#OTalk Tuesday 1 October 2013 – “HCPC, CPD and Registration

HCPC Audit – Special OTalk

Date:  01/10/2013  Host: @The_HCPC

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Transcript #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD)

Hi everyone  -hope you enjoyed the TRAMm talk last night, huge thanks to the TRAMm team for agreeing to host. I started to track my CPD Activities from the summer last night and realised why I’m so tired ;o)

You can find the original blog post here.

A link to a storify of the chat here.

And the healthcare hashtags transcript here – also copied below.

 

BAOTCOT
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion We are hosting #otalk Tuesday 24/9/13. For some background have a look at http://t.co/ILquoHJ7lm

TRAMMCPD
@BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion @NW_BAOT@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/RPNtr6J1z4

kirstyes
@Angiecog Hi Angela. Great to see you here. A good hashtag to look out for is #otalk

BAOTNYRegion
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion @NW_BAOT@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/RPN…

emerging2OT
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BAOTCOT @BAOTNYRegion @NW_BAOT@OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/RPN…

pd2ot
@tabbycats4 MT”@OTalk_Occhat: Transcript of @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” is now available: http://t.co/WLG5FnZZeK

clissa89
Final #OTuesday in my current post (acute inpatient #mentalhealth). No #OTalk or #GBBO for me tonight, I’m clothes-swapping! #transition

family_success
RT @clissa89: Final #OTuesday in my current post (acute inpatient #mentalhealth). No #OTalk or #GBBO for me tonight, I’m clothes-swapping! …

clissa89
Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsangsusie

Symbolic_Life
RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa

clissa89
“Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t.co/2Svylv4smM

IamCarrieeeeee
RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t…

BoothRach
Having just read @TRAMMCPD blog for tonight’s #otalk I’m going to join in tonight #CPD

TRAMMCPD
RT @BoothRach: Having just read @TRAMMCPD blog for tonight’s #otalk I’m going to join in tonight #CPD

OTalk_Occhat
Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P

lapsangsusie
RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa

lapsangsusie
So I did some writing last week “@OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/KQpiyOWhaS”

BoothRach
#otalk about #CPD http://t.co/qSNYYePqi9 @MaryBoothOT @studentMHOT @1804lexi @samuel27elliott @OTEmma @twinkle4me @DawnFraser_OT

emerging2OT
RT @OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P

OTalk_Occhat
RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa

emerging2OT
RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa

OTSM2011
RT @BoothRach: Having just read @TRAMMCPD blog for tonight’s #otalk I’m going to join in tonight #CPD

OTalk_Occhat
RT @lapsangsusie: So I did some writing last week “@OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http…

Saraswati_dee
RT @OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P

OTalk_Occhat
@BillWongOT hi Bill, today’s #OTalk topic is the @TRAMMCPD model #OTuesday

OTalk_Occhat
@BillWongOT hi Bill, today’s #OTalk topic is the @TRAMMCPD model #OTuesday (CS)

SullivanTheresa
#OT6140 When OT Goes Wrong… An #OTalk twitter chat summary.. http://t.co/wceEJj4fXa

SullivanTheresa
#OT6140 RT @OTalk_Occhat 11m Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/vFnIW5LNfc

family_success
RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t…

family_success
RT @OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http://t.co/Ekq7Ch0B9P

BoothRach
Just settled in to my hotel, and walked round to a place called the waterline, for my tea. All alone in newcastle

kirstyes
RT @OTalk_Occhat: @BillWongOT hi Bill, today’s #OTalk topic is the @TRAMMCPD model #OTuesday (CS)

MaryBoothOT
RT @BoothRach: #otalk about #CPD http://t.co/qSNYYePqi9 @MaryBoothOT @studentMHOT @1804lexi @samuel27elliott @OTEmma @twinkle4me @DawnFrase

TRAMMCPD
Off to make a cuppa ready for #OTalk

OTprocess
RT @clissa89: Thought-provoking reading this #OTuesday: http://t.co/MB16OQFX7x responses to last week’s #OTalk from @acarerseyes and @lapsa

JeSuisLucie
#GBBO set to record, flapjacks in the oven, and cuppa in hand. Ready for #OTalk 🙂

merrolee
#OTalk morning all from NZ

BAOTNYRegion
The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk

merrolee
#OTalk hello

BoothRach
The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk

gillyflower78
RT @BoothRach: The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk

merrolee
#OTalk morning all from New Zealand my tweets slow to appear today!!!

kirstyes
.@merrolee hi great to see you here. We get going in 4 minutes. #otalk

kirstyes
@BoothRach: The world federation of #OT has a twitter account follow them @thewfot #otgeek #otalk” how did I not know this?

OTalk_Occhat
#OTalk on @TRAMMCPD model starts in 3 minutes. http://t.co/vzlsHgT4PK follow link to find out CPD style. I’ll be supporting on @kirstyes

merrolee
RT @kirstyes: .@merrolee hi great to see you here. We get going in 4 minutes. #otalk

BillWongOT
pre-tweeting again for #otalk again today. 😦 Apparently it will be this way until end of 2013 at least. Missing everyone!

kirstyes
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk on @TRAMMCPD model starts in 3 minutes. http://t.co/vzlsHgT4PK follow link to find out CPD style. I’ll be support…

BillWongOT
One thing I find as a practitioner now, it’s much harder to keep up with CPD. 1/2 #otalk

kirstyes
Evening all – who’s here for #otalk? @TRAMMCPD – I know you have a question to kick things off?

GillyGorry
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk on @TRAMMCPD model starts in 3 minutes. http://t.co/vzlsHgT4PK follow link to find out CPD style. I’ll be support…

TRAMMCPD
#otalk welcome all. What’s your CPD style?

merrolee
@BillWongOT #OTalk gd point but do reflect on how u define cpd. As new practitioner yr learning curve is huge

eileenhegarty7
I’m here although could be lurking a lot tonight after my second day of new job #otalk

GillyGorry
@merrolee hello 🙂 great to have you 🙂 #otalk

merrolee
@GillyGorry #OTalk for little while.. Have to leave for work soon

BillWongOT
As a new practitioner, I am spending more time prepping for clients I am getting to know than CPD. 2/2 #otalk

GillyGorry
@kirstyes @TRAMMCPD looking forward to tonight. Saw tramm presented at NWBAOT in 2012 like the sound of it #otalk

gillyflower78
@TRAMMCPD Used to be sit-on-the-fence cowboy style. But now I’m in 3rdyr I’ve become pro-active! #loveTRAMm #otalk

eileenhegarty7
Up to now my CPD style has been do a bit of everything – no real plan #otalk

kirstyes
.@TRAMMCPD Think my students (any here?) will laugh when I admit although like to think I’m strategic and planned- bull in china shop #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@gillyflower78 #otalk, that’s great to hear. Are you using the Tracker and Trail as well?

Sasa_Radic
I would like to know more about TRAMm as CPD is new in Croatia #OTalk

Helen_otuk
Hi #otalk trying to follow from phone this eve….

kirstyes
RT @merrolee: @BillWongOT #OTalk gd point but do reflect on how u define cpd. As new practitioner yr learning curve is huge

LAThompsonOT
@clissa89 @acarerseyes @lapsangsusie Valuable to me as a professional! Thanks for sharing #OTalk

GillyGorry
@TRAMMCPD What a good question- a little chaotic with a pinch of creativity and aspiring to be more organised… I do, do lots of it #otalk

kirstyes
@eileenhegarty7 Evening – hope it’s going well #OTalk

Sasa_Radic
@TRAMMCPD @gillyflower78 Traker and trail? #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD Used to be sit-on-the-fence cowboy style. But now I’m in 3rdyr I’ve become pro-active! #loveTRAMm #otalk

BillWongOT
A good example of what I am talking about- I have not read an #OT journal article since I completed my OTD. #otalk

AnnabelFenn
@TRAMMCPD Evening all – I admit my CPD style is bull in the china shop! #OTalk

kirstyes
@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD That’s great to hear – does that mean you’ve found something that works for you? #OTalk

JeSuisLucie
@TRAMMCPD my style is… enthusiastic, but not very well planned. #OTalk

kirstyes
Welcome from Croatia @Sasa_Radic – what are your CPD requirements there? #OTalk

merrolee
#OTalk I’m a little like @kirstyes mostly strategic, sometimes opportunistic. Not easy to be strategic if unaware..

eileenhegarty7
@kirstyes It is – I’m so delighted to be started in my first Ot post #otalk

GillyGorry
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @OTTM2009 @debhearle I was really impressed by the concept #otalk

SarahMassey92
Interesting topic on #otalk tonight, as a student I’m always interested in CPD especially as I enter 3rd year.

