#OTalk 18th September 2012- #DLA migration to #PIP, with guest host @BendyGirl

 #OTalk – Personal Independence Payment (PIP)

Date:   18/09/2012  Host: @BendyGirl

Blog Post  –  Transcript 


#OTalk with @BendyGirl!

This week the #OTalk crew were lucky enough to be able to draw on the expertise of one of the UK’s most prominent and effective campaigners about welfare reform, Kaliya Franklin, who Tweets as @BendyGirl.

What are #DLA and #PIP?

Disability Living Allowance or DLA is a benefit designed to help disabled people meet the extra costs that are related to operating with a disability in a society that is still far from fully accessible. It has two elements, one for Care, one for Mobility, and people can receive different amounts depending on their level of need. It is paid to people in work and currently not working- it is not means tested. Indeed, even multi-millionaires such as David Cameron (the Prime Minister) have claimed this benefit. He claimed on behalf of a disabled dependent, possibly as it also acts as a gateway benefit to other facilities for disabled people, such as bus passes or “Blue Badges” that are needed to park in Disabled parking bays. The new PIP benefit has stricter qualification criteria, and many disabled people are fearful that their meagre benefits will be reduced below subsistence levels.

Why do OTs need to know about #DLA and #PIP?

We wanted to learn more about how the proposed changes to the disability benefit DLA (Disability Living Allowance). The Government is going to replace this with the new PIP (Personal Independence Payment), and they would like OTs to be at the forefront of assessment for this new benefit. However, the OT community has not been very vocal about what they feel about this change, which has far-reaching implications for the lives of disabled people. The stated aim of the change is to remove any element of fostering dependency from within the welfare system, but the Government expects to reduce the claimant count by 20% by performing this change. Current rates of fraud within the DLA system stand at 0.5%.

Essential #OTalk Tweets

I have selected an entirely subjective selection of Tweets that I feel illustrate the tone of the chat and some of the opinions, if you’re in a quick break, this is your 5 minute summary of an hour long conversation!

If you have about 40 minutes, I recommend getting a cup of tea and reading the full archive of the chat as there was so much useful information shared. You can find it below.

The Grabchat

Scroll down to read the full archived chat to enjoy the #OTalk experience if you missed it- it was great to have such a range of different voices in the chat, including many different HCP as well as OTs and disabled people and carers. Thank you to everyone who contributed their voice and their thoughts and opinions for the benefit of the community we all learned so much from each other.

Involved …

@claireOT @BendyGirl @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @BigPawedBear @BillWongOT @MatthewDoye @clissa89 @CatherinBrunton @MelissaUnsworth @swiftremedies @KathyCrawford14 @SarahMapstone @Ermintrude2 @christoclifford @itsmotherswork @tigrez @bobcollinsOT @Inkysloth @Helen_otuk @LeonoraOT @amy_blue82 @cathbore @OT_Expert @LibDemSimon @imthenicenurse @Barbsisi @narco_sam @OTalk_Occhat @BAOTCOT @living_as_if @chaniwani @jimmymumu @evilgiraffe20 @BlackVanDyke @impeycares @falcos2012 @CNMHP @BernaMeaden @WeNurses @AgencyNurse @tymawr50 @RiseandRecline @mdfdisability @FordCarole @Hossylass @stairliftscheme @WiLLcAmP19 @THemingford @Alisonraw

