What a busy and interesting chat we had yesterday evening. Thank you to Karen Williams-Miles @Richardsblister for hosting the discussion. Below is information and transcript from healthcare hashtags:
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| BillWongOT |
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Hello everyone. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Please be mindful of your code of ethics / confidentiality and professionalism as we kick off this evenings #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am not a natural tweeter so please be patient with my answers….but i do type quickly! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Hi Bill, we meet again! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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Hi everyone! Tweeting from a noisy pub tonight, with an ice cold lemonade in hand and large candle in front of me. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk would like to say a big hello and thank you to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening. OT and veterans with PTSD. Say hi to Karen. |
| Richardsblister |
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Ok, I am ready this end, if I go eek, its because of the spider in the room! my real room! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 no change there then Clarissa xx #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Good Evening #OTalk looking forward to an interesting chat….. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister take care…. #OTalk those spider are leggy! |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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Hello All, I’m extremely interested in today’s topic and hope to learn from your collective wisdom! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Good evening all #otalk looking forward to tonight’s chat about OT and veterans with PTSD… |
| Richardsblister |
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Hi to all, fire away when you are ready – please excuse the pun #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Has everyone seen Karen’s post? http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL #OTalk |
| Keeper85 |
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#otalk hi all! I’m awake!! |
| BillWongOT |
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My only significant experiences with veterans were when I was worshipping with them at my church. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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We will nitter natter fir a few mins while you all have a chance to read over then ask Karen any questions you have…. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister From a brief look at the website, I’m thinking this isn’t the kind of work a new graduate could do..? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Great to see you at #otalk @Keeper85 |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@MissHeldi hello Heldi great to have you join us. #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 enjoy the lemonade…. ear plugs? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: While you are all waiting for kick off take a look at http://t.co/DQqi8slkMS #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@_beckyOT good evening Becky. #OTalk |
| MaryBoothOT |
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Here sorry later #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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seems to be a server issue this on let me refresh #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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Hello everyone #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JuliaHelenOT glad you find the topic of interest. #otalk |
| OTprocess |
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@richardsblister what are common occupational performance issues for your clients?#Otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister that’s encouraging (MOD work appears to require band 6/7) #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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Here sorry I’m late #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@tabbycats4 @afrightfulfiend @shhhsharn @SophAlexanderOT @LithiumLibGirl no spoilers please. 😦 Ive had to choose btwn #gbbo & #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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Does military OT’s in the UK have to go through specific trainings/education? I know the US has an OTD program 4 army OT’s. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Don’t let being newly qualified put you off applying to work with veterans, passion over-rules experience in my humble opinion #OTalk |
| mksiddiqee |
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RT @Dai2584: Hello everyone #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Keeper85 yay for the early bird! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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are you all still here? #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Dai2584 evening David. #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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Perhaps a bit of obvious Q @RichardsBlister, but how does your day-to-day work differ from a CBT therapist’s? #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister yes we are #OTalk are you? |
| CroftVictoria |
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Watching the chat from Northern Ireland #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Fascinating to follow @armyOTguy – interesting to see his varied role with veterans #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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I visited Combat Stress, and found the atmosphere very welcoming and calming. Also impressed by resources 🙂 #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now and future #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@CroftVictoria great to have you join us from over the water #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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joining you a little later…bedtime routine interfering again! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Am I right in thinking that historically veterans have been accused of being ‘weak’ if they disclose any mental health difficulties? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk yes helen, this just has to be refreshed now and then #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| danielleb_90 |
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@OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi I saw PTSD more in community rather than in an acute setting. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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#otalk In Wales if vets just have PTSD they go to primary MH veterans service. If they have SMI also they will come to the CMHT. rest of UK? |
| Richardsblister |
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@bobcollinsOT Yes bob, one of the reasons they delay in getting help, but this is getting less and less thank goodness #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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many veteran organisations in my local area don’t have ahp as part of team…seems a big miss to me #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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RT @MissHeldi: Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Vets come to combat stress from all over UK, we deliver a unique inpatient service with amazingly positive results #OTalk |
| BillWongOT |
