello just joining: intrigued by impact of adding “measures” to outcomes – does it force particular ways of thinking?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:24:18 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat funny my last post had MoHOST for each client as a baseline, although this fed into MDT use of recovery star(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:24:23 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : RT @rootsvoices : @Keeper85 example of quantitative outcome measure ‘done right’ ?? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:24:31 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @cgenter : #occhat perhaps depends who decides what are the significant outcomes? maybe need compromise between service and client expectations?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:24:44 +0000)
@cgenter @BillWongOT #occhat true, looking at reliability, validity etc can help with decision making about appropriateness of OM(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:25:34 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @cgenter Intresting, Are u based in MH? How did u find the recovery star? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:25:50 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @cgenter : @BillWongOT #occhat true, looking at reliability, validity etc can help with decision making about appropriateness of OM(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:26:08 +0000)
@BillWongOT RT @cgenter : @BillWongOT #occhat true, looking at reliability, validity etc can help with decision making about appropriateness of OM(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:26:24 +0000)
@kirstyes @cgenter links to purpose of outcome measurements #occhat for client or for profession/service. As others have said prob need both.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:26:35 +0000)
@Keeper85 #occhat I guess my main thing is that u don’t restrict urself to just 1 OM! Use ones appropriate to client, setting and measurement wanted(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:26:37 +0000)
@kirstyes @cgenter Wonder which ones need to be occupational though? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:26:50 +0000)
@Helen_otuk RT @Helen_otuk : When utilising reablement services we/they use GAS for client outcomes. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:06 +0000)
@DrWMB @Helen_otuk : ??’man stats’ what are they? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:23 +0000)
@kirstyes ? @Helen_otuk : When utilising reablement services we/they use GAS for client outcomes.? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:24 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : #occhat I guess my main thing is that u don’t restrict urself to just 1 OM! Use ones appropriate to client, setting and measurement wanted(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:30 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat yes I was, for some reason it never really got off the ground, although I liked how it covered wide range of areas(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:35 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 How do u propose selection? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:49 +0000)
@Helen_otuk @DrWMB management stats sorry, limitation of 140! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:27:54 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @kirstyes : @cgenter Wonder which ones need to be occupational though? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:07 +0000)
@BillWongOT RT @Keeper85 : #occhat I guess my main thing is that u don’t restrict urself to just 1 OM! Use ones appropriate to client, setting and measurement wanted(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:16 +0000)
@kirstyes @DrWMB #occhat So do you mean adding numbers? Are qualitative measures also accepted? By who?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:28 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life 4.How do your outcome measures link to occ?Do they measure performance,engagement,satisfaction or something else? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:28:54 +0000)
@cgenter @kirstyes #occhat I’ve never applied it, but wondered about the idea of occupational well-being as an outcome? http://t.co/KJyWF0Z166 (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:29:45 +0000)
@DrWMB @cgenter @symbolic_life #occhat recovery star seems to be used a lot in MH. I encourage students to to compare it to COPM(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:30:04 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes @DrWMB What type of measure? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:30:25 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @Symbolic_Life : 4.How do your outcome measures link to occ?Do they measure performance,engagement,satisfaction or something else? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:30:33 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @cgenter : @kirstyes #occhat I’ve never applied it, but wondered about the idea of occupational well-being as an outcome? http://t.co/KJyWF0Z166 (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:30:57 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life Dependence on the measure… IMO. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:05 +0000)
@DrWMB @Helen_otuk #occhat thanks, glad to clear that one up!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:15 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life But I think it’s important with client-centered and/or family-centered goals in mind #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:39 +0000)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life @drwmb as in people saying life is better for me or some such #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:44 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat in past mine was related to performance, but perhaps well-being is important?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:48 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life that’s up to the clinician to decide really #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:31:57 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @cgenter in your opinion which holds higher ranking? What do u think about the applied concepts in the recovery star? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:32:20 +0000)