BillWongOT
Meanwhile, my strategy for CPD has evolved. I used to go to #OT conference based on speakers. #otalk 1/2

Sasa_Radic
#OTalk I was doing CPD since graduation, in the last year following #Otalk realized importance oc strategic planning in CPD

TRAMMCPD
@gillyflower78 #otalk that’s great, do you use a reflective tool as well?

Sasa_Radic
RT @TRAMMCPD: @gillyflower78 #otalk that’s great, do you use a reflective tool as well?

kirstyes
RT @JeSuisLucie: @TRAMMCPD my style is… enthusiastic, but not very well planned. #OTalk

BoothRach
Sorry I’m late but here #otalk

Symbolic_Life
hi everyone sorry im late #otalk

BillWongOT
Now, I am going to #OT conference workshops based on topics of need for my job in pediatrics. #otalk 2/2

kirstyes
@JeSuisLucie @TRAMMCPD Lovethis #otalk.I’d say that was quite accurate for me too.Although I plan but get excited by different opportunities

eileenhegarty7
@GillyGorry @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes Me too. Registration is just coming in here in Ireland and looks like we’ll need a strategic plan #otalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible

kirstyes
@SarahMassey92 Yes great to get a handle on it before you enter practice. #OTalk

GillyGorry
@merrolee @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @OTTM2009 @debhearle yeah I think the self directed element appealed to me #OTalk

kirstyes
@Sasa_Radic Glad to hear #otalk has helped there.

GillyGorry
RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible

gillyflower78
@TRAMMCPD This works for me, Tracker nags away at my conscience if I don’t update it regularly now! #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @BillWongOT: Now, I am going to #OT conference workshops based on topics of need for my job in pediatrics. #otalk 2/2

gillyflower78
RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible

BillWongOT
That said, I am slowly planning on the certifications I will get for peds- SIPT, NDT, HWT, and feeding/swallowing. #otalk

kirstyes
Another good point @BillWongOT – often CPD requirements are about meeting standards of job and not just about interest. #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk the most successful use we have heard of is to keep Tracker as working document and complete as often as possible

JeSuisLucie
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes I really like the sound of this, it appeals to me and my love of lists and spreadsheets!! #OTalk

SarahMassey92
@kirstyes So I hear. Trying to do what I can, especially with my ideas such as the online journal club and others I’ve had. #OTalk

Sasa_Radic
@kirstyes #OTalk We collect points for going on different courses, lectures, workshops, writing articles. But the system has so many gaps

kirstyes
@TRAMMCPD Think this is similar to the ‘activity summary’ I use with the students I work with.Great idea to keep track of everything. #otalk

kirstyes
RT @GillyGorry: @merrolee @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @OTTM2009 @debhearle yeah I think the self directed element appealed to me #OTalk

kirstyes
.@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD Ha – love that you’ve created a CPD nagger! #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk I use Tracker to record everything, team meetings, supervision, training, anything OT related formal or informal

BillWongOT
Through observation of my CPD strategies, I feel that students can benefit from casting a wide net in CPD. 1/2 #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk No everything is free to download from our website http://t.co/C37nLKuSkG

merrolee
#OTalk sorry have to leave technology not playing game and have to go to work 😦

BoothRach
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk No everything is free to download from our website http://t.co/C37nLKuSkG

Sasa_Radic
Inner driven CPD is great, but what if OTcommunity does it just for points or similar #OTalk

gillyflower78
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes Not that Tracker is annoying 😉 Just effective. I set a time each week to update it, just in case I forget… #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
@merrolee #otalk thanks for joining us. We’ll be in touch soon

kirstyes
RT @JeSuisLucie: @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes I really like the sound of this, it appeals to me and my love of lists and spreadsheets!! #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
@gillyflower78 @kirstyes #otalk That’s great, it is most effective when used regularly

kirstyes
.@Sasa_Radic yes not sure how keen I am on points based system. As @merrolee advised being self directed important #otalk

BillWongOT
Practitioners, however, are probably more needs based… often dictated by their areas of practice. #otalk 2/2

eileenhegarty7
@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD @kirstyes That sounds like a good system. Do you find it easy to keep to it? #otalk

BoothRach
I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk

gillyflower78
@JeSuisLucie @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD I agree. It feels systematic and that it covers all bases. #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk what other CPD tools are available that you are using?

gillyflower78
@BoothRach @TRAMMCPD I’d be interested to know too. TRAMm is the 1st tool I’ve used, other than my own personal organising #OTalk

Sasa_Radic
@kirstyes @merrolee #OTalk I completly agree. This grading system is not good.

TRAMMCPD
@JeSuisLucie #otalk That’s how/why TRAMm was conceived. Using Appreciative Inquiry with lots of enthusiasm that needed a structure

pd2ot
RT @lapsangsusie: So I did some writing last week “@OTalk_Occhat: Responses to @Pd2ot‘s #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”: http…

BillWongOT
In US in my opinion, there are many CPD options. #otalk 1/3

GillyGorry
RT @BoothRach: I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk

pd2ot
RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t…

Sasa_Radic
RT @BoothRach: I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk

kirstyes
.@BillWongOT Important to balance this with thinking to the future and planning for longer term career #OTalk

eileenhegarty7
@TRAMMCPD TRAMm is the first comprehensive tool I’ve come across. Our national org AOTI have a tracker and a reflection guide #otalk

kirstyes
RT @Sasa_Radic: Inner driven CPD is great, but what if OTcommunity does it just for points or similar #OTalk

BoothRach
#otalk sorry full of questions tonight this tool is new to me and just had a brief look, so am I right in thinking you download and keep!

Sasa_Radic
RT @kirstyes: .@BillWongOT Important to balance this with thinking to the future and planning for longer term career #OTalk

BillWongOT
The good- diverse options = something for every OT student and practitioner. #otalk 2/3

BoothRach
#otalk it’s not keep on line some where?

JeSuisLucie
@TRAMMCPD I’m going to d/l and give it a go soon. Sounds like it suits my style #OTalk

SarahMassey92
I’m glad TRAMm has been brought to my attention. It looks like something I could use that is clear and concise #OTalk

BillWongOT
The bad- each state have different requirements (on top of 1’s by NBCOT), and generally the requirements are too easy to reach. #otalk 3/3

gillyflower78
@BoothRach Yes, store on your computer and as paper copy. I’ve organised my records to correlate with the TRAMm stops #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@BoothRach #otalk Yes, download & complete, make it work for u & your organisation. Welcome to contact us, via the website if u have queries

Sasa_Radic
RT @SarahMassey92: I’m glad TRAMm has been brought to my attention. It looks like something I could use that is clear and concise #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
@BoothRach #otalk not yet but it is something for future consideration

eileenhegarty7
RT @SarahMassey92: I’m glad TRAMm has been brought to my attention. It looks like something I could use that is clear and concise #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
RT @Sasa_Radic: Inner driven CPD is great, but what if OTcommunity does it just for points or similar #OTalk

BoothRach
@kirstyes ok I have heard of e portfolios to, I have mind saved but my CPD is one if the only things I print and put in a file #otalk

gillyflower78
@trammcpd @kirstyes Any pointers for those of us getting to grips with the model?Presenting TRAMm to peers next week #OTalk

BillWongOT
As a new kid on the block at work, the fact that my boss doesn’t discourage me to go to OT conferences is pretty good already 4 CPD. #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@BillWongOT #otalk Isn’t CPD more than just attending conferences?

BoothRach
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach #otalk Yes, download & complete, make it work for u & your organisation. Welcome to contact us, via the website if…

BoothRach
@TRAMMCPD great #otalk

BoothRach
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BillWongOT #otalk Isn’t CPD more than just attending conferences?