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What are the common assessments you have used for this population? #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@peapodicus yes what a missed opportunity! seems obvious that active duty could disrupt/impact on occupation? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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That is a real shame! @peapodicus #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Currently OSA and MOHOST – only because they currently fit, but maybe in the future recovery star, but need our own #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Dai2584 in the northeast Darlington mh health hospital has the contract for MOD they have their own ward, #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi how did you make sense of this difference? (I’ve seen plenty of non-combat PTSD in inpatient) #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister @BillWongOT I wonder if there will be a veteran-specific version of the Recovery Star, as the Star grows #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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I have met vets in CMHT and MH In-patient unit. Combat Stress services involved #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 not to mention life changing physical and mental experiences…not sure how team make up was decided #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister my friends who are veterans have spoken about very real struggles re-adjusting to “civvy street” #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria we do refer back out into the community, if we can! many are successful once we have cleared the pathway #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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What is the OSA? @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 they will clarissa – communication between civvies and veterans is different, they think very black and white #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@BoothRach #otalk in wales we have a primary care All wales service, 8 session cbt type thing or normal MH service. no vet rehab/ wards |
| Richardsblister |
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@_beckyOT @BillWongOT Occupational Self Assessment – based on MOHO #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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do combat stress or similar employ ahps elsewhere in UK? #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@_beckyOT @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #otalk occupational self assessment |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Seen PTSD symptoms in non-combat but unless the ind is v suicidal, usually no admission. |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorders. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus we have 3 locations, Scotland, Leatherhead in Surrey and Shropshire #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: @BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@peapodicus try to remember #OTalk so all can see your tweets. |
| Richardsblister |
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The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: was discussing this today with friend, her relative thought if he admitted it then would ruin chance of promotion… |
| BillWongOT |
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This is another app I have come across on PTSD. https://t.co/zoIqh0qQrB #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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When I visited Combat Stress, noticed how familiar @RichardsBlister was with organisational culture/language – important! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this issue too #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volition |
| ivan_goma |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this is… |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister it does help to have knowledge of the culture, you gain credibility if you “get it” #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister all have ot? #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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I am seeing that as combat PTSD isn’t often seen in inpt, staff struggles to differentiate between aggression/distress sources. #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volit… |
| Dai2584 |
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RT @BillWongOT: This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@clissa89 @Richardsblister I’ve family members in RAF and can’t understand a word they are talking about when they get onto work! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 part of my role is to show them they do still have those skills by using meaningful occupation as a guide #OTalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Yes, I think Scotland is our closest location. @Richardsblister Can Police Officers go there too? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria No victoria, on ex service personnel – Hollybush House in Ayrshire covers scotland #OTalk |
| danielleb_90 |
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RT @MissHeldi: @clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipola… |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi THe aggression label is really just that, with our programme many learn how to manage this more effectively #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister what kind input do you get from the MOD? #otalk |
| pluminmouth |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: @pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk.” @mrssculduggery , FYI 🙂 |
| BillWongOT |
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This is relevant for today’s #otalk http://t.co/Q548Cw3w8V |
| Richardsblister |
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There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats really (grin) #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats … |
| BoothRach |
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@MissHeldi i guess thats why there should be specialist wards for MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT ~We work alongside the MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @MissHeldi Yes, I started life on acute and I would be given the vets because i could communicate with them #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: old fashioned and unhelpful. any opportunity to do work directly with army, mental wellbeing/recovery etc? |
| Dai2584 |
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@MissHeldi #otalk we have that problem in prison i.e. aggression/ anxiety where then question PTSD with Vets |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I so wish, but they are probably too busy defending our freedom to worry about what may happen to them #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus not just caution for blocking promotion. Self-ID as having #PTSD of any sort can endanger employment #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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aggression comes from their training to react, which is how we explain it to them. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat ha…hmm yes #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I find talking to the employers really helps them understand and to put things in place #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did?… |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk Ive still got the self control in that regard but Ive lost my aggression. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am talking more to police, asking them to find out if the person they have in custody is a vet..and then to ascertain if poss ptsd #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat yes and of course many other areas of life and function #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Dai2584 would you say that is an advantage to retain the self control? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 a large part of our cohorts also report similar – we talk about how to put coping mechanisms in place #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister On the other hand, I’ve met some of the most lovely characters with many talents, whether it’s cooking or art. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat #otalk so possibly more senior ranking soldiers masking trauma whilst dealing with more trauma.. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, brilliant workers #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@rebexxa dont forget you #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister Do you have a lot of contact with other services like police etc? Does this help support vets? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat senior ranks do suffer, but not so many #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk where ever I can, with who ever I can, I cannot spread the word enough, they cannot help getting ptsd, its a process fail #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk the vets in prison I work with, I try and remind them on self control. talk about shared experiance |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 I find that getting them to assess the situation, will they still be angry about this in 6 months, they normally laugh…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat why do you think that is #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk I agree it’s one of the issues: communication. There’s also lack of general awareness re PTSD. |
| Dai2584 |
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@Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister #OTalk Could not agree more! |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, br… |
| Helen_otuk |
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Yay for OT! RT @Dai2584: @Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @Helen_otuk I have said to 3 of my veterans, they would make great OT’s, one has taken me up on the offer! #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 Maybe you could get David to talk to them too? #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @BoothRach PTSD has been reclassified – amygdala does not talk to hippocampus…. #OTalk |
| Rossifumiuk |
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#OTalk The senior rank and PTSD is an interesting subject that links into resilience. Why do some get PTSD and others do not. Its facinating |
| rebexxa |
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#otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of humour. |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh if you are there, you can chip in!!! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat I hear clients tell me reactions vary between over-sympathy and confusion on how to respond #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JulieHughes2013 good evening Julie. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh is my trusted colleague and confident folks pls make him welcome #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @rebexxa: #otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of … |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Rossifumiuk Hi David, great to have you with us #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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yay RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| BoothRach |
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RT @JulieHughes2013: hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @rebexxa @BoothRach it is the dark humour that keeps them going – I also have that dark humour, its inherited lol #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @JulieHughes2013 I think the jury is still out on that one, you need to process trauma, properly…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister hi david #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I think that ‘dark’ humour is present in many different ‘walks of life’ not jsut vets? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you have processed #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk i guess many veterans particularly may feel a civilian couldn’t understand? |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk probably, some surgeons I know also have that humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat they do initially, but we show them that they can with effective communication #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat more senior …more resilience? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Most soliders ok with civvies. As long as you are good at what u do. |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required… |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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“@rebexxa: @Richardsblister @BoothRach iv not encounterd the humour anywhere else” #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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I can’t speak for David, but I have never had a problem with our veterans as far as getting along is concerned. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk that would rule me our fascinating area of work |
| Helen_otuk |
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Top tip! RT @Richardsblister: @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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@Richardsblister #Otalk I like this concept of processing and recalling, or not, difficult sensations. |
| bobcollinsOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you hav… |
| Richardsblister |
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When a friend of mine was paralysed after an rta, I said that it was pointless taking her for a drink as she was already legless! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Thier standards are very high. I found civvie st hard in that regard |
| Richardsblister |
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She roared with laughter saying “only Karen would get away with that one” that is dark humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat I too felt an alien when we came back from Rheindahlen! as a child #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat do you think your background is a large part of why you ‘get it’? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Veterans are not aliens, but they do think differently, they do have strong work ethics, ideal to return to work when recovered #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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@Richardblister #OTalk any link between sensory processing disorder and PTSD? |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk 😉 |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister a familiar concept from working in forensic #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat me personally, yes, I always wondered why my approach worked in acute #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JulieHughes2013 @Richardblister that is Davids passion…. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat That isn’t to say don’t let that put you off – I work with civvies #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat Yes. where I come in is telling them that each person has his/her own experience. So need to communicate #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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anyone thinking of working with vets, then ask to spend a day shadowing #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Well time os flying past this evening… 10 minute warning. Any last burning questions for @Richardsblister ? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Helen_otuk @Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat i work people who are dealing with trauma in a diff way #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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whoa! that is quick – get out the shepherds crook. #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat @Richardsblister #OTalk Any additional resources to google/links? |
| Richardsblister |