@kirstyes @cgenter Think you wanted to run an #occhat on this ;0)
Need to read but yes think that would be good to explore.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:32:32 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @cgenter Why did it not pick up do you think? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:32:36 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life solution focused looks at a clients progression towards their preferred future #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:32:47 +0000)
@DrWMB @kirstyes #occhat the act of measuring is essentially counting? Therefore quantitative? Whereas outcomes are not always measurable(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:33:06 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life AusTOMs looks at objective improvement in engagement #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:33:17 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @cgenter : @Symbolic_Life #occhat in past mine was related to performance, but perhaps well-being is important?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:33:20 +0000)
@BillWongOT RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life solution focused looks at a clients progression towards their preferred future #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:33:34 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat the consultant leading on it moved on, and the momentum wasn’t there to keep it going. New consultant had diff ideas(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:33:45 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life informally I look at QoL and satisfaction with service from a clients perspective #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:34:10 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @cgenter i agree- esp with the high quality care for all.. However, is this measurable? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:34:11 +0000)
@danielleb_90 @Symbolic_Life I use the DASH to review effectiveness of the intervention from first to last appointment #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:34:38 +0000)
@cgenter @kirstyes #occhat oh yes, it’s on the to-do list!!;)(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:34:45 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @Keeper85 Any thoughts what do u think is important for outcome measures? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:34:52 +0000)
@DrWMB @kirstyes @symbolic_life #occhat true, ‘life is better’ is good, but I wonder if it’s enough?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:14 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life that they fit with the client and the practitioner and give you exactly what info your trying to capture #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:35:48 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life OM should be a benefit not a drain on a service/clinician #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:11 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @DrWMB : @cgenter @symbolic_life #occhat recovery star seems to be used a lot in MH. I encourage students to to compare it to COPM(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:14 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @kirstyes Is quantitative not measurable in the context of the client choosing the scale number? #occhat they create meaning to scale?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:14 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life AusTOMs looks at objective improvement in engagement #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:19 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @danielleb_90 : @Symbolic_Life I use the DASH to review effectiveness of the intervention from first to last appointment #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:40 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat think this suggests some ways http://t.co/KJyWF0Z166, but not standardised. they are still working on it I believe(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:40 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @danielleb_90 DASH? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:36:52 +0000)
@DrWMB @Symbolic_Life #occhat COPM and recovery star have different benefits but it’s good to compare – can help thinking about occupation(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:37:22 +0000)
@BillWongOT RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life OM should be a benefit not a drain on a service/clinician #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:37:24 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @cgenter I like this concept.. You ever herd of the personal construct theory? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:37:50 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat @danielleb_90 @symbolic_life Yes which DASH, I know of two with this abbreviation ;0) #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:38:09 +0000)
@cgenter @Richardsblister #occhat good point, not suitable for all settings, maybe focus on priority aspects? list occ needs 1/2(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:38:32 +0000)
@Helen_otuk @MaycockN GAS = Goal Attainment Scale / Scaling. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:38:54 +0000)
@kirstyes @DrWMB @symbolic_life enough for who? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:38:56 +0000)
@cgenter @Richardsblister #occhat and then ask the client to identify one the wish to work on during intervention? 2/2(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:07 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life 5.How about the underpinning theory of the OM’S? Are the outcome measures you are choosing sound for reasoning? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:25 +0000)
@cgenter @Symbolic_Life #occhat no, looks like something I will have to google though!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:32 +0000)