SarahMassey92
@BoothRach @kirstyes I like the idea of electronic copies but it’s satisfying having hard evidence of work done in a file. #OTalk

BillWongOT
The fact that my boss allows me to do an inservice (an abridged version of my presentation with @CharOTReilly next month) is a bonus. #otalk

eileenhegarty7
@kirstyes @BoothRach I’d like to set up a blog in the new year. Keeping my portfolio electronically as a blog is an appealing idea #otalk

kirstyes
@TRAMMCPD: @BillWongOT #otalk Isn’t CPD more than just attending conferences?” Definitely, not many OTs attend conferences really

BoothRach
@SarahMassey92 @kirstyes I know I like to look at mind, all colour coordinated and sometimes might stroke it’! #otgeek#otalk

BoothRach
@TRAMMCPD yes I think so! #otalk

JeSuisLucie
@eileenhegarty7 @kirstyes @BoothRach I use my blog for CPD stuff as well as reflective accounts or practical applications of theory #OTalk

BoothRach
RT @eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes @BoothRach I’d like to set up a blog in the new year. Keeping my portfolio electronically as a blog is an app…

GillyGorry
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach #otalk Yes, download & complete, make it work for u & your organisation. Welcome to contact us, via the website if…

BillWongOT
If I have a word of advice 4 new practitioners, knowing their competencies is important information to base their CPD strategies on. #otalk

kirstyes
.@eileenhegarty7 @BoothRach with Wordpess you can make posts secret and password protected so can balance public/private reflection #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@BoothRach #otalk this is part of the reason why we do not have e portfolio available at present

BoothRach
RT @kirstyes: .@eileenhegarty7 @BoothRach with Wordpess you can make posts secret and password protected so can balance public/private refl…

kirstyes
@BoothRach @SarahMassey92 lol #otalk

BoothRach
@kirstyes @eileenhegarty7 this is good to know! #OTalk

BillWongOT
Another advice 4 new practitioners- Prioritize CPD goals, based on personal interests and needs at work. #otalk

eileenhegarty7
@JeSuisLucie @kirstyes @BoothRach I’ll start following your blog, Lucie. Thanks #otalk

kirstyes
@TRAMMCPD @BoothRach realistically you should aim to keep your CPD confidential if offline on paper or online. #otalk

eileenhegarty7
RT @BoothRach: @kirstyes @eileenhegarty7 this is good to know! #OTalk

BoothRach
RT @kirstyes: @TRAMMCPD @BoothRach realistically you should aim to keep your CPD confidential if offline on paper or online. #otalk

SarahMassey92
@BoothRach @kirstyes That sounds like geekery heaven…If only I was that organised :(. #OTalk

BillWongOT
Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk and anything submitted to HCPC must maintain confidentiality

MissHeldi
RT @clissa89: “Dear OTs”: #DearMentalHealthProfessionals-style responses to @pd2ot‘s “When #OccupationalTherapy Goes Wrong” #OTalk http://t…

BoothRach
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk and anything submitted to HCPC must maintain confidentiality

TRAMMCPD
RT @BillWongOT: Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk

kirstyes
RT @BillWongOT: Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk out of interest has anyone been called for HCPC audit?

BillWongOT
My take home point is- CPD strategies can change over time in our OT journeys. #otalk

kirstyes
.@TRAMMCPD Can you just tell us a little more about the Trail element? #OTalk

SarahMassey92
@BillWongOT Wish this was said to my educators. Would have been insightful to see different CPD files with guidance on starting mine #OTalk

Sasa_Radic
RT @kirstyes: .@TRAMMCPD Can you just tell us a little more about the Trail element? #OTalk

kirstyes
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes: @TRAMMCPD no, I was going to do it anyway but so far other things have stopped me. Must try and find time. #otalk

BoothRach
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes I get the letter the two years I have not been on the ball knowing me! #otalk

BoothRach
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes @The_HCPC plus I thin the experience would be good #otalk

Helen_otuk
RT @BillWongOT: Lastly, this is for every practitioner- set a good example for placement students for CPD! #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@Sasa_Radic @kirstyes @debhearle #otalk even if OT community does CPD 4 points its important 2 use cpd tools to be strategic planning career

BillWongOT
Another take home point- 4 students transitioning to OT’s, they should think of CPD strategies b4 their 1st day working as an OT. #otalk

GillyGorry
Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by journal club 8-9

BoothRach
RT @TRAMMCPD: @Sasa_Radic @kirstyes @debhearle #otalk even if OT community does CPD 4 points its important 2 use cpd tools to be strategic …

kirstyes
RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by…

Helen_otuk
RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by…

TRAMMCPD
RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by…

BoothRach
RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by…

Sasa_Radic
RT @TRAMMCPD: @Sasa_Radic @kirstyes @debhearle #otalk even if OT community does CPD 4 points its important 2 use cpd tools to be strategic …

kirstyes
Last five minutes. We should probably move to take away points. #otalk Huge thanks to the @TRAMMCPD team for hosting.

BoothRach
RT @kirstyes: Last five minutes. We should probably move to take away points. #otalk Huge thanks to the @TRAMMCPD team for hosting.

Helen_otuk
@TRAMMCPD has anyone using TRAMm been audited and reported on usefulness in process? #otalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk consider what drives u on cpd journey besides being regulated

kirstyes
Don’t forget to comment on the Journal Club blog. Yes I know I need to also.Aiming to do Friday if not before. http://t.co/Onxro8YUMm #otalk

kirstyes
RT @Helen_otuk: @TRAMMCPD has anyone using TRAMm been audited and reported on usefulness in process? #otalk

eileenhegarty7
@kirstyes @TRAMMCPD Take away points – get strategic with CPD and learn from the experience of others #otalk

BoothRach
Take away points #otalk I need to think More widely about my CPD, and think I will discuss this with my team and students on placement!

gillyflower78
@TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk

BoothRach
RT @eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD Take away points – get strategic with CPD and learn from the experience of others #otalk

Helen_otuk
RT @kirstyes: Don’t forget to comment on the Journal Club blog. Yes I know I need to also.Aiming to do Friday if not before. http://t.co/On…

eileenhegarty7
@kirstyes Looking forward to first Journal Club. Planning to comment at the weekend #otalk

Zoe_with2dots
RT @kirstyes: Don’t forget to comment on the Journal Club blog. Yes I know I need to also.Aiming to do Friday if not before. http://t.co/On…

TRAMMCPD
#otalk many thanks everyone for joining us. Sorry if we have not replied to everyone.

BoothRach
RT @gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk Remeber strategic CPD is important for yourself not just maintaining registration. TRAMm can help you achieve this…

kirstyes
@gillyflower78: @TRAMMCPD As a student, personal development rather than audit is my motivator #OTalk” As it should be always ideally.

gillyflower78
@TRAMMCPD Thanks for hosting, enjoyed tonight’s #OTalk

LeonoraOT
Hi #otalk late but interested to read through your chat 🙂

BoothRach
RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk Remeber strategic CPD is important for yourself not just maintaining registration. TRAMm can help you achieve this…

kirstyes
@LeonoraOT interested in your thoughts too. #otalk

eileenhegarty7
@TRAMMCPD @kirstyes Thanking for hosting and for bringing this exciting tool to my attention. Talk to you all next week #otalk

SarahMassey92
My #OTalk take home point is start ASAP and get to grips with the TRAMm format.

kirstyes
How great that next week 7-8 will follow this up with a chat by @The_HCPC #otalk

Helen_otuk
@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD not just as a student life long learner is my motivation. #OTalk

kirstyes
@SarahMassey92 good plan! #otalk

Helen_otuk
Yay “@eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes Looking forward to first Journal Club. Planning to comment at the weekend #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@gillyflower78 @kirstyes #otalk Start as mean to go on…

SarahMassey92
Also glad to see so much enthusiasm for the online journal club. Hope to put that in my CPD as a new service 🙂 #OTalk

JeSuisLucie
really interested in trying @TRAMMCPD, thanks for hosting!! #OTalk

kirstyes
.@gillyflower78 @TRAMMCPD Think you may be what @merrolee would call a self directed learner! #otalk

Helen_otuk
You would think we planned it. Strategic “@kirstyes: How great that next week 7-8 will follow this up with a chat by @The_HCPC #otalk

TRAMMCPD
#otalk remember: don’t worry about the bag/drawer full of CPD certificates just start NOW to avoid panic in 2 yrs time

kirstyes
RT @Helen_otuk: You would think we planned it. Strategic “@kirstyes: How great that next week 7-8 will follow this up with a chat by @The_

kirstyes
@Helen_otuk @The_HCPC lol. #otalk

gillyflower78
@kirstyes @TRAMMCPD @merrolee Or is that #OTgeek? 😉 #OTalk

gillyflower78
RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk remember: don’t worry about the bag/drawer full of CPD certificates just start NOW to avoid panic in 2 yrs time

Helen_otuk
Same thing? “@gillyflower78: @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD @merrolee Or is that #OTgeek? 😉 #OTalk

GillyGorry
thanks @TRAMMCPD for a great #otalk and to @kirstyes for doing a fab job supporting as always 🙂

kirstyes
@gillyflower78: @kirstyes @TRAMMCPD @merrolee Or is that #OTgeek? 😉 #OTalk” same thing I believe.