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If anyone thinks of any burning questions after we finish, please do email me at work – I am happy to answer #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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We have lots of links to articles, research etc at work – happy to share #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Don’t forget I will not post the blog transcript for 24hrs so you can keep adding thoughts and reflections. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk does using MOHO help vets understand difficulties? |
| clissa89 |
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Is it worth signposting people to the FB group as well if they’re interested in veteran mental health? #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #O… |
| Helen_otuk |
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You will! RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
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@Dai2584 Yes especially in relation to functioning on a daily level, motivation, communication, processing….. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 good idea clarissa – Military 4 OT great resource for facebook fans #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 #otalk that would be helpful |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk https://t.co/uCMrBMveD6 |
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The time has gone so quickly! I could tell you so much more…but please do join the FB page and jump right in – David is ace too #OTalk |
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Ok last 5 mins, what are your take away thoughts? Actions? Goals? Learning points? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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we have recently posted kawa river flow for a veteran too #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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thanks for the chat interesting area of work, sounds like your making a positive impact! good luck with it all 🙂 #otalk @Richardsblister |
| Dai2584 |
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The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anyway. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus thank you, i love my job, i love my veterans, they gave so much, now its my turn to pay them back #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 would love too!! could i share with our vets? #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@OTalk_Occhat more research and looking for shadowing opportunities for me, thank you @Richardsblister and others for tonight #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT @OTalk_Occhat Dont ever give up, it will change your life! #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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Thank you great #OTalk tonight |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk thank you. 🙂 |
| Richardsblister |
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You are all very very welcome – my vets will be overjoyed that someone cares! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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p.s. you can also find me on linkedin under Karen Miles #OTalk |
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Thank you so much to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening, excellent topic and really busy chat! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk . yeah. it only short though. |
| Richardsblister |
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BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 feel free to talk via linkedin David #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Thank you Helen OTUK for holding my hand and talking me into this, its been fantastic! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat thank you both for facilitating tonight’s chat! #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| MissHeldi |
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@Dai2584 #OTalk Thanks for posting this. Whether political or not, it’s always useful to read personal experiences to get a realistic pic. |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat xxxx speak soon Clarissa xxxx #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I am so glad you did. Really great topic. Thank you. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister you’ve already got one at least 😉 #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria xx thanks #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Excellent, we are pleased. RT @CroftVictoria: Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 you are welcome, so glad you made it! #OTalk |
| effnol |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly.â€@_rehabilitate |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| DrWMB |
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“@Richardsblister: Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk†great work happening |
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RT @clissa89: #OTuesday I’ve written a quick blog post in preparation for tonight’s #OTalk “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” http://t.… |
| tylyrurap |
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#OTalk #CongestiveHeartFailure http://t.co/Qyl4PsgWPX In the #BananaRepublic of America, financial crimes go uninvestigated, unindicted |
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What was s the subject of #OTalk yesterday? So busy we missed it! |
| sarahahpmh |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 An infomative blog David, your own veteran experience will give OT new perspectives #otalk |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 Beginning new work here veterans and with two OT veterans in team, we are lucky #OTalk. |
| CPDonline |
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Always enjoy #Otalk . Would like to contribute more… |
| BillWongOT |
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Hello everyone. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Please be mindful of your code of ethics / confidentiality and professionalism as we kick off this evenings #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am not a natural tweeter so please be patient with my answers….but i do type quickly! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Hi Bill, we meet again! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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Hi everyone! Tweeting from a noisy pub tonight, with an ice cold lemonade in hand and large candle in front of me. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk would like to say a big hello and thank you to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening. OT and veterans with PTSD. Say hi to Karen. |
| Richardsblister |
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Ok, I am ready this end, if I go eek, its because of the spider in the room! my real room! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 no change there then Clarissa xx #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Good Evening #OTalk looking forward to an interesting chat….. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister take care…. #OTalk those spider are leggy! |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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Hello All, I’m extremely interested in today’s topic and hope to learn from your collective wisdom! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Good evening all #otalk looking forward to tonight’s chat about OT and veterans with PTSD… |
| Richardsblister |
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Hi to all, fire away when you are ready – please excuse the pun #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Has everyone seen Karen’s post? http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL #OTalk |
| Keeper85 |
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#otalk hi all! I’m awake!! |
| BillWongOT |