Top resources …

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Related tags …

#otalk #pip #dla #otuesday #ot

See Twitter for more tweets, people, videos and photos for #OTalk

@kirstyes @claireOT sounds like this is good prep for Tuesdays #OTalk .(Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:33:52 +0100)
@Alisonraw @rhidianhughes Not that I am aware of apart from #Otalk #Otuesday , any ideas to include all 12 of us? collective noun for AHPs?(Fri, 14 Sep 2012 18:47:45 +0100)
@rhidianhughes RT @Alisonraw : @rhidianhughes Not that I am aware of apart from #Otalk #Otuesday , any ideas to include all 12 of us? collective noun for …(Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:11:05 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes lol and that include #otalk . you can’t get rid of me easily! I just need to adapt to time zone lol(Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:03:58 +0100)
@clissa89 #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @bendygirl @ClaireOT (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:10:43 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @clissa89 : #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @ben …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:13:00 +0100)
@living_as_if RT @clissa89 : #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @ben …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:13:49 +0100)
@impeycares RT @clissa89 : #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @ben …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:14:05 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat Join #OTalk tonight 8pm to discuss what the new Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will mean for practitioners… http://t.co/ZS2oX1Tv (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:19:04 +0100)
@allisulli @OTalk_Occhat : #OTalk tonight 3pmEST: what the new Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will mean for practitioners… http://t.co/Fcy0fVwx “(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:25:44 +0100)
@clissa89 #OTalk RT @AspieMum : @clissa89 @bendygirl @ClaireOT PIPs won’t help Autistics, etc or anyone who’s not bedbound from what I’ve read.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:26:48 +0100)
@clissa89 @AspieMum @bendygirl @ClaireOT I know nothing about PIP if I’m honest, which is why tonight’s #OTalk will be good. Join us if you can :)(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:27:36 +0100)
@clissa89 @Amazonnewsmedia hi there it’s 8-9pm BST. Would be great if you could join us #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:33:18 +0100)
@clissa89 @BendyGirl thanks for the RT – really pleased you’re co-hosting! Not sure if I will make it though 😦 moving #OTuesday #OTalk #nurchat (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:33:54 +0100)
@clissa89 @Ermintrude2 hi there, have you got time to join us 8-9pm tonight to discuss PIP? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:35:58 +0100)
@Ermintrude2 RT @clissa89 : @Ermintrude2 hi there, have you got time to join us 8-9pm tonight to discuss PIP? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:37:07 +0100)
@clissa89 @BMarav it will be happening 8-9pm on Twitter using the hashtag #OTalk , hope you can make it :)(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:38:47 +0100)
@welshleek_68 RT @clissa89 : #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @ben …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:42:30 +0100)
@Amazonnewsmedia @clissa89 cheers, hope to turn up later. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:43:39 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat Join #OTalk tonight 8pm to discuss what the new Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will mean for practitioners… http://t.co/v4TAbSrS (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:48:10 +0100)
@Ermintrude2 RT @OTalk_Occhat : Join #OTalk tonight 8pm to discuss what the new Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will mean for practitioners… htt …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:53:19 +0100)
@clissa89 @annatreloar hi there, it’s 8pm UK time. If you join this event http://t.co/duiVOUoW it should say your local time. 5.5hrs #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:25:41 +0100)
@BAOTCOT Tonight’s #OTalk at 8pm is about the new PIP, and will be held together with nurse chat #nurchat . Details in the following RT… #OTuesday (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:35:40 +0100)
@BAOTCOT RT @OTalk_Occhat : Join #OTalk tonight 8pm to discuss what the new Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will mean for practitioners… htt …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:35:45 +0100)
@LDHighland RT @clissa89 : #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @ben …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:51:26 +0100)
@AbdullahMozain RT @BAOTCOT : Tonight’s #OTalk at 8pm is about the new PIP, and will be held together with nurse chat #nurchat . Details in the following …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:58:20 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @BAOTCOT : Tonight’s #OTalk at 8pm is about the new PIP, and will be held together with nurse chat #nurchat . Details in the following …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:06:00 +0100)
@BendyGirl @Spoonydoc It is also news to me… we can but hope! Oh, if you’re about this eve I’m doing #OTalk at 8pm on #PIP be great if you join in?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:53:38 +0100)
@clissa89 #OTalk with @BendyGirl in 30 mins on the new Personal Independence Payment #PIP replacing DLA – sorry I won’t be there #OTuesday #nurshift (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:29:22 +0100)
@Ermintrude2 RT @clissa89 : #OTalk with @BendyGirl in 30 mins on the new Personal Independence Payment #PIP replacing DLA – sorry I won’t be there #OT …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:29:31 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @clissa89 : #OTalk with @BendyGirl in 30 mins on the new Personal Independence Payment #PIP replacing DLA – sorry I won’t be there #OT …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:29:35 +0100)
@clissa89 @itsmotherswork you may be interested in #OTalk about #PIP in half an hour 🙂 hope you’re well(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:31:27 +0100)
@gilliancrossley interested in tonights #otalk I don’t know a whole heap on this! so interested to hear more.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:50:37 +0100)
@BendyGirl think we’re about to start tonight’s #OTalk on what the new #PIP will mean for practitioners. Should be interesting for welfare/disabled too(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:58:44 +0100)
@BendyGirl I’m not really sure how the #OTalk format works so please bear with me if I’m making mistakes(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:00:51 +0100)
@claireOT Hello all at #OTalk – just scraped in under the wire with working broadband! who is here to talk about #DLA and #PIP ?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:01:08 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @claireOT : Hello all at #OTalk – just scraped in under the wire with working broadband! who is here to talk about #DLA and #PIP ?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:01:39 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl I’m here too, Kali, and the #OTalk crew are friendly- provided they’ve had cake…(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:02:50 +0100)
@BendyGirl @claireOT Hello! Knew we’d forget something…posting out the cake 😉 #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:03:26 +0100)
@claireOT @clissa89 we’re raring to go for #OTalk – hope you can join us to discuss #PIP and #DLA ? @agencynurse @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:03:50 +0100)
@SarahMapstone Hi #otalk , I’m ready for the chat on DLA and PIP(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:04:16 +0100)
@BendyGirl So, what, if anything do people know about #PIP the planned replacement for #DLA ? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:04:33 +0100)
@BillWongOT Hi everyone! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:05:01 +0100)
@BendyGirl Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:05:28 +0100)
@itsmotherswork @claireOT @BendyGirl
*waves*
Trying to view two chats at once, so I’ll be here intermittently.#OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:05:48 +0100)
@claireOT @BMarav We’ll put transcript from the chat and any useful #OTalk links go up on the http://t.co/CZJu3LNq blog soon @clissa89 @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:05:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BendyGirl Through some help of @gilliancrossley . I found the US equivalent to PIP, which is SSDI. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:06:11 +0100)