@DrWMB @Symbolic_Life @kirstyes #occhat with subjective self measures, the outcome is the self measured difference before/after intervention(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:39:35 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life we don’t always have to chose.. My client set their own scales and what they want to measure from our time #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:41:07 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life don’t get what you are asking. Please clarify #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:41:17 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @cgenter : @kirstyes #occhat I’ve never applied it, but wondered about the idea of occupational well-being as an outcome? http://t.co/KJyWF0Z166 (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:41:25 +0000)
@danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat @symbolic_life I work in hand therapy. We use the quick DASH – disabilities of the arm, shoulder and hand #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:42:17 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @kirstyes So a quantitative approach could be measured in respect of placing personal meaning on there numerical value? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:42:38 +0000)
@kirstyes What about using a video of occupational performance as an occupational OM? #occhat
Know it is used to eval SI intervention for example(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:43:06 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat Does this depict function impact? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:44:05 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @kirstyes I think this is difficult. My “7” on the COPM could be different from another person’s “7” on it. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:44:17 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @kirstyes : What about using a video of occupational performance as an occupational OM? #occhat
Know it is used to eval SI intervention for example(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:44:22 +0000)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life @drwmb But if it is for the client do we need numbers? Or is this just for the service? Do we devalue by adding nos? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:44:28 +0000)
@kirstyes Kawa for example could be evaluated by demonstrating the change in the river diagram,how valid would it be to measure rocks by mm? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:25 +0000)
@Keeper85 @BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @kirstyes depends who ur measuring for. If its for u to track progress it doesn’t matter #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:36 +0000)
@TherapistOT #occhat the measures that are meaningful must be those defined by our service users(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:46 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life If it’s peds, I would say depends on work setting. Have to work with best available #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:45:54 +0000)
@cgenter @Richardsblister #occhat right! can MoHOST be repeated to achieve this, at each of those intervals?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:46:18 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life 6. Do you think your outcome measures benefit your service users and service evaluation? Is it possible to do both? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:46:30 +0000)
@Keeper85 RT @TherapistOT : #occhat the measures that are meaningful must be those defined by our service users(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:46:33 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @kirstyes I meant something different, as I was talking about my experience as a client 4 COPM. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:47:14 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life it could be FM, GM, and that is dependent on parent interviews, teachers input, etc. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:48:25 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes @DrWMB To gain professional reckoning is it not vital for evaluation? #occhat #commissioning (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:48:29 +0000)
@RebeccaTwinley @Keeper85 @symbolic_life And that really challenges-in a good way-service-driven use of OMs (who r we doing it for/with?) #Occhat hello btw!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:48:30 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life I’ve not seen it happen with the same OM hence my use of multiple #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:48:39 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat I have a question for all, how often do your assessments or goals become your outcome measures or is it something else on top? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:48:44 +0000)
@BillWongOT @DrWMB true… I know the FIM does that, for example. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:48:56 +0000)
@DrWMB @kirstyes #occhat v amusing but notice how the river narrows and widens (measurable difference) and gets more cluttered or clearer?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:49:18 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Sorry if im not catching up with all answers- Il be sure to after our fast moving chat is ended πŸ™‚ Thank you all for your replies! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:49:29 +0000)
@cgenter #occhat @Richardsblister right, context makes sense now. Would some form of online/email evaluation work (until outreach OTs arrive!)(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:49:50 +0000)
@Keeper85 @RebeccaTwinley @symbolic_life YAY! Rebecca’s here! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:49:59 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life I’ve not seen it happen with the same OM hence my use of multiple #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:50:01 +0000)
@BillWongOT @OTalk_Occhat If it’s peds, I think assessments and goals go hand in hand with OM’s. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:50:27 +0000)
@Keeper85 @RebeccaTwinley @symbolic_life completely agree! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:50:28 +0000)