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My only significant experiences with veterans were when I was worshipping with them at my church. #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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We will nitter natter fir a few mins while you all have a chance to read over then ask Karen any questions you have…. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister From a brief look at the website, I’m thinking this isn’t the kind of work a new graduate could do..? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Great to see you at #otalk @Keeper85 |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@MissHeldi hello Heldi great to have you join us. #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 enjoy the lemonade…. ear plugs? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: While you are all waiting for kick off take a look at http://t.co/DQqi8slkMS #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@_beckyOT good evening Becky. #OTalk |
| MaryBoothOT |
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Here sorry later #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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seems to be a server issue this on let me refresh #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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Hello everyone #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JuliaHelenOT glad you find the topic of interest. #otalk |
| OTprocess |
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@richardsblister what are common occupational performance issues for your clients?#Otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister that’s encouraging (MOD work appears to require band 6/7) #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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Here sorry I’m late #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@tabbycats4 @afrightfulfiend @shhhsharn @SophAlexanderOT @LithiumLibGirl no spoilers please. 😦 Ive had to choose btwn #gbbo & #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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Does military OT’s in the UK have to go through specific trainings/education? I know the US has an OTD program 4 army OT’s. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Don’t let being newly qualified put you off applying to work with veterans, passion over-rules experience in my humble opinion #OTalk |
| mksiddiqee |
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RT @Dai2584: Hello everyone #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @JuliaHelenOT not at all I employed a new graduate, it was his passion that got him the job #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Keeper85 yay for the early bird! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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are you all still here? #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Dai2584 evening David. #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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Perhaps a bit of obvious Q @RichardsBlister, but how does your day-to-day work differ from a CBT therapist’s? #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister yes we are #OTalk are you? |
| CroftVictoria |
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Watching the chat from Northern Ireland #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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Fascinating to follow @armyOTguy – interesting to see his varied role with veterans #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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I visited Combat Stress, and found the atmosphere very welcoming and calming. Also impressed by resources 🙂 #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now and future #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@CroftVictoria great to have you join us from over the water #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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joining you a little later…bedtime routine interfering again! #otalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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Am I right in thinking that historically veterans have been accused of being ‘weak’ if they disclose any mental health difficulties? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk yes helen, this just has to be refreshed now and then #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| danielleb_90 |
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@OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi I saw PTSD more in community rather than in an acute setting. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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#otalk In Wales if vets just have PTSD they go to primary MH veterans service. If they have SMI also they will come to the CMHT. rest of UK? |
| Richardsblister |
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@bobcollinsOT Yes bob, one of the reasons they delay in getting help, but this is getting less and less thank goodness #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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many veteran organisations in my local area don’t have ahp as part of team…seems a big miss to me #otalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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RT @MissHeldi: Great written piece! Are there any other useful assessment/intervention tools used with this client group? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Vets come to combat stress from all over UK, we deliver a unique inpatient service with amazingly positive results #OTalk |
| BillWongOT |
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What are the common assessments you have used for this population? #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@peapodicus yes what a missed opportunity! seems obvious that active duty could disrupt/impact on occupation? #otalk |
| _beckyOT |
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That is a real shame! @peapodicus #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT Currently OSA and MOHOST – only because they currently fit, but maybe in the future recovery star, but need our own #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Dai2584 in the northeast Darlington mh health hospital has the contract for MOD they have their own ward, #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat @MissHeldi how did you make sense of this difference? (I’ve seen plenty of non-combat PTSD in inpatient) #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister @BillWongOT I wonder if there will be a veteran-specific version of the Recovery Star, as the Star grows #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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I have met vets in CMHT and MH In-patient unit. Combat Stress services involved #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 not to mention life changing physical and mental experiences…not sure how team make up was decided #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@Richardsblister my friends who are veterans have spoken about very real struggles re-adjusting to “civvy street” #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria we do refer back out into the community, if we can! many are successful once we have cleared the pathway #OTalk |
| _beckyOT |
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What is the OSA? @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 they will clarissa – communication between civvies and veterans is different, they think very black and white #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@BoothRach #otalk in wales we have a primary care All wales service, 8 session cbt type thing or normal MH service. no vet rehab/ wards |
| Richardsblister |
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@_beckyOT @BillWongOT Occupational Self Assessment – based on MOHO #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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do combat stress or similar employ ahps elsewhere in UK? #otalk |