GillyGorry
is going to put some serious effort into getting my Tramm on 🙂 #otalk #cpd #occupationaltherapy #organisemychaos

Helen_otuk
Been a bit tricky following on phone this eve. But enjoyed too. Thanks. #otalk

TRAMMCPD
@kirstyes #otalk Many thanks for your support tonight

TRAMMCPD
RT @GillyGorry: is going to put some serious effort into getting my Tramm on 🙂 #otalk #cpd #occupationaltherapy #organisemychaos

kirstyes
Night all. Will try and get transcript up ASAP but please forgive me if not tomorrow night. Cold a brewing. #otalk

kirstyes
@TRAMMCPD more than welcome. A topic close to my heart. Going to aim to be less Bull more Chessboard. #otalk

CroftVictoria
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 24th September 2013 – The TRAMm Model (A tool for CPD) http://t.co/FQx9eT56me

kirstyes
RT @TRAMMCPD: #otalk remember: don’t worry about the bag/drawer full of CPD certificates just start NOW to avoid panic in 2 yrs time

kirstyes
.@TRAMMCPD excellent advice. #otalk

gillyflower78
RT @GillyGorry: thanks @TRAMMCPD for a great #otalk and to @kirstyes for doing a fab job supporting as always 🙂

BMCOKCOTAS
Hey @Upworthy and @Love146 check out @NoBoundariesOKC @NoBoundariesInt #HT #OTalk #OTuesday

TRAMMCPD
@Sasa_Radic #otalk thank you for joining us tonight. If you need more information don’t hesitate to contact us

Bucowa_Magi
♥♥ #MeetOtaku #OTalk #Code_Geass http://t.co/qJRJVDsbDM

clearsci
@kirstyes what’re you using for the #otalk transcripts? Have you considered http://t.co/f3uLWc18OW may be easier & quick. 🙂 Happy to advise

family_success
RT @eileenhegarty7: @kirstyes Looking forward to first Journal Club. Planning to comment at the weekend #otalk

N_504_144
RT @Bucowa_Magi: ♥♥ #MeetOtaku #OTalk #Code_Geass http://t.co/qJRJVDsbDM

LeonoraOT
It’s worth checking out RT“@TRAMMCPD: @BoothRach @kirstyes #otalk No everything is free to download from our website http://t.co/HH56XSfE58”

LeonoraOT
RT @GillyGorry: Really enjoying tonight’s #otalk next week we have a special double chat 7-8 maintaining registration run with HCPC then by…

MaryBoothOT
RT @BoothRach: Just settled in to my hotel, and walked round to a place called the waterline, for my tea. All alone in newcastle

Wardmans
RT @BoothRach: I wondered how @TRAMMCPD compares to other CPD tools? #otalk

zero0sama
RT @Bucowa_Magi: ♥♥ #MeetOtaku #OTalk #Code_Geass http://t.co/qJRJVDsbDM

BillWongOT
@merrolee it is so huge that it is overwhelming. It’s hard to keep up w/ latest evidence while learning vital skills to be on my own. #otalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes I think there is an interest part to this- I prefer pediatrics, hence my CPD focus is on it. #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @kirstyes: .@BillWongOT Important to balance this with thinking to the future and planning for longer term career #OTalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes for longer term career, I do have teaching in mind. OT’s with OTD’s can teach at OT programs in US. #otalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes @TRAMMCPD I attend conferences because I want to set a good CPD example for my mentees. #otalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes @TRAMMCPD another reason I attend conferences because I love presenting at conferences. #otalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes @TRAMMCPD but u are right, had I not been who I am in OT… 13 conferences will be > twice of my career total instead. #otalk

BillWongOT
@gillyflower78 my strategy for the next few years is going beyond autism for CPD in pediatrics. 1/2 #otalk

BillWongOT
@gillyflower78 the only times I will do that is either the speaker is good, or I am preparing for an #ot conference proposal. 2/2 #otalk

BillWongOT
@SarahMassey92 personally I mentor students in professional development for this reason. I will tell them my strategies as I go. #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @SarahMassey92: Also glad to see so much enthusiasm for the online journal club. Hope to put that in my CPD as a new service 🙂 #OTalk

TRAMMCPD
@BillWongOT #otalk CPD is about what u ‘do’ with knowledge gained at conf to improve ur practice. 1/2

BAOTNYRegion
RT @TRAMMCPD: @BillWongOT #otalk CPD is about what u ‘do’ with knowledge gained at conf to improve ur practice. 1/2

TRAMMCPD
@BillWongOT #otalk. CPD Everyday learning is as important, if not more so, to improve practice alongside listening2/2 http://t.co/tshW7SoPDJ

Helen_otuk
@DawnFraser_OT Dawn, welcome to the world of #OTGEEK, which is alive a well in the twitterverse. I would recommend #OTalk Tuesday 8pm.

kirstyes
@clearsci @TRAMMCPD Great – thanks – will link to in the blog post tonight. #otalk

BAOTCOT
Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” – food for thought! http://t.co/oVbtxyECVT

KellyOT
RT @BAOTCOT: Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” – food for thought! http://t.co/oVbtxyECVT

OTBeth131
RT @BAOTCOT: Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” – food for thought! http://t.co/oVbtxyECVT

OTtwehy
@TRAMMCPD sorry to have missed #otalk last night. Looking forward to catching up I’m sure it was a great one.

TRAMMCPD
@OTtwehy we really enjoyed #otalk. The summary should be up soon.There was so much going on all at once. You’re hosting one soon aren’t you?

OTtwehy
@TRAMMCPD awh I’m glad you enjoyed it 🙂 yep I’m hosting #otalk on the 29th of October is it as scary as I think?

TRAMMCPD
@OTtwehy #otalk I was really nervous before start, needn’t have been. @kirstyes was great and DM me with tips as went along. You’ll be fab

TRAMMCPD
@OTtwehy #otalk community really friendly and positive

kirstyes
@OTtwehy @TRAMMCPD Thanks for the kind words. It’s the fab #otalk community that makes it go so smoothly.

“Dear Occupational Therapists” – Responses to #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong”

Last week, @pd2ot hosted an #OTalk entitled “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” (the transcript of the chat can be found at this link). Following this chat, we invited people to continue the conversation, unrestricted by Twitter’s 140 character limit:

I was pleased to receive two thought-provoking responses: one from Sarah (@carerseyes), who blogs about her experiences  of caring for her partner with borderline personality disorder, and the other from Linda (@lapsangsusie), who has experienced a range of occupational therapy input as a service user.  I’d like to thank both for taking the time and effort to write about their experiences, and welcome further responses from people who have come into contact with occupational therapy services.

Sarah’s Letter

The full text of Sarah’s letter can be found on her blog post entitled #DearMentalHealthProfessionals. Here is an excerpt:

You see for me, I don’t get any let up, I cannot go home at the end of my day or shift and sit down and relax, fall asleep knowing that I don’t have to think about any of it until the next day because I have to live with it, even when Chris is in hospital, the problems don’t just vanish because this is my life. I often feel, sadly by some of you that you take me for granted, that I am the first person you will blame when Chris isn’t well, be it because I didn’t lock up his medication, I fell asleep and he left the house or any other number of other factors. Yet I am the last person a lot of you listen to or even think to speak with, I sometimes feel forgotten until you next need someone to shoulder the blame or responsibility. I just want you to work with me, I am there to help you because I love the person I care for very much, I have eight years worth of understanding, please don’t talk to me like I don’t know him at all. While I don’t hold the qualifications you do, while I am not even considered to be employed and I often tackle the daily stigma around all of this, I know more about him than you likely ever will, because it is me who has been his constant for so long.

Linda’s Letter

 Linda Bates completed a PhD in medieval literature in 2010. She blogs at lindyb28.blogspot.co.uk on a variety of topics, from ballet to baking, from knitting to novels, but especially on issues surrounding eating disorders…. and her two dogs. She has lived with anorexia since she “gave up eating” at the age of 10 when unwell and unhappy, and is pleased when writing about her experiences allows other people to gain a deeper insight into the illness or its treatment.

Below is the full text of Linda’s letter. Fictional place names have been used(*):

Dear OTs,

My first encounter with your profession was back in 1989. I’d gone into hospital just after my 11th birthday and spent 6 months there. Most weekdays, my physio would give me a piggyback to the hydrotherapy pool, which was right next to the OT “cupboard”. (cupboard is what she called it. But she also told me that OTs were cockroaches and that green uniforms were vastly inferior to blue ones, so it’s possible that we should take her words with a pinch of salt!)

Eventually I figured out that OTs helped people use a kettle if being ill meant that they could no longer make themselves a cup of tea. My uncle had recently had a stroke so I understood the OTs’ role in terms of the kind of rehab that he had experienced.

I didn’t know about the importance of OTs in a mental health setting until my first inpatient admission to an eating disorder unit as an adult in 1998. I spent 9 weeks on bedrest because my physical health on admission was very poor. So the OT was crucial in helping me to avoid bedrest boredom: she would bring down a tray of craft activities to my room and I’d spend an hour (or however long I could manage) with her, escaping into a crafty dimension that sometimes managed to transcend the restrictions of being confined to a small room, 24/7, on constant 1-1 observations. She would also bring a CD player for guided relaxations.