@Helen_otuk @OTalk_Occhat for adaptations then yes the clients goals are the outcome measure. But we also have to do financial impacts additonal #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:50:56 +0000)
@BillWongOT @cgenter @Richardsblister That may work- maybe something like telehealth? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:51:00 +0000)
@Keeper85 @OTalk_Occhat always #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:51:17 +0000)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @symbolic_life @drwmb Yes, score will be diff between clients but purp of COPM not 2 compare clients 2 others only self #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:51:27 +0000)
@DrWMB @Symbolic_Life @kirstyes #occhat we need numbers or measures, yes, but they are not the only outcomes which should be valued(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:51:58 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life 7. How can we as a profession ensure we are using the right OM’S for client and service for the Payment By Results incentive? (UK) #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:51:59 +0000)
@kirstyes @Richardsblister @symbolic_life @drwmb Do the figures they want measure what they need to? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:52:33 +0000)
@danielleb_90 @Symbolic_Life @otalk_occhat it looks aspects of ADLs/work and pts rate difficulty on scale (no difficulty-severe/unable) Its quick #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:52:57 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @kirstyes : @Richardsblister @symbolic_life @drwmb Do the figures they want measure what they need to? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:52:59 +0000)
@kirstyes RT @DrWMB : @kirstyes #occhat v amusing but notice how the river narrows and widens (measurable difference) and gets more cluttered or clearer?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:53:05 +0000)
@TherapistOT @kirstyes video is my favourite tool & we are only just working out how we can use this #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:53:17 +0000)
@kirstyes @DrWMB ;0). So a more qualitative narrative of change in this instance then ;0) #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:53:34 +0000)
@kirstyes RT @TherapistOT : @kirstyes video is my favourite tool & we are only just working out how we can use this #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:53:48 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life Chart review & doing a good job on client’s occupational history is important. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:53:57 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @TherapistOT : @kirstyes video is my favourite tool & we are only just working out how we can use this #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:54:11 +0000)
@BillWongOT RT @TherapistOT : @kirstyes video is my favourite tool & we are only just working out how we can use this #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:54:26 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @BillWongOT : @Symbolic_Life Chart review & doing a good job on client’s occupational history is important. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:54:31 +0000)
@RebeccaTwinley @OTalk_Occhat taking a general overview/perspective based upon exp and working with OTs as educators id say far more often than not #Occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:54:50 +0000)
@kirstyes @TherapistOT great, will be interested to see how you get on. #occhat
Issues of confidentiality etc with video depending on use.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:54:51 +0000)
@TherapistOT #occhat many outcome measures are more about demonstrating value our service than valuable to our clients(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:55:03 +0000)
@DrWMB @Richardsblister @kirstyes @symbolic_life #occhat figures drive so much but restrict reasoning and innovation?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:55:13 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @BillWongOT : @OTalk_Occhat If it’s peds, I think assessments and goals go hand in hand with OM’s. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:55:19 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @kirstyes : @TherapistOT great, will be interested to see how you get on. #occhat
Issues of confidentiality etc with video depending on use.(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:55:37 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @TherapistOT : #occhat many outcome measures are more about demonstrating value our service than valuable to our clients(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:55:45 +0000)
@cgenter @Richardsblister #Occhat yes that could be off-putting for some, or an opportunity for skill development for others? I think there are eMoHO(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:55:54 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @TherapistOT how do you think we can change this to consider both? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:00 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat @RebeccaTwinley I think this is a good thing, means the process works?? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:17 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life because your clinical reasoning will come into play. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:21 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @DrWMB @richardsblister @kirstyes how do you think this can be reviewed? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:27 +0000)
@Keeper85 @BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life for Ax maybe but got very little to do with OM #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:34 +0000)
@DrWMB @kirstyes #occhat kawa is good example of benefits of combining measuring and telling stories then?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:54 +0000)
@TherapistOT @kirstyes my consent process becomes an empowering process of recovery #Occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:56:55 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Ok FINAL QUESTION…… 8. How do you propose we audit our outcome measures? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:57:43 +0000)