| BillWongOT |
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This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@_beckyOT @Richardsblister @BillWongOT #otalk occupational self assessment |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Seen PTSD symptoms in non-combat but unless the ind is v suicidal, usually no admission. |
| Richardsblister |
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@BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipolar disorders. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus we have 3 locations, Scotland, Leatherhead in Surrey and Shropshire #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: @BillWongOT lots of apps around – another called Life Armor is also good, UK veterans aren’t keen on US versions #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@peapodicus try to remember #OTalk so all can see your tweets. |
| Richardsblister |
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The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: was discussing this today with friend, her relative thought if he admitted it then would ruin chance of promotion… |
| BillWongOT |
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This is another app I have come across on PTSD. https://t.co/zoIqh0qQrB #otalk |
| clissa89 |
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When I visited Combat Stress, noticed how familiar @RichardsBlister was with organisational culture/language – important! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this issue too #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Richardsblister: The NHS also has a veteran network – they are on the increase #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volition |
| ivan_goma |
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RT @Richardsblister: @clissa89 @RichardsBlister We are very much about recovery, we of course challenge thinking, but we concentrate on now… |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus and that unfortunately is the stigma attached to ptsd – i do talks with companies on this is… |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister it does help to have knowledge of the culture, you gain credibility if you “get it” #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister all have ot? #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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I am seeing that as combat PTSD isn’t often seen in inpt, staff struggles to differentiate between aggression/distress sources. #OTalk |
| LynneBowers2 |
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RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister #otalk I know my mates struggly to identify skills from service that can be used in civvie street. poor volit… |
| Dai2584 |
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RT @BillWongOT: This is an app I have come across from Pinterest about PTSD. https://t.co/gMWbH5RYWg #otalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@clissa89 @Richardsblister I’ve family members in RAF and can’t understand a word they are talking about when they get onto work! #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 part of my role is to show them they do still have those skills by using meaningful occupation as a guide #OTalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Yes, I think Scotland is our closest location. @Richardsblister Can Police Officers go there too? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria No victoria, on ex service personnel – Hollybush House in Ayrshire covers scotland #OTalk |
| danielleb_90 |
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RT @MissHeldi: @clissa89 @danielleb_90 @OTalk_Occhat #OTalk Also statistically have much! more inds diagnosed with schizophrenia and bipola… |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi THe aggression label is really just that, with our programme many learn how to manage this more effectively #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Richardsblister what kind input do you get from the MOD? #otalk |
| pluminmouth |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: @pluminmouth every Tuesday at 8pm is #OTalk.” @mrssculduggery , FYI 🙂 |
| BillWongOT |
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This is relevant for today’s #otalk http://t.co/Q548Cw3w8V |
| Richardsblister |
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There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats really (grin) #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: There is a video on Youtube called not in the forces now – it may explain the aggression side, they are all pussycats … |
| BoothRach |
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@MissHeldi i guess thats why there should be specialist wards for MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT ~We work alongside the MOD #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @MissHeldi Yes, I started life on acute and I would be given the vets because i could communicate with them #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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#OTalk RT @peapodicus: old fashioned and unhelpful. any opportunity to do work directly with army, mental wellbeing/recovery etc? |
| Dai2584 |
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@MissHeldi #otalk we have that problem in prison i.e. aggression/ anxiety where then question PTSD with Vets |
| Richardsblister |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I so wish, but they are probably too busy defending our freedom to worry about what may happen to them #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus not just caution for blocking promotion. Self-ID as having #PTSD of any sort can endanger employment #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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aggression comes from their training to react, which is how we explain it to them. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat ha…hmm yes #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat @peapodicus I find talking to the employers really helps them understand and to put things in place #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: You and I would automatically run away from a man charging at you with a bayonet …….what would happen if they did?… |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk Ive still got the self control in that regard but Ive lost my aggression. |
| Richardsblister |
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I am talking more to police, asking them to find out if the person they have in custody is a vet..and then to ascertain if poss ptsd #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat yes and of course many other areas of life and function #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Dai2584 would you say that is an advantage to retain the self control? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 a large part of our cohorts also report similar – we talk about how to put coping mechanisms in place #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister On the other hand, I’ve met some of the most lovely characters with many talents, whether it’s cooking or art. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat #otalk so possibly more senior ranking soldiers masking trauma whilst dealing with more trauma.. |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, brilliant workers #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@rebexxa dont forget you #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister Do you have a lot of contact with other services like police etc? Does this help support vets? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat senior ranks do suffer, but not so many #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk where ever I can, with who ever I can, I cannot spread the word enough, they cannot help getting ptsd, its a process fail #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk the vets in prison I work with, I try and remind them on self control. talk about shared experiance |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 I find that getting them to assess the situation, will they still be angry about this in 6 months, they normally laugh…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat why do you think that is #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk I agree it’s one of the issues: communication. There’s also lack of general awareness re PTSD. |