For the rest of that admission, and the next two inpatient admissions in the same unit, my experience of OT followed the same pattern of offering escape from, rather than addressing of, my mental health difficulties. The exception to this was during my third admission (2003-4) when, in addition to craft and relaxation, I also did some work on cooking, shopping and “snacks out” with the OT team. This has been of limited use in practice because of the inherent artificiality: it is as hard to transfer the process of cooking/eating with an OT in a hospital OT kitchen to the daily challenge of bothering to make food for myself as it is to eat the same quantities and types of food served in the ward dining room seven times a day.

That third admission took place between my second and third years of university and I was very fortunate to work closely with an outpatient eating disorders OT during the 6 months before I went up to Casterbridge* in 2001. With her, I was able to move, at a steady pace, from being unable to eat anything that I hadn’t prepared myself to eating an identical meal at a café to having coffee in Rummidge* Uni canteen (our EDU is very close to the Uni) and eventually even trying some food there. So she helped me by focusing in on the specific challenges that I would face as someone starting university with long term restrictive anorexia. Even though it didn’t make it easy to eat in front of people or in communal settings once I was in Casterbridge, it was vital in productively managing my anxiety so that I didn’t become too overwhelmed to make the important step of moving away to university after a total of 14 months in hospital during the few years that had passed after my A Levels.

During a later hospital admission (2007), I was very pleased when a drama group appeared on the group programme. I was doing a PhD in English literature at the time and have always loved drama, even attending a performing arts boarding school for VIth Form. However, when the group began, the two OTs running the session seemed totally unable to cope when I challenged the printed handouts we were given on Macbeth; it gave a summary of the play that was facile and misleading and, rightly or wrongly, my instinct is always to analyse and discuss literature. The OTs didn’t try to incorporate my thoughts into the group so the whole situation became rather negative and frustrating, probably for them as well as for me. After this session, the group was cancelled. On reflection, I wonder whether the OTs could have utilised the skills of the participants in the group, including my literature and theatre background, to improve the way that the group worked for us. I’m not sure whether the group set out with specific aims but I feel that if participants have existing interest or skills in a topic, it’s possible that this could enhance the group’s success rather than making it a failure. Perhaps the difficulty is that a lot of groups operate on a very hierarchical model: the OT or nurse facilitator has The Knowledge and we, as service users, as supposed to be the empty jugs that passively receive it. This model is particularly problematic in eating disorder wards, where many patients have been through the group programme several times before and therefore may know the assertiveness, or self-esteem, or nutrition course as well as the person delivering it.

In 2010, I had another experience of outpatient occupational therapy, this time with a community MHT OT, who admitted to me in the first session that she’d never spoken to a person with an eating disorder before. Our appointments were the result of the community psychiatrist requesting that I be assigned a CPN (Casterbridge Adult EDS were refusing to offer me treatment for my anorexia so general mental health services were trying to work out what to do with me). The meeting of CPNs decided that I didn’t meet the criteria for their lists and therefore, somewhat randomly, I was assigned to the team OT. I had recently submitted my PhD so she mostly focused on what I should Do With My Life and brought in an [employment service] man to speak to me. He had never worked with anyone with a PhD and had not heard of the type of jobs for which I’d been applying. I was struggling very badly at the time with my food intake and was feeling very low about having no purpose now that my PhD was complete; being referred to a service that seemed geared to finding work for people with very different skill sets from my own actually contributed to my growing sense of despair. The tipping point in this relationship came when I arrived at an appointment feeling quite distressed: I had learned that morning that a friend had given birth, which had triggered some painful emotions about being single, with no prospect of either a relationship, and of how long term anorexia may mean that I would never become a mother myself. The OT’s suggestion? I should go to my GP and ask to be referred for artificial insemination. I don’t want to give BMI info that could trigger other people with eating disorders, but it’s important to point out that the likelihood that I could have conceived at that point, let alone carry a baby to term or find the emotional resilience to care for it, was miniscule. This conversation was so distressing for me that I didn’t make any future appointments to meet that OT. At the next appointment with the community psychiatrist, she suggested that I move back to Rummidge so that I could once again access eating disorder treatment. I followed her advice and was back in hospital within a week of seeing the specialist there.

During the 6-month admission that followed, the unit’s inpatient OT was on maternity leave. She had taken her full year’s allowance and the unit had not paid for a replacement. Therefore the group programme was barely running and rehab activities could happen only when the (extremely busy) nursing staff had enough cover to be able to leave the ward. Obviously, as OTs, you can’t control whether you will be replaced if you have time off work; but perhaps you could stress to management how vital your work can be and the ways that patients will be affected in your absence.

Finally, a few months ago, I attended the day treatment service of the same eating disorder unit. This is run by an OT and she has a lot of expertise in running therapeutic groups, which are very beneficial. However, the emphasis on “therapy” is not matched with equivalent “occupational” focus. My main struggles came with facing mealtimes in the dining room and the OT revealed to me that my anxiety was causing her a lot of stress. She was unable to help me make progress with eating and therefore a mutual decision was made that I should be discharged from day treatment.

If you are still reading after I’ve unfolded this long catalogue of OT experiences, thank you for listening to me. I feel that it’s important to state that I have benefited from occupational therapy and I’m sorry that the focus of this piece has been where it has been unhelpful (although I suppose that is inevitable given that the theme of the OTalk that inspired this post was “occupational therapy gone wrong”). I probably should have extrapolated something tangible from each experience to offer as advice for you all. However, I think that is possibly less helpful than saying that my experiences have happened because of me being me: a unique combination of emotions, slightly irrational love of my dogs, education and 30+ years of living in my head. And you can extrapolate, therefore, that each service user is an individual, with their own patchwork of experiences, talents, likes, dislikes, etc. Listening is more important than talking sometimes and, from this, positive therapeutic relationships can emerge.

Update: You may be interested to read Linda’s blog post, “Talking to OTs”, about her experience of participating in #OTalk and the unexpected challenges of sharing her open letter. Reading this made me value even more the way she and others have shared their stories with us, and the vulnerability that this can bring.

Transcript – #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model

Please find the transcript for the ICF talk from the 10th September below – or at Healthcare Hashtags

You can find Simon’s introduction to the chat here – thanks to him for hosting the chat. I’ve just been informed #anzotalk are going to run a talk on the topic too.

OTalk_Occhat
#OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI

Symbolic_Life
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI

kirstyes
Discussion echoing our What Is Evidence #OTalk from a few weeks ago #SWAHPRN Hierarchy – one example http://t.co/7aXk8lJ2Wu

JulieHughes2013
RT @kirstyes: Discussion echoing our What Is Evidence #OTalk from a few weeks ago #SWAHPRN Hierarchy – one example http://t.co/7aXk8lJ2Wu

Helen_otuk
RT @kirstyes: Discussion echoing our What Is Evidence #OTalk from a few weeks ago #SWAHPRN Hierarchy – one example http://t.co/7aXk8lJ2Wu

Helen_otuk
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI

YappGuru
Like us on Facebook for occupational and physical therapy app news! http://t.co/Esce6kTEt5 #OTPeeps #OTalk #DPTStudent #PhysicalTherapy

BillWongOT
In my hand therapy placement, the ICD-9 is used as references for billing purposes. #otalk

BillWongOT
I think there’s a benefit in using ICF in our practice. However, it’s important to gauge where every1 else is at at ur work setting. #otalk

BillWongOT
If we want to go beyond our workplace, we should do conference presentations on such topics! #otalk

BillWongOT
#OTalk #OTalk2US” is the team name for one of my #OT fantasy football league teams.

TherapistOT
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI

otstudent2
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI

Sibellgul
RT @OTalk_Occhat: #OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/0u2LHhOAJI

BAOTCOT
Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

KellyOT
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

Bird20116
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

RigHealthcare
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

amycupcakeface
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

TRAMMCPD
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

TherapistOT
Bloomin eck it’s chilly! Warm yourselves up this evening with a heated debate about ICF #otalk

kirstyes
@Bethanhc ICF model #otalk tonight if you were still interested.

COTSSTO
#OTalk 10th September 2013 – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/yszJFJLmAD via @OTalk_Occhat

BAOTNYRegion
Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat

emerging2OT
RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat

Symbolic_Life
RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat

Manar426
RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat

elaineahpmh
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

pbarrosoto
RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat

morrisKOT
RT @BAOTNYRegion: Tonight’s #OTalk – Focus on the ICF Model http://t.co/D76v91G25G via @OTalk_Occhat

OTalk_Occhat
40 minutes until we #otalk about the ICF.