@BillWongOT RT @TherapistOT : @kirstyes my consent process becomes an empowering process of recovery #Occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:57:51 +0000)
@cgenter @Richardsblister #occhat http://t.co/Som7CzmsVm link to eMoHO, not sure if it’s what you are after though?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:58:13 +0000)
@DrWMB @Symbolic_Life @richardsblister @kirstyes #occhat by insisting on explaining the figure and measurements? Providing a narrative?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:58:28 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat Last two minutes. Feel free to keep chatting folks, will grab the chat after 24 hours. But any take home messages? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:58:47 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat Huge thanks to @Symbolic_Life for hosting and everyone for joining in. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:59:15 +0000)
@EmmJacq @kirstyes @TherapistOT more client-centered when enabling the client to see change for themselves rather than just stating it? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:59:15 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life triangulation of information #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:59:30 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat #occhat . Next week is an #OTalk on student to practitioner transition. @clissa89 blog post which you can read in prep http://t.co/Z08CYFYJOI (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:00:03 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @OTalk_Occhat : Last two minutes. Feel free to keep chatting folks, will grab the chat after 24 hours. But any take home messages? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:00:12 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life triangulation of information #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:00:43 +0000)
@pd2ot RT @OTalk_Occhat : #occhat . Next week is an #OTalk on student to practitioner transition. @clissa89 blog post which you can read in prep http://t.co/Z08CYFYJOI (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:00:46 +0000)
@BillWongOT @OTalk_Occhat OM’s are important in this day and age in EBP. But we need to measures are client and family centered. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:00:50 +0000)
@Helen_otuk Thanks folks, lots of thoughts to take to my ‘new’ role and how we will ‘measure’ I will let you know how I get on/ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:01:05 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @OTalk_Occhat : #occhat . Next week is an #OTalk on student to practitioner transition. @clissa89 blog post which you can read in prep http://t.co/Z08CYFYJOI (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:01:09 +0000)
@RebeccaTwinley @OTalk_Occhat Y,there r many reasons we use OMs & so there r many approaches/tools/strategies to doing so.I see that as their value #Occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:01:10 +0000)
@DrWMB @OTalk_Occhat #occhat thanks, interesting: know how and what to measure and why: tell the story for context(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:01:37 +0000)
@kirstyes @EmmJacq @therapistot Definitely. watching a Pre and post intervention video may enable changes 2be seen that aren’t in real time?? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:02:05 +0000)
@Lara_Stanley RT @OTalk_Occhat : #occhat . Next week is an #OTalk on student to practitioner transition. @clissa89 blog post which you can read in prep http://t.co/Z08CYFYJOI (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:02:07 +0000)
@kirstyes RT @DrWMB : @kirstyes #occhat kawa is good example of benefits of combining measuring and telling stories then?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:02:20 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @BillWongOT : @OTalk_Occhat OM’s are important in this day and age in EBP. But we need to measures are client and family centered. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:02:25 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Helen_otuk : Thanks folks, lots of thoughts to take to my ‘new’ role and how we will ‘measure’ I will let you know how I get on/ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:02:46 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @DrWMB : @OTalk_Occhat #occhat thanks, interesting: know how and what to measure and why: tell the story for context(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:03:04 +0000)
@kirstyes @DrWMB Maybe, I do like a good narrative me. Think we plan to look at Kawa again this year. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:03:04 +0000)
@Keeper85 #occhat thanks to @Symbolic_Life for an awesome chat! One of my favs so far! Thought provoking(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:03:07 +0000)
@kirstyes @Richardsblister @symbolic_life @drwmb Sounds like a need for a longitudinal research audit there. ;0) #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:01 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life Thank You all for such yummy chat by assisting me in reckoning with OM’S in different services as i go into my writing my MSc Dissi #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:03 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life RT @Keeper85 : #occhat thanks to @Symbolic_Life for an awesome chat! One of my favs so far! Thought provoking(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:14 +0000)
@clissa89 RT @OTalk_Occhat : #occhat . Next week is an #OTalk on student to practitioner transition. @clissa89 blog post which you can read in prep http://t.co/Z08CYFYJOI (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:27 +0000)
@TherapistOT @kirstyes @emmjacq the temporal nature of video promotes deep reflection around the context of performances #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:27 +0000)
@BillWongOT @Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life ditto! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:47 +0000)