| Dai2584 |
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@Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister #OTalk Could not agree more! |
| MissHeldi |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi our veterans are awesome individuals, i feel humbled working with them, artists, poets, problem solvers, br… |
| Helen_otuk |
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Yay for OT! RT @Dai2584: @Helen_otuk In life in general. help me to retrain to be an OT #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @Helen_otuk I have said to 3 of my veterans, they would make great OT’s, one has taken me up on the offer! #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 Maybe you could get David to talk to them too? #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @BoothRach PTSD has been reclassified – amygdala does not talk to hippocampus…. #OTalk |
| Rossifumiuk |
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#OTalk The senior rank and PTSD is an interesting subject that links into resilience. Why do some get PTSD and others do not. Its facinating |
| rebexxa |
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#otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of humour. |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh if you are there, you can chip in!!! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat I hear clients tell me reactions vary between over-sympathy and confusion on how to respond #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@JulieHughes2013 good evening Julie. #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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David Murtagh is my trusted colleague and confident folks pls make him welcome #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @rebexxa: #otalk @BoothRach as a soldier you are trained not to be weak, as some will know they are described as having a sick sense of … |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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@Rossifumiuk Hi David, great to have you with us #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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yay RT @Dai2584: @Richardsblister @Helen_otuk #otalk. We fab. I should set up Vets who become OT’ s club. we very good at ironing too 🙂 |
| BoothRach |
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RT @JulieHughes2013: hi all #OTalk is it true that it is now considered harmful to do debrief counselling soon after the event? |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @rebexxa @BoothRach it is the dark humour that keeps them going – I also have that dark humour, its inherited lol #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@BoothRach @JulieHughes2013 I think the jury is still out on that one, you need to process trauma, properly…. #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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@Richardsblister hi david #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I think that ‘dark’ humour is present in many different ‘walks of life’ not jsut vets? #otalk |
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eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you have processed #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk i guess many veterans particularly may feel a civilian couldn’t understand? |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk probably, some surgeons I know also have that humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat they do initially, but we show them that they can with effective communication #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister @OTalk_Occhat more senior …more resilience? #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Most soliders ok with civvies. As long as you are good at what u do. |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @Rossifumiuk @OTalk_Occhat could be that they have more experience, who knows yet, more research required… |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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“@rebexxa: @Richardsblister @BoothRach iv not encounterd the humour anywhere else” #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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I can’t speak for David, but I have never had a problem with our veterans as far as getting along is concerned. #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk that would rule me our fascinating area of work |
| Helen_otuk |
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Top tip! RT @Richardsblister: @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat and never ever be late lol #OTalk |
| bobcollinsOT |
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@Richardsblister #Otalk I like this concept of processing and recalling, or not, difficult sensations. |
| bobcollinsOT |
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RT @Richardsblister: eg: can you remember taking your driving test? Can you recreate all those sensations right now? if you can’t you hav… |
| Richardsblister |
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When a friend of mine was paralysed after an rta, I said that it was pointless taking her for a drink as she was already legless! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat #otalk Thier standards are very high. I found civvie st hard in that regard |
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She roared with laughter saying “only Karen would get away with that one” that is dark humour #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat I too felt an alien when we came back from Rheindahlen! as a child #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat do you think your background is a large part of why you ‘get it’? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Veterans are not aliens, but they do think differently, they do have strong work ethics, ideal to return to work when recovered #OTalk |
| JulieHughes2013 |
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@Richardblister #OTalk any link between sensory processing disorder and PTSD? |
| MissHeldi |
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@Richardsblister @BoothRach #OTalk 😉 |
| peapodicus |
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@Richardsblister a familiar concept from working in forensic #otalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat me personally, yes, I always wondered why my approach worked in acute #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@JulieHughes2013 @Richardblister that is Davids passion…. #OTalk |
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@Helen_otuk @Dai2584 @peapodicus @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat That isn’t to say don’t let that put you off – I work with civvies #OTalk |
| HarryStarkPhD |
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@peapodicus @OTalk_Occhat Yes. where I come in is telling them that each person has his/her own experience. So need to communicate #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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anyone thinking of working with vets, then ask to spend a day shadowing #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Well time os flying past this evening… 10 minute warning. Any last burning questions for @Richardsblister ? #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@Helen_otuk @Richardsblister @Dai2584 @HarryStarkPhD @OTalk_Occhat i work people who are dealing with trauma in a diff way #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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whoa! that is quick – get out the shepherds crook. #OTalk |