GillyGorry
sorry to miss #otalk tonight. early night nursing a migraine for me. hope it goes well 🙂

kirstyes
#OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with our ICF chat

OTalk_Occhat
RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o…

BoothRach
RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o…

BoothRach
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

MHNurseChat
RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o…

TherapistOT
Just finishing the washing up then will be following @kirstyes sensible advice in preparation for #otalk

_beckyOT
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

TherapistOT
RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o…

elaineahpmh
RT @kirstyes: #OTalk people, it clashes with us at 8-9 but @MHNurseChat is on suicide prevention if anyone wants to try multitasking with o…

elaineahpmh
@jeanahpm hope u enjoy #OTalk I need to miss it tonight but will follow later tomorrow, great group of folk get involved @OTalk_Occhat

kirstyes
Hi all at #OTalk I need to dash at 9 for a date with an Iron Man 3! Sadly not a man like @Dai2584 that irons though!!

kirstyes
I will be supporting @TherapistOT who is hosting tonight’s #OTalk on ICF until then though

TherapistOT
#OTalk looking forward to hearing your views on ICF , it’s one of my key reasoning tools

Symbolic_Life
Does anyone know what site or app you can use for easier visuals of hash tag talks such as #OTalk please?

TherapistOT
#OTalk & I think it was a revolutionary move for the WHO & let them catch up with our theory 🙂

Symbolic_Life
RT @Helen_otuk: My personal #OTalk Journal (media) Club Week 1 target: Read article 3 times! http://t.co/0d6TgxFfay

kirstyes
RT @TherapistOT: #OTalk looking forward to hearing your views on ICF , it’s one of my key reasoning tools

BillWongOT
Sure missed interacting live with everyone. Going pseudo live again for this #otalk

Maria_Markland
I’ve never looked into ICF, or (as an OT student) used it. But I’ve had a read of the info provided and look forward to #OTalk views on it!

kirstyes
@TherapistOT It wasnt something I was familiar with before going back into the academic setting. #otalk

kirstyes
RT @Symbolic_Life: Does anyone know what site or app you can use for easier visuals of hash tag talks such as #OTalk please?

TherapistOT
@BillWongOT good to have you Bill ! I get the feeling that US uses ICF differently to the UK #otalk

TherapistOT
@Maria_Markland yeah I don’t think many departments have got into it , which is a shame #otalk

clissa89
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

BillWongOT
I was exposed to the ICF when I started as an OT student in 2009. 1/2 #otalk

Symbolic_Life
I know alittle of ICF but I’ve alot to learn #OTalk

clissa89
@Symbolic_Life do you mean eg Tweetchat? that’s what I use #OTalk

kirstyes
Really interested in the reflection about an initial skepticism. Do you think ICF has a tendency to be a marmite (love/hate) model? #otalk

BillWongOT
I personally thought it was introduced too early in my OT education- barely knew what OT was at the time. 2/2 #otalk

Bethanhc
@TherapistOT ICF was revolutionary: classified more than impairment, changed word “handicap” and included environment. #OTalk

TherapistOT
@kirstyes same I 1st engaged with it in Sweden & Holland & it’s used in US , but looks more reductionist there #otalk

OTalk_Occhat
@Bethanhc great we are on #otalk

Bethanhc
@OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR

Maria_Markland
@TherapistOT The concept of moving away from disability as a specific condition and seeing it along a spectrum of health seems good. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@clissa89 is that what it is? Is it a app or a website please? #OTalk

TherapistOT
@Bethanhc was the complex and expansive definition of environment that hooked me I just love that it includes domesticated animals! #otalk

Bethanhc
@TherapistOT some of us would have liked more revolution though #OTalk

kirstyes
.@TherapistOT can you give an example of a reductionist use? #otalk

Symbolic_Life
RT @Bethanhc: @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR

kilner100
RT @BAOTCOT: Tonight’s #OTalk focusses on the ICF Model – be there from 8pm! http://t.co/pGSKsWE3Da

Bethanhc
ICF is “classification of HEALTH and HEALTH -related domains”– not necessarily relevant to the lived experience of disability. #otalk

BillWongOT
I think how the ICF is introduced at school can play a role in whether we love or hate it. #otalk

BillWongOT
I personally think ICF has a place. However, at least from what I experienced in the US, it is not as popular. #otalk

Bethanhc
It has major shortcoming in subjective experience of meaning and autonomy (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk

Maria_Markland
RT @TherapistOT: @Bethanhc was the complex and expansive definition of environment that hooked me I just love that it includes domesticate…

TherapistOT
@BillWongOT took me a lot of pondering & anxiety to feel I understood how it could help me I see it as a constantly changing dynamic #otalk

KarenIvey
#OTalk aggh on a train tweets won’t send

kirstyes
RT @BillWongOT: I personally thought it was introduced too early in my OT education- barely knew what OT was at the time. 2/2 #otalk

kirstyes
RT @Bethanhc: @TherapistOT ICF was revolutionary: classified more than impairment, changed word “handicap” and included environment. #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @Bethanhc: @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR

Bethanhc
@kirstyes Don’t think it’s a love-hate thing. I think it has been misapplied and over generalised. #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
My depiction-it maybe allows the consideration of some factors of disability supporting acknowledgement in other professions #OTalk

Bethanhc
I am not anti-ICF. It has a place. It should be used in its right place, not for everything. #otalk

kirstyes
@Bethanhc A case of people using ‘out of the box’ without integrating with other aspects of reasoning maybe? #otalk

jm78uk
Using PEOP & ICF is a wonderful combination for teaching and learning for foundational knowledge about the impact of health/illness. #otalk

Maria_Markland
@Bethanhc What do you think its right place is? #otalk

jeanahpm
@Bethanhc #otalk maybe useful if added sense of coherence?

kilner100
RT @Symbolic_Life: ICF allows the consideration of some factors of disability supporting acknowledgement in other professions #OTalk

KarenIvey
The best thing about the ICF is it enables you to speak across professional boundaries and be understood #OTalk

Bethanhc
@kirstyes Yes and misunderstanding its HEALTH focus. #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @Bethanhc: It has major shortcoming in subjective experience of meaning and autonomy (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk

kirstyes
@KarenIvey Please send tweets when you can – we won’t be collating for 24 hours #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @jm78uk: Using PEOP & ICF is a wonderful combination for teaching and learning for foundational knowledge about the impact of health/ill…

kilner100
Hi guys, just catching up with #otalk. We’ve had teaching on ICF but not in practice. Love to hear about applications and any tools

Bethanhc
@jm78uk Agree, it is useful re impact of illness. Not the same as disability and is understandably less popular in disability world. #OTalk

kirstyes
.@jm78uk I’d like to hear more about integrating these two aspects. #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
Im wondering does this support the OT role in health care? Eg advocating the dynamic relationship of components and disability? #OTalk

TherapistOT
@Bethanhc agree its the central dynamic transaction tha I really like but its symmetry can beguile me into thinking balance is a goal #otalk

Sibellgul
How and where would you apply it? @Bethanhc @kirstyes #OTalk

Bethanhc
@KarenIvey Agree. Also helps hugely with research and outcome measurement of health interventions. #OTalk

kilner100
@Symbolic_Life plus taking emphasis off impairment and onto aspects of the environment etc #SocialModel #OTalk

BillWongOT
@jeanahpm couldn’t really say because it is not quite obviously mentioned a lot at my place of work now. #otalk

Bethanhc
@Symbolic_Life When it first came out OTs were embracing it due to participation element. Now there is more critique. #OTalk

jm78uk
@Bethanhc agree but it is a classification system. Depends whether you feel a classification system has a place at all! #OTalk

Dai2584
Hi everyone. I have no really experience of this or how its used in practice to be honest #OTalk

BillWongOT
I do think ICF is integrated in US OT practice… Some are more obvious than others. #otalk

jm78uk
@Bethanhc as well as your philosophical perspective! #OTalk

jeanahpm
@KarenIvey #otalk yes fully agree break down prof barriers

BillWongOT
In my hand therapy placement, it is used as a criteria to justify a client to be eligible for services for billing purposes. #otalk

kirstyes
What strategies have people used to integrate ICF into their services? #otalk (If you have of course)

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: @OTalk_Occhat for those interested #otalk The ICF Training manual is freely available here http://t.co/0FKr1EuyQR

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @TherapistOT I like that too. #otalk

Bethanhc
@Sibellgul @kirstyes research using as outcome measure; means of assessing impact of health on individual in cross-professional lang #OTalk

TherapistOT
RT @KarenIvey: The best thing about the ICF is it enables you to speak across professional boundaries and be understood #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @Bethanhc: @Sibellgul @kirstyes research using as outcome measure; means of assessing impact of health on individual in cross-profession…

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland @TherapistOT I know autism is seen as a spectrum in terms of functioning levels. #otalk

Bethanhc
@jm78uk Couldn’t agree more! Health statisticians may need it… OTS? #otalk

TherapistOT
@Sibellgul @Bethanhc @kirstyes I use in my initial assessment to build a formulation of what happening to the individual #otalk

kilner100
@KarenIvey @Bethanhc how much are other professions using it in UK services? #otalk can we learn from them?