@claireOT @SarahMapstone Hi Sarah, welcome to #OTalk , have you much experience dealing with worries about #DLA migration to #PIP ?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:02 +0100)
@OT_Expert RT @claireOT : @clissa89 we’re raring to go for #OTalk – hope you can join us to discuss #PIP and #DLA ? @agencynurse @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:12 +0100)
@BendyGirl @BillWongOT @gilliancrossley Its been a long time since I checked the US system but I think SSDI closer to #DLA the current benefit #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:23 +0100)
@Ermintrude2 @BendyGirl am keeping an eye on #OTalk but don’t know as much as I should so interested to learn(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:24 +0100)
@claireOT @BillWongOT Hi Bill, so glad you can join us! we’re talking about an aspect of UK Welfare Reform, people with disabilities #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:47 +0100)
@BillWongOT This is what I mean by SSDI http://t.co/k91ciFM4 #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:53 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:07:53 +0100)
@BigPawedBear hi all from my reading of the current draft regs, if u can do less for yourself u get more assistance under #pip . #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:08:28 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl yes- it would be great to find out what GP’s and #wenurses think about #PIP coma and join #OTalk , all!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:08:28 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @SarahMapstone just seen! Just add #otalk your tweets will be seen! open another window with a search on #otalk u will see the chat(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:08:47 +0100)
@BendyGirl The current benefit #DLA is assessed by HCP’s; typically Dr’s, nurses, physio’s #PIP is intended be primarily OT assessed #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:08:58 +0100)
@claireOT @itsmotherswork you go girl! if you miss anything you can always catch up on the blog after x #OTalk @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:08:59 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @SarahMapstone and great to have you!! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:04 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:10 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @claireOT : @BendyGirl yes- it would be great to find out what GP’s and #wenurses think about #PIP coma and join #OTalk , all!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:12 +0100)
@OT_Expert @claireOT @clissa89 @agencynurse @bendygirl Sorry, I can’t take part in tonight’s chat. Will catch up after though – happy tweeting #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:29 +0100)
@Inkysloth RT @BendyGirl : So, what, if anything do people know about #PIP the planned replacement for #DLA ? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:43 +0100)
@claireOT @BillWongOT I’d love the link to find out more- and are there political issues around welfare as in UK? #OTalk @BendyGirl @gilliancrossley (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:49 +0100)
@kirstyes Hi #OTalk , sorry I’m late. Will catch up.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:09:59 +0100)
@BigPawedBear perverse incentives not to aquire independence under #pip #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:07 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @MelissaUnsworth yay!! if you open another window you can see the chat if search #otalk and include in tweets! : ) great to have you here!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:13 +0100)
@claireOT @Ermintrude2 you’re very welcome- and I’m sure we will all learn lots from each other tonight! #OTalk #PIP @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:30 +0100)
@BendyGirl . @BillWongOT from a quick glance I’d say the equivalent is closer to SSI #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:31 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BigPawedBear : hi all from my reading of the current draft regs, if u can do less for yourself u get more assistance under #pip . #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:52 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BendyGirl @gilliancrossley Actually there r still some similarities, based on how I understand it from my psychosoc instructor in OT #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:09 +0100)
@BendyGirl MT @BigPawedBear : from reading of the current draft regs, if u can do less for yourself u get more assistance under #pip . #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:22 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @BigPawedBear : perverse incentives not to aquire independence under #pip #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:37 +0100)
@gilliancrossley Is excited to have my nurse friends @MelissaUnsworth @SarahMapstone join an #OTalk for the first time : )(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:49 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl yes- it’s interesting to see that this is an expanding area of practice for OTs, anybody looking to move into it? #Otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:11:53 +0100)
@BendyGirl @jimmymumu Could you tweet that using the #OTalk tag please so ppl can follow?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:12:16 +0100)
@claireOT @OT_Expert Thanks! catch up on the blog after, and do Tweet any questions whenever- no time limit! #OTalk #PIP (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:12:40 +0100)
@BigPawedBear Pip penalises already independent disabled people, january’s regs and thresholds case studies prooved that ## #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:12:54 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BigPawedBear : perverse incentives not to aquire independence under #pip #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:13:05 +0100)
@BendyGirl . @claireOT I wonder, do OT’s realise the controversy surrounding the role & concerns with current welfare assess? #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:13:21 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @BigPawedBear : Pip penalises already independent disabled people, januarys regs and thresholds case studies prooved that #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:13:34 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BigPawedBear well, but US also has something called negative income tax http://t.co/haP9RDZY #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:13:40 +0100)
@claireOT @gilliancrossley @MelissaUnsworth @SarahMapstone yay! nurses most welcome to this #OTalk and any others you ever fancy joining… #PIP (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:13:49 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BigPawedBear : Pip penalises already independent disabled people, january’s regs and thresholds case studies prooved that ## #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:14:06 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @KathyCrawford14 @MelissaUnsworth open a 2nd tab and search #otalk add the tag to replies of tweets : )(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:14:14 +0100)
@Jules_Clarke @bendygirl #Otalk Personal Independence Payments – The Points needed and explained http://t.co/VDWPZk9V (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:14:49 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl I’m hoping that this talk will be a way of helping OTs to understand the political context of this proposed new work #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:14:52 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @Jules_Clarke : @bendygirl #Otalk Personal Independence Payments – The Points needed and explained http://t.co/VDWPZk9V (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:15:22 +0100)
@SarahMapstone #otalk Under the rules of DLA you have to have been suffering from a disabling condition for 3 months before you can claim. Under the PIP…(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:15:23 +0100)
@claireOT @Jules_Clarke @bendygirl thanks for the link x #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:15:51 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @claireOT @BendyGirl huge role for OT! but who are the “trained independent accessors” ? I hope OT involved! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:15:57 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @bendygirl yes my concern would be having to follow certain guidelines rather than using prof judgement of true needs #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:07 +0100)
@SarahMapstone #otalk rules you have to be suffering from the condition for 6 months and be expected to have the condition for at least 6 months……(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:18 +0100)