@Helen_otuk Thanks to @Symbolic_Life for this evenings #occhat topic and @kirstyes for supporting us. Great job ladies!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:48 +0000)
@kirstyes RT @TherapistOT : @kirstyes @emmjacq the temporal nature of video promotes deep reflection around the context of performances #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:50 +0000)
@DrWMB @kirstyes #occhat me too, narrative reasoning is the business!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:04:58 +0000)
@Helen_otuk Yay from me too RT @DrWMB : @kirstyes #occhat me too, narrative reasoning is the business!(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:06:04 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @BillWongOT : @OTalk_Occhat OM’s are important in this day and age in EBP. But we need to measures are client and family centered. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:06:14 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat @Richardsblister @symbolic_life great to hear. Do let us know on the blog post how you get on with it. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:06:52 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @DrWMB : @OTalk_Occhat #occhat thanks, interesting: know how and what to measure and why: tell the story for context(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:07:24 +0000)
@OTalk_Occhat Night all, switching back to me only. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:08:40 +0000)
@Symbolic_Life @BillWongOT @keeper85 awe shucks … #hidesunderpillow #thanksguys ! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:30:21 +0000)
@Keeper85 @Symbolic_Life hahahaha go u! #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 21:50:18 +0000)
@Wardmans I wasn’t able to join in #occhat tonight. I was otherwise occupied πŸ˜‰ It’s a good read afterwards though. Did you have fun @Symbolic_Life ?(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:09:40 +0000)
@TalkingMats RT @Symbolic_Life : Hi all shall we kick of with ‘ Do you think as a profession we need outcome measures?’ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:29:13 +0000)
@GemSLT RT @Symbolic_Life : Hi all shall we kick of with ‘ Do you think as a profession we need outcome measures?’ #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:30:37 +0000)
@GemSLT RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life yes lol how else do we know if what we do is actually being effective? #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:30:43 +0000)
@Trio33 RT @clissa89 : #Occhat RT @visualinsight : Glowing Screens, Sleepless Nights: An infographic on tech-induced insomnia… http://t.co/QzXACHh3 (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:11:47 +0000)
@OTthoughts RT @TherapistOT : #occhat many outcome measures are more about demonstrating value our service than valuable to our clients(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:32:03 +0000)
@OTthoughts RT @Keeper85 : @Symbolic_Life AusTOMs looks at objective improvement in engagement #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:35:32 +0000)
@OTthoughts RT @cgenter : @Symbolic_Life #occhat think this suggests some ways http://t.co/KJyWF0Z166, but not standardised. they are still working on it I believe(Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:36:22 +0000)
@OTthoughts RT @BillWongOT : @OTalk_Occhat OM’s are important in this day and age in EBP. But we need to measures are client and family centered. #occhat (Tue, 26 Mar 2013 23:37:56 +0000)
@Wardmans @kirstyes after a workshop from Kee Hean lim i would say the conclusions you and the client deduce from KAWA can be measured. #occhat 1/2(Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:40:40 +0000)
@Wardmans @kirstyes it’s the meaning the client gives to the rocks that matters #occhat 2/2(Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:41:17 +0000)
@kirstyes @Wardmans definitely agree with you. Was there any discussion about applying quantitative measures in any way? #occhat (Wed, 27 Mar 2013 15:29:57 +0000)
@BPDFFS RT @OTalk_Occhat : #occhat . Next week is an #OTalk on student to practitioner transition. @clissa89 blog post which you can read in prep http://t.co/Z08CYFYJOI (Thu, 28 Mar 2013 14:05:43 +0000)
@kirstyes @BAOTCOT Not until this evening. Very happy to be part of this. #OTalk #occhat (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:06:20 +0000)
@Helen_otuk #FF the #OTalk #Occhat team pleasure to work with you all. @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 @claireOT @cgenter @ShaanOT @ShaanOT (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:42:33 +0000)
@claireOT RT @Helen_otuk : #FF the #OTalk #Occhat team pleasure to work with you all. @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 @claireOT @cgenter @ShaanOT @ShaanOT (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:54:58 +0000)
@claireOT @Helen_otuk totally agree! #ff #otalk #occhat crew @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 @cgenter @shaanot @shaanot (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:55:18 +0000)
@kirstyes RT @Helen_otuk : #FF the #OTalk #Occhat team pleasure to work with you all. @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 @claireOT @cgenter @ShaanOT @ShaanOT (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:43:34 +0000)
@cgenter Amazing work by all on #OTalk #Occhat , esp. @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 & @claireOT acknowledged in https://t.co/0KghUcLKB6(Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:16:16 +0000)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @cgenter : Amazing work by all on #OTalk #Occhat , esp. @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 & @claireOT acknowledged in https://t.co/0KghUcLKB6(Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:26:13 +0000)
@AnnabelFenn RT @cgenter : Amazing work by all on #OTalk #Occhat , esp. @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @clissa89 & @claireOT acknowledged in https://t.co/0KghUcLKB6(Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:15:35 +0000)
@Helen_otuk Me too, great community of OT’s. RT @kirstyes : @BAOTCOT Not until this evening. Very happy to be part of this. #OTalk #occhat (Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:49:41 +0000)

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