BillWongOT
@KarenIvey agreed! #otalk it is like universal language that health professionals can understand. Easy for billing too. #otalk

BillWongOT
I think there’s a benefit in using ICF in our practice. However, it’s important to gauge where every1 else is at at ur work setting. #otalk

Bethanhc
ICF measures disability. I don’t want to be measured, thanks. I want to have equal rights, equal access and meaningful occupations. #otalk

BillWongOT
If it’s strategies, I would say discussing with you all on #otalk will help me do this more confidently in my practice at my peds clinic.

BillWongOT
@TherapistOT I am sorta live, but not really… Eating lunch at my work… Before getting ready for my kiddo in 30 something minutes. #otalk

kirstyes
RT @jm78uk: @Bethanhc agree but it is a classification system. Depends whether you feel a classification system has a place at all! #OTalk

Bethanhc
@TherapistOT @Sibellgul @kirstyes Lots of evidence highlighting its use as an outcome measure is helpful. #OTalk

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: @Symbolic_Life When it first came out OTs were embracing it due to participation element. Now there is more critique. #OTalk

kilner100
RT @Bethanhc: ICF measures disability. I don’t want to be measured, thanks. I want to have equal rights, equal access and meaningful occupa…

TherapistOT
@jeanahpm @BillWongOT I think most course cover it 🙂 but because its not really adopted in practice it is often seen as irrelevant #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@Bethanhc I think I’m in need to search the critique to create a sound opinion for my learning 🙂 #otalk

jm78uk
@Bethanhc now we are talking about OT! #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@TherapistOT I can see how it would be useful for this, as you said in your artilce, as an initial template for considering all areas #otalk

kirstyes
@Bethanhc @TherapistOT @Sibellgul Is it sensitive enough to capture changes made by OT intervention in all settings? #OTalk

TherapistOT
@Dai2584 I don’t think its widely used at all …like a lot theory!! #otalk

kirstyes
RT @Bethanhc: ICF measures disability. I don’t want to be measured, thanks. I want to have equal rights, equal access and meaningful occupa…

Maria_Markland
@Symbolic_Life @Bethanhc Me too Michelle! But this chat is a good start! 🙂 #OTalk

kilner100
@Maria_Markland @TherapistOT yes I thought that sounded useful, but then a proper OT model wld do that and include #occupation #otalk

Bethanhc
@jm78uk Yet OTs (who think they know about disability) are obsessed with it! Nothing to do with real-life disability. #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
Does our models incorporate principles of ICF? I know the AUSTOMS assessments do #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
RT @kilner100: @Maria_Markland @TherapistOT yes I thought that sounded useful, but then a proper OT model wld do that and include #occupati

Symbolic_Life
@Maria_Markland @Bethanhc I agree 🙂 #otalk

TherapistOT
@jm78uk @Bethanhc I utilise it from a social constructionist perspective & also like to draw on a Deleuzian perspective! #otalk

kilner100
@Maria_Markland @TherapistOT is the main benefit in practice, given the critiques, that it uses language others understand? #otalk

Bethanhc
@Maria_Markland @Symbolic_Life Around 2001 – 2005 there were a whole rake of articles in AJOT, beginning with positive ones. #OTalk

BillWongOT
RT @Maria_Markland: @Symbolic_Life @Bethanhc Me too Michelle! But this chat is a good start! 🙂 #OTalk

BillWongOT
When I discuss the term occupation in other languages, I use a round about way to do it so that people can understand. #otalk

kirstyes
RT @Symbolic_Life: Does our models incorporate principles of ICF? I know the AUSTOMS assessments do #OTalk

BillWongOT
In my setting, I have to think of using the term occupation in Cantonese and Mandarin, too. #welcomechallenge #otalk

BillWongOT
A challenge for me to use ICF for my practice is my own knowledge in it. It’s not as second nature as MOHO or PEO. #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: @Maria_Markland @Symbolic_Life Around 2001 – 2005 there were a whole rake of articles in AJOT, beginning with positive ones. …

kirstyes
@TherapistOT @jm78uk @Bethanhc and a Deleuzian perspective is?? #otalk

TherapistOT
@BillWongOT that is what I seemed to gather from reports of US utilisation #otalk

jm78uk
Useful to view the structure &function domains as knowledge. Then client narratives should be about activity, participation & enviro #OTalk

BillWongOT
RT @Symbolic_Life: Does our models incorporate principles of ICF? I know the AUSTOMS assessments do #OTalk

Bethanhc
@Symbolic_Life OT models focus on occupation: ICF measures impact of health in terms of “activity” and “participation. Different #OTalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes I think PEO and Moho do. #otalk

Bethanhc
@BillWongOT Nor should it be! You are an OT not a health researcher!! #OTalk

kirstyes
@BillWongOT sorry Bill, not sure which tweet this is referring to #otalk

Bethanhc
@jm78uk Trouble is that ICF forgets about narratives and lived experience… #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
@Bethanhc are the definitions of activity and participation specified? Do you not feel the models have a relation to its principles? #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @jm78uk: Useful to view the structure &function domains as knowledge. Then client narratives should be about activity, participation & …

Bethanhc
ICF doesn’t reflect diversity of experience in participation for one individual (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk

TherapistOT
@kirstyes @jm78uk @Bethanhc read Capitalism & Schizophrenia pt1 & especially pt2 :1000 Plateaus it will blow your mind 🙂 #otalk

BillWongOT
What I mean by that is- I will present what occupation means first in these languages. Then, I will introduce the term. #otalk

BillWongOT
In my example, I think being aware of the context of how we may introduce the term occupation is key. #otalk

BillWongOT
@Bethanhc I personally didn’t like how the ICF was introduced as an FYI item, though, in my OT education. #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@BillWongOT to advocation and role yes! #otalk

kirstyes
.@Bethanhc @jm78uk Surely this is where clinical application comes in and where we as therapists should fill the substantial gaps #OTalk

BillWongOT
@kirstyes the question you posted a few minutes ago. #otalk

Bethanhc
Participation “linked to individual circumstances rather than grounded in social and political inclusion” (Barnes & Mercer 2004) #OTalk

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: ICF doesn’t reflect diversity of experience in participation for one individual (Henningsson & Jonsson 2005) #otalk

kirstyes
.@TherapistOT @jm78uk @Bethanhc Not sure my mind can cope with being more blown at the moment. I will bookmark the tweet for later #otalk

Symbolic_Life
RT @Bethanhc: Participation “linked to individual circumstances rather than grounded in social and political inclusion” (Barnes & Mercer 2…

TherapistOT
@kirstyes @Bethanhc @jm78uk yes I see it as a flawed tool but aren’t they all #otalk

kirstyes
@Bethanhc By diversity of experience here do you mean variations in participation, different meanings and levels based on context? #OTalk

BillWongOT
Hard to be at lunch and be on the lookout for time to resume work and participate at #otalk at the same time. Thank goodness to pre-tweets!

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: Participation “linked to individual circumstances rather than grounded in social and political inclusion” (Barnes & Mercer 2…

Bethanhc
@Symbolic_Life very clearly defined. All about impact of illness on a list of “activities” and domains of “participation” #OTalk

kirstyes
@BillWongOT I’ve posted a few Bill sorry this isn’t linking back to them in my app. Not to worry. #otalk

BillWongOT
The reason we have to set good examples to placement students is because we have power to influence students as they are learning. #otalk

BillWongOT
Not only we have to demonstrate to our clients/families, but also to placement students! #otalk 2/2

BillWongOT
I think as professionals, we have to set examples to be smart consumers of information (ESP. Regarding changes/new dev.) 1/2 #otalk

kirstyes
@TherapistOT @Bethanhc @jm78uk The more look at them the more I think yes. Why it’s so important to develop critical analysis skills #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: @Symbolic_Life very clearly defined. All about impact of illness on a list of “activities” and domains of “participation” #O

TherapistOT
@Bethanhc @jm78uk like the acknowledgement of constant dynamism & flux inlife,a tool that can help to extract me from my assumptions #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@Bethanhc ok so if im on the right line.. It’s not informing occupation in accordance with performance. #otalk

Bethanhc
@kirstyes & subjective meaning and interpretation. Assumes that participation is stable for an individual Paper is very good – AJOT #OTalk

Symbolic_Life
RT @Bethanhc: @kirstyes & subjective meaning and interpretation. Assumes that participation is stable for an individual Paper is very good …