@mdfdisability @BendyGirl our team and project partners has a briefing from DWP tomorrow. Interested in how different people will view it #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:21 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BigPawedBear Similar to SSDI in a sense, too. Being a person w/ disability, if I become an OT, I know I won’t receive benefits. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:24 +0100)
@BigPawedBear for instance, a man who lost sight would not want to improove his indpendence,4fear of losing #pip #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:24 +0100)
@claireOT Information about the new #PIP benefit: http://t.co/D7NYJPEN #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:24 +0100)
@BendyGirl From @jules_clarke #PIP the points needed & explained #OTalk http://t.co/QbbM6exL (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:16:25 +0100)
@Ermintrude2 RT @claireOT : Information about the new #PIP benefit: http://t.co/D7NYJPEN #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:17:15 +0100)
@BigPawedBear trouble is govt tried to say indpendence was not penalised under draft regs, hahaha rubbish #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:17:24 +0100)
@BendyGirl . @bobcollinsOT Important concern. All assessors will be expected to make decisions based on 1 off assessment & info on form #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:17:25 +0100)
@SarahMapstone #otalk Those with mental illness are at a disadvantage under the new rules as their illness often fluctuates and they have periods when….(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:17:28 +0100)
@kirstyes MT? @bobcollinsOT : @BendyGirl rather benefit entitlement assessed by people who know the person best.I’d feel awkward coming in cold? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:17:35 +0100)
@jimmymumu @bendygir #OTalk not liking the proposed 500,000 disabled people losing what little help they get. Don’t mention mobility probs for 100.000(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:18:06 +0100)
@SarahMapstone #otalk they are well and symptom free. Losing the benefits they now rely on could cause them to have a relapse in their mental illness.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:18:28 +0100)
@BigPawedBear i think the rules have been changed from the six month qualifying period now to 3. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:18:29 +0100)
@BendyGirl #PIP will be assessed under v strict framework allowing no real independent judgement. How will #OT ‘s feel about that? #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:18:37 +0100)
@BendyGirl Also, the stated aim is to remove 500,000 currently entitled to #DLA from #PIP Does that fit with OT’s enabling goals? #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:19:16 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @BendyGirl @bobcollinsOT #otalk what is ability fluctuates? is it based on how it is that day? that concerns me!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:19:18 +0100)
@claireOT @gilliancrossley the contract is likely to go to one of the big bidders- Capitas or ATOS, who will then employ HCP to Ax #OTalk #PIP (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:19:22 +0100)
@BigPawedBear there are meant to be some new regs and things coming out for pip in autumn #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:20:01 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT first comment is it is good that it highlights can be in work and still receive. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:20:06 +0100)
@claireOT RT @jimmymumu : @bendygir #OTalk not liking the proposed 500,000 disabled people losing what little help they get. Don’t mention mobility …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:20:21 +0100)
@BendyGirl @SimonHurst Occupational Therapists, they’re the main group intended do the face to face assessments for #PIP #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:20:43 +0100)
@claireOT @gilliancrossley the guidance notes say descriptor used should b the one more usually describing situ #OTalk @BendyGirl @bobcollinsOT (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:21:42 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BendyGirl From an outsider point of view, that’s bs because u need an honest eval. of how some1 is functioning at work #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:21:43 +0100)
@BendyGirl MT @claireOT : @gilliancrossley contract is likely go to one of big bidders- Capita or ATOS, who will employ HCP to Ax #OTalk #PIP #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:21:50 +0100)
@kirstyes For the scoring can more than 1 in each bit be ticked? E.g.Can only use a microwave and needs aid or all mutually exclusive #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:07 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @BendyGirl no clinical judgement within guidelines? Could OTs use clinical reasoning to inform any decision? or simply tick box? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:12 +0100)
@KathyCrawford14 #otalk Thanks for the invite @gilliancrossley . I hope @MelissaUnsworth and Sarah are here too 🙂 x(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:26 +0100)
@Inkysloth #pip will penalise functional independence, even if achieved with mobility aids or equipment – where’s the sense in it?! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:38 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BendyGirl @SimonHurst just curious… has there been occupational therapists lobbying for their role in this to UK government? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:40 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes yes, should be available to people in work. However, being able to get to work may disqualify for #PIP ! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:54 +0100)
@BigPawedBear http://t.co/K1Pvp3x8 for a faq etc. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:56 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : think we’re about to start tonight’s #OTalk on what the new #PIP will mean for practitioners. Should be interesting for w …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:22:56 +0100)
@BendyGirl . @kirstyes AFAIK you’ll have to pick 1 bit & stick with it. Flexibility in judgement isn’t a welfare theme #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:21 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @claireOT : Hello all at #OTalk – just scraped in under the wire with working broadband! who is here to talk about #DLA and #PIP ?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:24 +0100)
@itsmotherswork RT @BigPawedBear : http://t.co/K1Pvp3x8 for a faq etc. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:25 +0100)
@MasonDAutistic I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:40 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes especially since we know that attendance at an ATOS WCA assessment centre means judged functionally able to get to work #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:42 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : So, what, if anything do people know about #PIP the planned replacement for #DLA ? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:50 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @BigPawedBear : http://t.co/K1Pvp3x8 for a faq etc. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:23:52 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:03 +0100)
@jimmymumu @Bendygirl whilst targets are needed surely thought should also be upon help needed .
#OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:08 +0100)
@BigPawedBear there is meant to be a new draft regs in response to january’s thresholds consoltaiton due out in autumn #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:11 +0100)
@itsmotherswork Hopping between two interesting chats tonight – #OTalk (about #PIP ) and #SWSCmedia (about online #ChildAbuse )(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:16 +0100)
@amy_blue82 @claireOT @gilliancrossley some of preferred bidders have been announced already http://t.co/Tx4GBZN8 , inc. ATOS, #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:18 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes this is a particular worry for disabled people as so much including workplaces is still inaccessible for so many #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:18 +0100)
@BendyGirl @BillWongOT @SimonHurst think some at very senior level, for ‘jobbing OT’s’ I don’t think so #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:27 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BendyGirl : @SimonHurst Occupational Therapists, they’re the main group intended do the face to face assessments for #PIP #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:24:31 +0100)