| MissHeldi |
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@OTalk_Occhat @Richardsblister #OTalk Any additional resources to google/links? |
| Richardsblister |
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If anyone thinks of any burning questions after we finish, please do email me at work – I am happy to answer #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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We have lots of links to articles, research etc at work – happy to share #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Don’t forget I will not post the blog transcript for 24hrs so you can keep adding thoughts and reflections. #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk does using MOHO help vets understand difficulties? |
| clissa89 |
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Is it worth signposting people to the FB group as well if they’re interested in veteran mental health? #otalk |
| BoothRach |
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RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi @OTalk_Occhat if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #O… |
| Helen_otuk |
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You will! RT @Richardsblister: @MissHeldi if you put in a search for karen miles specialist OT combat stress, you may get some more! #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 Yes especially in relation to functioning on a daily level, motivation, communication, processing….. #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 good idea clarissa – Military 4 OT great resource for facebook fans #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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@clissa89 #otalk that would be helpful |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: @peapodicus @clissa89 Clarissa can you post the link as you are a techy #OTalk https://t.co/uCMrBMveD6 |
| Richardsblister |
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The time has gone so quickly! I could tell you so much more…but please do join the FB page and jump right in – David is ace too #OTalk |
| OTalk_Occhat |
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Ok last 5 mins, what are your take away thoughts? Actions? Goals? Learning points? #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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we have recently posted kawa river flow for a veteran too #OTalk |
| peapodicus |
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thanks for the chat interesting area of work, sounds like your making a positive impact! good luck with it all 🙂 #otalk @Richardsblister |
| Dai2584 |
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The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anyway. |
| Richardsblister |
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@peapodicus thank you, i love my job, i love my veterans, they gave so much, now its my turn to pay them back #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 would love too!! could i share with our vets? #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@OTalk_Occhat more research and looking for shadowing opportunities for me, thank you @Richardsblister and others for tonight #otalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| Richardsblister |
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@JuliaHelenOT @OTalk_Occhat Dont ever give up, it will change your life! #OTalk |
| BoothRach |
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Thank you great #OTalk tonight |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk thank you. 🙂 |
| Richardsblister |
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You are all very very welcome – my vets will be overjoyed that someone cares! #OTalk |
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p.s. you can also find me on linkedin under Karen Miles #OTalk |
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Thank you so much to @Richardsblister for hosting this evening, excellent topic and really busy chat! #OTalk |
| Dai2584 |
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@Richardsblister #otalk . yeah. it only short though. |
| Richardsblister |
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BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@Dai2584 feel free to talk via linkedin David #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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RT @Richardsblister: BBC 1 now Help for a hero? how apt #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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Thank you Helen OTUK for holding my hand and talking me into this, its been fantastic! #OTalk |
| clissa89 |
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@RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat thank you both for facilitating tonight’s chat! #otalk |
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#OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| MissHeldi |
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@Dai2584 #OTalk Thanks for posting this. Whether political or not, it’s always useful to read personal experiences to get a realistic pic. |
| Richardsblister |
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@clissa89 @RichardsBlister @OTalk_Occhat xxxx speak soon Clarissa xxxx #OTalk |
| Helen_otuk |
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@Richardsblister I am so glad you did. Really great topic. Thank you. #OTalk |
| JuliaHelenOT |
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@Rossifumiuk @Richardsblister you’ve already got one at least 😉 #otalk |
| CroftVictoria |
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Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
| Richardsblister |
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@CroftVictoria xx thanks #OTalk |
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Excellent, we are pleased. RT @CroftVictoria: Thoroughly enjoyed #OTalk |
| effnol |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly. |
| Helen_otuk |
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@clissa89 you are welcome, so glad you made it! #OTalk |
| effnol |
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“@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk Next week same time same place… we are chatting vocational rehab! Yay, blog post to follow shortly.â€@_rehabilitate |
| DrWMB |
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RT @OTalk_Occhat: Just before we start #OTalk this evening here is the intro from @Richardsblister http://t.co/5H42dKnuuL |
| DrWMB |
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“@Richardsblister: Many of our vets are returning to work, which is why OT is so important #OTalk†great work happening |
| lauravassallo |
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RT @clissa89: #OTuesday I’ve written a quick blog post in preparation for tonight’s #OTalk “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” http://t.… |
| tylyrurap |
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#OTalk #CongestiveHeartFailure http://t.co/Qyl4PsgWPX In the #BananaRepublic of America, financial crimes go uninvestigated, unindicted |
| CPDonline |
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What was s the subject of #OTalk yesterday? So busy we missed it! |
| sarahahpmh |
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RT @Dai2584: The Transition from Soldier to Civilian http://t.co/ytqxkozcIg #otalk my blog. its a bit political lol .but have a read anywa… |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 An infomative blog David, your own veteran experience will give OT new perspectives #otalk |
| sarahahpmh |
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@Dai2584 Beginning new work here veterans and with two OT veterans in team, we are lucky #OTalk. |
| CPDonline |
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Always enjoy #Otalk . Would like to contribute more… |
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