Sibellgul
Would have been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @Bethanhc#OTalk

PatriciaRegan
Learned ICF doing a multidisciplinary MSc in Disability Studies, useful in academic discussion but OT models used at work#OTalk

TherapistOT
@Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life different but with similarities 🙂 #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: @kirstyes & subjective meaning and interpretation. Assumes that participation is stable for an individual Paper is very good …

Bethanhc
ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I think #otalk

TherapistOT
RT @kirstyes: @TherapistOT @Bethanhc @jm78uk The more look at them the more I think yes. Why it’s so important to develop critical analysis…

Symbolic_Life
RT @Bethanhc: ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I th…

Bethanhc
Some disability activists (eg Pfeiffer) called for its abolition as it “does not conform to the minority group paradigm” #otalk

danbrunetti
Forgotten about #otalk watching #greatbritishbakeoff …it’s an occupation!

kilner100
@Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life oops! #otalk is icf focus on impact of illness on participation rather than of part’n on health. #ot #interesting

Sibellgul
Would’ve been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @Bethanhc #OTalk

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I th…

BillWongOT
RT @Bethanhc: Some disability activists (eg Pfeiffer) called for its abolition as it “does not conform to the minority group paradigm” #ot

BillWongOT
In services/journal clubs are helpful because it will be good to hear everyone’s opinions about impending changes. #otalk

BillWongOT
Another thing that will be helpful- schedule in-services and/or journal clubs at our workplace. #otalk

kirstyes
@Bethanhc Do you have rough title – I’m trying to find it to provide link #otalk – thanks

Sibellgul
RT @Bethanhc: ICF still assumes that disability is primarily a product of health/impairment (Waddell & Burton 2004) – that is an issue I th…

Bethanhc
@Symbolic_Life It’s not about occupation. Participation is pc word for “handicap”, which was in the ICIDH, upon which ICF is based #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @Sibellgul: Would’ve been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @…

TherapistOT
@kirstyes @Bethanhc @jm78uk emptiness of the ICF transaction can be inhabited by the unique detail of the person:support analysis #otalk

BillWongOT
RT @Sibellgul: Would’ve been interesting to see the if the outcome would be different with using ICF for Ini.Ax and other Ax @TherapistOT @…

Bethanhc
@kilner100 @Symbolic_Life Yes! about how illness and the environment can restrict “participation” #OTalk

kirstyes
Ten minute warning for #otalk@TherapistOT Any final questions you’d like to get people discussing?

TherapistOT
@Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life that’s not how the WHO define it #otalk

Symbolic_Life
@Bethanhc I think we got our wires crossed but I now understand, thank you #otalk

Bethanhc
@kirstyes Critical reflection of impact of the environment in ICF or something like that – can look it up and DM. #OTalk

kilner100
@Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life ouch! That puts a different spin on it. Need to read the detail not assume the words mean the same #otalk

BillWongOT
If we want to go beyond our workplace, we should do conference presentations on such topics! #otalk

jm78uk
Thanks for the chat! I need to dash. #otalk

TherapistOT
@Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life you can use the mechanism without diagnosis, all the components are in a transaction equally weighted #otalk

kilner100
@Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life is there a danger then that professions use the same words in icf but mean different things? #otalk

Symbolic_Life
Thanks for the chat was great I’ve lots to think about / learn. #OTalk

PatriciaRegan
@BillWongOT I agree, but I find ICF in academic discussion, OT models in use in all workplaces I’ve been in #OTalk

kilner100
RT @danbrunetti: Forgotten about #otalk watching #greatbritishbakeoff …it’s an occupation! Trying to do both. #occupationalBalance

Symbolic_Life
@kilner100 @Bethanhc impacting advocating OT meaning and work roles! #otalk

PatriciaRegan
@kilner100 @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life Definitely, I learned ICF in multidisciplinary setting, was open to interpretation #OTalk

BillWongOT
Another take home point is- for those of us who are placement educators, setting good examples is vital, ESP. Regarding changes #otalk

BillWongOT
My take home point is- ICF has its place in OT. I think educators play very important role in introducing it to students. #otalk

kirstyes
RT @kilner100: @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life ouch! That puts a different spin on it. Need to read the detail not assume the words mean the same …

Symbolic_Life
RT @Bethanhc: Some disability activists (eg Pfeiffer) called for its abolition as it “does not conform to the minority group paradigm” #ot

kirstyes
@kilner100 @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life Yes very important to make sure we are all speaking the same language-glossary first thing to see #otalk

kilner100
@Bethanhc @kirstyes wld welcome the ref. Sounds useful #otalk. Lots to think about, thanks for the chat!

kirstyes
@jm78uk Thanks so much for your ‘participation’ #OTalk

kirstyes
RT @TherapistOT: @Bethanhc @Symbolic_Life you can use the mechanism without diagnosis, all the components are in a transaction equally wei…

Sibellgul
Well said. But in our day to day practice our vision might get blurred and narrow our practice stale @jm78uk @TherapistOT @kirstyes #OTalk

kirstyes
@kilner100 @Bethanhc I’ve tweeted it #OTalk

PatriciaRegan
@Sibellgul I agree #OTalk

kirstyes
Ok folks – we are out of #otalk time and I need to head off too. Thanks @TherapistOT for hosting and to everyone for a good variety of views

Sibellgul
RT @TherapistOT: #OTalk & I think it was a revolutionary move for the WHO & let them catch up with our theory 🙂

kirstyes
So next week I believe is @pd2ot and looking at When OT Goes Wrong!! #otalk – Could be good fun. Welcome service user views for this one.

PatriciaRegan
@TherapistOT ICF could do with updating alright, but was on the right track:) #OTalk thanks for hosting

pd2ot
@kirstyes I am indeed! I’ll create a bit of a blog post tomorrow to prompt thinking on the subject #OTalk

Maria_Markland
@kirstyes @TherapistOT Thanks all! Enjoyed hearing your different views on the use/possible manner of use of ICF & its r/ship to OT #OTalk

kirstyes
@Ononjamcon Hi I’ve not used it clinically. Can be used as outcome measure. Take a look at #otalk tweets for last hour for more info

Bird20116
RT @jm78uk: Useful to view the structure &function domains as knowledge. Then client narratives should be about activity, participation & …

Sibellgul
It doesn’t claim that. it enables me to see the ‘environment’ as for being dynamic and adaptable @TherapistO @Bethanhc @jm78uk #OTalk

kirstyes
@pd2ot great. Will @IamCarrieeeeee be joining us? #otalk

kirstyes
@Maria_Markland @TherapistOT thanks Maria. It’s something that I need to read about more too. #otalk

Maria_Markland
@kirstyes @pd2ot Great topic! Sad to miss it! I’m busy assisting with an anxiety management group for placement. Will join in after #OTalk

pd2ot
@Maria_Markland we’d love to have your views on the blog (when it’s done!) #Otalk @kirstyes

kirstyes
@Ononjamcon bless you. I’ll post the transcript on the blog in the next couple of days. #otalk

Maria_Markland
@pd2ot @kirstyes Will do! It’s going to be great from a student perspective to hear about OT going wrong and learning from it! #otalk

Maria_Markland
RT @pd2ot: @Maria_Markland we’d love to have your views on the blog (when it’s done!) #Otalk @kirstyes

morrisKOT
@Bethanhc @TherapistOT sorry i missed it! #Otalk

Symbolic_Life
@itsmefrarah if can be confusing I’m still learning. Last night chat was rather insightful though. #otalk

BillWongOT
@Maria_Markland or do what I have been doing- I pre-tweet the night before. You can have them show up at #otalk time.

Dalton44x62
@Mr_SoFar_Gone http://t.co/LmOxvxoTz8

KarenIvey
@DrWMB wrote a competency document 10 years ago using the ICF it’s still relevant today so it stands the test of time as well #OTalk

DrWMB
“@KarenIvey: @DrWMB wrote a competency document 10 years ago using the ICF – still relevant today #OTalk” thanks Karen

 

Transcript: #OTalk “When Occupational Therapy Goes Wrong” (17 September 2013)

This week’s #OTalk, hosted by @pd2ot, provided a space to reflect on and learn from experiences of occupational therapy “going wrong”. I (@clissa89) found this conversation valuable and thought-provoking. Below are a selection of tweets from the chat. The full transcript can be read here: (link/PDF).

Resources:

http://pd2ot.wordpress.com/2013/09/11/when-occupational-therapy-goes-wrong/

http://pd2ot.wordpress.com/2012/05/21/ot-is-for-thick-people/

http://shamelessotgeek.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/when-occupational-therapy-goes-right/

http://shamelessotgeek.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/dearmentalhealthprofessionals/

 

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