@hooker1uk RT @BigPawedBear : http://t.co/K1Pvp3x8 for a faq etc. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:05 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @KathyCrawford14 @gilliancrossley I am here observing #otalk Kathy. Can be very useful and interesting for us as nurses to see another view(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:05 +0100)
@MatthewDoye My guess is that OTs come a lot cheaper than other qualified grous #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:08 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @claireOT : @BendyGirl yes- it would be great to find out what GP’s and #wenurses think about #PIP coma and join #OTalk , all!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:14 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : . @BillWongOT from a quick glance I’d say the equivalent is closer to SSI #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:15 +0100)
@BendyGirl MT @Inkysloth : #pip will penalise functional independence, even if achieved w/mobility aids/equipment – wheres sense in it?! #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:21 +0100)
@claireOT @BillWongOT no, these bnefits relate to ability to care for oneself and mobilise. Not related directly to work status #OTalk @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:25 +0100)
@KathyCrawford14 @MelissaUnsworth @gilliancrossley Have just had a read of the PIP and it’s very interesting to see how they score for eligibility. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:37 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Inkysloth that’s bs, too. That can be a disincentive to work in a low wage job, if that’s what all the consumers can do. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:40 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:46 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @Jules_Clarke : @bendygirl #Otalk Personal Independence Payments – The Points needed and explained http://t.co/VDWPZk9V (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:25:56 +0100)
@smalltownmoon RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:26:07 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes only one box can be ticked- and it will be problematic especially for hidden dis. and flucuating conditions #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:26:12 +0100)
@stuckinscared RT @Jules_Clarke : @bendygirl #Otalk Personal Independence Payments – The Points needed and explained http://t.co/VDWPZk9V (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:26:33 +0100)
@BendyGirl Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:26:34 +0100)
@claireOT RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:26:44 +0100)
@catastraspie RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:26:58 +0100)
@imthenicenurse @MasonDAutistic @BendyGirl yes but you still need to be able to PREPARE the food #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:11 +0100)
@claireOT RT @amy_blue82 : @claireOT @gilliancrossley some of preferred bidders have been announced already http://t.co/Tx4GBZN8 , inc. ATOS, #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:16 +0100)
@BillWongOT @claireOT @BendyGirl That’s even worse. Some ind. I know w/autism can do ADL’s and mobilize well. So, they won’t qualify. #Otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:17 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @MatthewDoye : My guess is that OTs come a lot cheaper than other qualified grous #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:22 +0100)
@MargoJMilne @BendyGirl I can’t afford constant microwave meals #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:24 +0100)
@claireOT @amy_blue82 @gilliancrossley thanks for that link, Amy x #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:32 +0100)
@MatthewDoye When I went through the proposed criteria for PIP for myself I may qualify or may not, big drop from Higher mobility Middle care #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:27:46 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @MargoJMilne : @BendyGirl I cant afford constant microwave meals #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:28:03 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:28:12 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @bobcollinsOT @BendyGirl so if assessed as able.. then what?is there support to manage suddenly being told you’re able? #otalk or just no �s(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:28:22 +0100)
@cathbore ‘If Stephen Hawking can work, so can you’ #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:28:27 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl @claireOT yes this wouldbe my main concern. Could we send someone backward through faulty Assessmemt. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:28:28 +0100)
@anwen RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:28:35 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl @bobcollinsot @claireOT I would want to see someone in own environment possibly. Sounds like thisnot allowed. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:29:16 +0100)
@LibDemSimon RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:29:17 +0100)
@BigPawedBear does the meal have to be a micro one? or can it be fresh and cooked in microwave? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:29:28 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @KathyCrawford14 @MelissaUnsworth #otalk do you see anything that concerns you? or that you’re happy to see in there?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:29:45 +0100)
@LibDemSimon RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:29:46 +0100)
@claireOT @la_mutualista thanks for that comment. I wonder if you would feel happy to join in the convo? just add #OTalk to yr tweets! @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:06 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:13 +0100)
@KathyCrawford14 @MelissaUnsworth Yes that’s what I thought. Just had a read an very interesting to see how they score the ADLs x #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:23 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @amy_blue82 @claireOT #otalk thanks I will have a read!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:24 +0100)
@BendyGirl @gilliancrossley @bobcollinsOT These’ll be the ppl who currently fall outside SS care & use #DLA to pay for support not provided #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:25 +0100)
@BigPawedBear dla takes into account maintenance of equpments etc pip won’t #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:31 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : RT @MargoJMilne : @BendyGirl I cant afford constant microwave meals #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:37 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT yes, kind of got that so surprised me they explicitly stated it. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:42 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes @bobcollinsOT @claireOT No, its not. It’ll be in designated assessment centres, eg a room hired in a hospital #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:55 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BendyGirl @SimonHurst Actually, what I imply is the opposite. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:30:56 +0100)
@claireOT @BillWongOT it also should cover socialisation, communication etc, but big worry is its a blunt tool for mh/ LD #OTalk @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:31:17 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Inkysloth yup you did. I mean the system is BS. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:31:37 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @cathbore not everyone is a stephen hawkin though #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:31:41 +0100)
@imthenicenurse @BendyGirl @MasonDAutistic But you’re using a new interepretation of “cook” . Needs clarification before we all assume we’re doomed! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:31:47 +0100)
@Inkysloth #PIP criteria suggests many Autistic people should qualify, but exp. w/ DLA decision makers often ignoring evidence makes me wary #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:31:51 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl @kirstyes @bobcollinsOT and, let’s not forget the timescale involved for the Assessment- 10 a day and write up #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:32:22 +0100)
@BigPawedBear if u have the equipment, u r independent,even if that equipment costs���2maintain #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:32:25 +0100)
@cathbore @gilliancrossley Exactly #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:32:28 +0100)
@Barbsisi RT @itsmotherswork : Hopping between two interesting chats tonight – #OTalk (about #PIP ) and #SWSCmedia (about online #ChildAbuse )(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:32:44 +0100)
@Inkysloth MT @BigPawedBear : if u have the equipment, u r independent , even if that equipment costs ��� 2maintain #OTalk ?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:33:05 +0100)
@Bumblybeebuzz RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:33:09 +0100)
@itsmotherswork @MasonDAutisticThat sounds like a ridiculous judgement. How do they work that out?#OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:33:17 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT but could still score 15 surely even if able to get to centre? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:33:26 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye yes, lots of people are worried and scared, I hope that you feel able to share your feelings with the #OTalk crew x(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:33:34 +0100)
@BillWongOT @SimonHurst @BendyGirl To be clear, I actually mean OT’s that are NOT impressed with it. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:34:24 +0100)
@claireOT @gilliancrossley no- #DLA is a passport benefit e.g. for a bus pass. if no qual. for #PIP , what then? #OTalk @bobcollinsOT @BendyGirl (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:34:31 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes @claireOT could, but probably won’t. Usually attending means mobilising now.. #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:34:33 +0100)
@claireOT RT @cathbore : ‘If Stephen Hawking can work, so can you’ #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:34:36 +0100)
@claireOT @cathbore my dread that this will be the legacy of the Paralympics… #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:34:57 +0100)
@BigPawedBear there was intresting discussion in HOC about PIP recently, said lots of movement from january regs #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:35:04 +0100)
@BillWongOT @SimonHurst @BendyGirl Like in US for medicare and medicaid, OT’s r not impressed with the proposed cuts. So, they lobby for change. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:35:09 +0100)
@kirstyes I’m wondering if actually OTs will be more aware of potential difficulties and ask right question to actually help get the support? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:35:12 +0100)
@narco_sam Have the #OTalk people looked at the guides from wearespartacus to what the last #PIP draft criteria say?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:35:12 +0100)
@BendyGirl @claireOT @cathbore a current HCP advised me they thought they could rule Hawking ineligible for #PIP if they tried to #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:35:34 +0100)
@Barbsisi RT @BigPawedBear : there was intresting discussion in HOC about PIP recently, said lots of movement from january regs #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:35:59 +0100)
@BendyGirl @BillWongOT Ah, that kind of change. Sadly no, apart from a few OT’s as a group have been pretty quiet on this #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:36:04 +0100)
@kirstyes @Inkysloth @claireOT should the assessment in fact be assessing potential extra cost of support needed and offer that? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:36:12 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl @gilliancrossley @bobcollinsOT most LA’s only provide care for those with “substantial” or “critical” care needs #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:36:13 +0100)
@christoclifford RT @BendyGirl : So, what, if anything do people know about #PIP the planned replacement for #DLA ? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:36:28 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @cathbore ThisGov need to start seeing people as individuals not boxes on a form #otalk we need prof reason to be part of asses for ability(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:36:32 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes I think if it were left to OT’s quite possibly, but you’ll be forced to work within v tight points framework #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:36:46 +0100)
@KathyCrawford14 @chaniwani Click on #otalk . Click on the link for the PIP guidelines that the benefit system use to score people on ADLs. Always tag #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:37:04 +0100)
@cathbore @BendyGirl @claireOT Doesn’t surprise me, at all. Very disturbing #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:37:08 +0100)
@christoclifford RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @cathbore a current HCP advised me they thought they could rule Hawking ineligible for #PIP if they tried to #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:37:29 +0100)
@MatthewDoye For those like me whose condition leaves them agoraphobic DLA can pay for someone to take us out, many will loseout #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:37:32 +0100)
@claireOT RT @narco_sam : Have the #OTalk people looked at the guides from wearespartacus to what the last #PIP draft criteria say?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:37:34 +0100)
@claireOT @narco_sam great point Sam, we havent shared the link tonight, yet, but the #OTalk crew would love to read it, I’m sure(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:38:10 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BendyGirl : @BillWongOT Ah, that kind of change. Sadly no, apart from a few OT’s as a group have been pretty quiet on this #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:38:30 +0100)
@BigPawedBear the govt say2assess potential extra costs would be too expencive and would create a non standard situation #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:38:53 +0100)
@kirstyes Why is prompting not scored the same as assistance. Will still need someone there even if physically able? #OTalk who designed ax?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:39:02 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @MatthewDoye How will this be assessed? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:39:03 +0100)
@BillWongOT @BendyGirl That is something I think maybe the #COT should help, like #AOTA does. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:39:09 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @BigPawedBear : the govt say2assess potential extra costs would be too expencive and would create a non standard situation #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:39:25 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl can’t see me being happy with a role like this. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:39:41 +0100)
@mymorevividlife RT @MatthewDoye : For those like me whose condition leaves them agoraphobic DLA can pay for someone to take us out, many will loseout #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:39:55 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes I agree! OTs would have better knowledge! can support people getting the right benefits not ticking boxes #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:06 +0100)
@MatthewDoye RT @kirstyes : Why is prompting not scored the same as assistance. Will still need someone there even if physically able? #OTalk who desi …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:22 +0100)
@claireOT The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:23 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @bendygirl @bobcollinsot 10 a day. How long do you get? I can’t assess someone in less than an hr. more likely need 2/3! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:36 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @kirstyes : @BendyGirl can’t see me being happy with a role like this. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:37 +0100)
@BigPawedBear so the govt say will treat as indeviduals,but then say, no assessment of indevidual dis expencis? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:42 +0100)
@christoclifford RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:44 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes It would be radically different from the role OT’s currently have #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:40:55 +0100)
@frdragonspouse RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:04 +0100)
@KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl #otalk It’s not very nutritious is it, from a nurses ‘promoting health’ perspective. (High salt etc).(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:22 +0100)
@claireOT Given fraud and error rates of #DLA of 0.5% and 1.5%, what do OTs think about that many ~DLA claimants being without support? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:23 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl yes might be penalised for allowing too many people to score too much! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:24 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes @claireOT @bobcollinsOT Less than an hr, & you’ll have to focus on paperwork in that time. Isn’t an OT assess at all #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:37 +0100)
@MatthewDoye @MelissaUnsworth We’ll have to wait for the revised regs to see #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:39 +0100)
@claireOT RT @kirstyes : Why is prompting not scored the same as assistance. Will still need someone there even if physically able? #OTalk who desi …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:50 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:51 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes great point- these are descriptors- designed by civil servants to gatekeep for a benefit. Not Ax as we would call it. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:42:27 +0100)
@BigPawedBear govt say20%caseload needs2b lost from #dla ,they invent #pip2make that happen #otalk .(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:42:30 +0100)
@mushroom772000 RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:42:30 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes that is certainly how Dr’s, nurses etc doing current welfare assessments feel about it #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:42:41 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @bigpawedbear but do you incur extra costs to ensure you can work? #OTalk to me that maybe the issue??(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:42:57 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl Microwave meals long term surely would be detrimental to health #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:43:17 +0100)
@gilliancrossley RT @MatthewDoye : For those like me whose condition leaves them agoraphobic DLA can pay for someone to take us out, many will loseout #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:43:23 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes ATOS HCP are on record stating they have to complete and write up a WCA AX in 45 mins flat #OTalk @bendygirl @bobcollinsot (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:43:26 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl @claireot @bobcollinsot no it isn’t. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:43:28 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @kirstyes @BillWongOT work has no bearing on #pip #otalk .(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:43:40 +0100)
@JohnHolmstrom RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:19 +0100)
@bobcollinsOT @claireOT #Otalk In MH I think there are people who claim DLA which acts as disincentive to find work benefits trap.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:23 +0100)
@BendyGirl RT @MelissaUnsworth : @KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl Microwave meals long term surely would be detrimental to health #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:25 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @bendygirl @bobcollinsot I doubt I could do that that quickly. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:44 +0100)
@christoclifford RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:59 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @BigPawedBear I think if the difference is not huge moneywise, that can be an issue. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:13 +0100)
@christoclifford RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:14 +0100)
@narco_sam @claireOT I always think it’s best to form opinions on good information. Still waiting for result of consultation on #PIP criteria. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:23 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes @claireOT @bobcollinsOT This will be a welfare assessment, does claimant meet criteria, get 10 a day done primary aims #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:24 +0100)
@claireOT @meandme10 this is what we’re all so worried about- please add the #OTalk tag to yr tweets to share with the chat x(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:29 +0100)
@MatthewDoye RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:31 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @MelissaUnsworth @KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl I don’t like micro meals! plus client often pays more that usual food cost not great #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:45:36 +0100)
@BendyGirl @bobcollinsOT @claireOT #DLA isn’t means tested and has no relationship to whether someone works or not #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:46:01 +0100)
@amy_blue82 @bobcollinsOT @claireOT why is it a discincentive? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:46:06 +0100)
@kirstyes @BigPawedBear @billwongot can I clarify Will schemes like access2work still exist? #OTalk
Others saying fact they can go to work wl penalise(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:46:40 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT I’m interested to know why you think that- since they can continue to receive #DLA when in work? #PIP #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:46:49 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @bobcollinsOT @claireOT physical too not just MH. Often MH can be worsened by the stress of working. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:18 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @kirstyes @billwongot access2work will still exist,work status should not affect entitlement2pip. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:22 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl @claireot @bobcollinsot I’m actually swaying to no this isn’t an OT role then. Unless we’ve designed ax and believe in it. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:40 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes Access to work will still exist. You’d be assessing for #PIP tho so no advice giving allowed #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:41 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT I do take your point about low paid work being perilously close to benefit income, but #DLA not out-of-work ben. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:49 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @amy_blue82 the current criteria, as of jan 2012 say that someone who is more disabled gets more help tbc #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:48:14 +0100)
@MatthewDoye Descriptors designed by people that assume everyone has a microwave, #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:48:15 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes Eg if a Dr see’s symptoms of heart failure during WCA assess they can’t say that, but can urge claimant to A&E #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:48:44 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @amy_blue82 @claireOT @bobcollinsOT if tthis person then tries2get more indpeendent, they will lose pip, so that disincentive #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:48:57 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @MatthewDoye or knows how to use one! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:49:24 +0100)
@bobcollinsOT @claireOT #OTalk those not in work have found ways to claim DLA and then never been motivated to work. Less money in when working.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:49:26 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl Remind me of strip wash vs bathing/showering debate! #OTalk poss ok in short term but def not in longer term.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:49:42 +0100)
@claireOT @gilliancrossley a lot of people spend their mid rate care DLA on extra cost of ready made food @MelissaUnsworth @KathyCrawford14 #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:49:42 +0100)
@chaniwani In the assessment is there a strict criteria that isn’t open to individual interpretation ? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:50:41 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes @BendyGirl @claireot @bobcollinsot me to I see the potential. but not if no professional reason or advice required. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:50:53 +0100)
@MatthewDoye @bobcollinsOT @claireOT DLA is irrelevant to work as it’s not means tested. Neither will PIP be #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:50:55 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @bobcollinsOT @claireOT but dla is not an out of work beneifit #otalk .(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:51:00 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @gilliancrossley @KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl I dont know many people that do like microwave meals.unfair to be expected to eat them #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:51:02 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @gilliancrossley : @cathbore ThisGov need to start seeing people as individuals not boxes on a form #otalk we need prof reason to be p …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:51:05 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @amy_blue82 @claireOT @bobcollinsOT well then that is why pip is so important to work, though not strickly work related #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:51:44 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT #DLA is not means tested or withdrawn if someone works. So I don’t understand why you think it’s a disincentive? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:51:46 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT I believe we are occupational beings- that the natural state of humans is to be productive. Absence of that is due to #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:52:24 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes Its very like that, but a bit harsher as it’ll be like the strip wash manage equivalent everywhere in life #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:52:36 +0100)
@BigPawedBear @MatthewDoye @claireOT @bobcollinsOT means testing doesn’t come into it, it’s the test in or out of work and that isn’t applied #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:52:43 +0100)
@MatthewDoye @gilliancrossley I was thinking of the poverty question and right to choose, then there’s that too! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:52:44 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT …occupational dysfunction of some sort- can be due to social deprivation, occupational deprivation, lack of goals, #Otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:53:01 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @MelissaUnsworth @KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl #otalk money saving exercise. No personal care! No choice! all = Gov failing public health.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:53:09 +0100)
@BendyGirl @chaniwani No, it won’t be anything like a typical OT assess process. Strict descriptors & points criteria #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:53:15 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl What?! Are they allowed to intervene if someone has an MI during the assessment? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:53:25 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT I am very wary of the opinion that people are ‘lazy’ or ‘scroungers’ if they don’t work- there’s usually a good reason! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:53:50 +0100)
@chaniwani Should it be lengthier assessment? If a client is having a “good day” they might not score as much as on a “bad day” so may lose out #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:53:51 +0100)
@BendyGirl @chaniwani Basically, yes. There’ll be a tiny bit of indiv interp, but you’ll be expected to fit within tight audit ‘norms’ #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:54:12 +0100)
@BigPawedBear just to reiterate, we are talking about latest draft criteria of jan 2012, new regs etc due out in autumn #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:54:37 +0100)
@claireOT @chaniwani Please see the proposed descriptors here: http://t.co/9uoyzKZ4 or http://t.co/D7NYJPEN #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:54:54 +0100)
@BendyGirl @kirstyes Of course! CPR, 999 etc. But, say they see a dodgy looking mole. They can’t say that, but can say pls see ur GP urgently #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:55:12 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @KathyCrawford14 @claireOT @MelissaUnsworth would love the Gov and trusts to start seeing the bigger picture & the people not just � #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:55:57 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BigPawedBear : just to reiterate, we are talking about latest draft criteria of jan 2012, new regs etc due out in autumn #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:56:14 +0100)
@kirstyes MT? @BigPawedBear : just to reiterate, talking about latest draft criteria of jan 2012,new regs etc due out in autumn #otalk ? Hope big changes(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:56:19 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @gilliancrossley @KathyCrawford14 @BendyGirl Poor diet affects health,well being,motivation. Gov most def failing public health #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:57:26 +0100)
@BigPawedBear though if the drift is anything like the chancellor’s autumn statement due out december, the new regs could b any time at all #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:57:28 +0100)
@BendyGirl MT @claireOT : RT @BigPawedBear :to reiterate, we’re talking about latest draft criteria of jan 2012, new regs etc due in autumn #OTalk #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:57:31 +0100)
@Afl2277 RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:57:41 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT why do you think that is? is it due to their life stories? health concerns? symptoms? socialisation? are they ‘lazy’? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:58:17 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl phew! ;0) was hoping that was the right answer. Won’t the ax be reported to GP. Could they write to GP? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:58:42 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl what about codes of conduct, duty of care etc. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:58:59 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @chaniwani yes thats part of the prob its seems a tick box exercise not individual #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:59:38 +0100)
@claireOT We’re coming up to time, #OTalk , do any of you want to share a factoid you learned/ opinion about #PIP ?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:59:47 +0100)
@BigPawedBear if OTs come under gmc or nmc regulation, then they still got enforceable duty of care #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:00:01 +0100)
@claireOT RT @kirstyes : @BendyGirl what about codes of conduct, duty of care etc. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:00:23 +0100)
@MatthewDoye @claireOT @bobcollinsOT As a MH (plus other) DLA claimant I’d be happy to discuss this further #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:00:35 +0100)
@kirstyes @amy_blue82 @bigpawedbear @billwongot so could have increase funds all over but not able to earn enough to pay poss! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:00:41 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes medics suggested it wasn’t ethical to conduct the WCA Ax- Kali, do you have a link for that? was it RCGP? @BendyGirl #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:01:18 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes @BendyGirl major concern for OT involvement if hinders ability to follow ethics and duty of care. Just to fit criteria #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:01:56 +0100)
@claireOT @BigPawedBear all OTs are registered by the Health Professions Council, and yes, they have strict Codes of Conduct. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:02:10 +0100)
@claireOT @BigPawedBear we also have our own OT Code of Ethics that we are bound to. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:02:38 +0100)
@kirstyes MT ? @amy_blue82 : it makes it harder to cope in work, can’t afford more expensive equip that may allow more hours a week? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:03:24 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye I’m very happy to discuss it- I get where @bobcollinsOT is coming from, but I’m exploring this as an OT… #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:03:30 +0100)
@kirstyes @gilliancrossley @bendygirl totally. Will they have a whistle blowing policy! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:04:08 +0100)
@gilliancrossley very interesting #OTALK !! I have learned lots and have many concerns! #needTolookIntothisMore !(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:04:19 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye … we basically believe all people strive to perform occupations as a basic aspect of humanity. #OTalk @bobcollinsOT (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:04:21 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl Oh I know. Always like to throw these things up tho! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:04:43 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @amy_blue82 @BigPawedBear That I believe people in COT should gather and strategize to make more practical changes. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:04:44 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye … absence of this is due to an occupational problem of some sort- therefore great use of an OT!! #OTalk @bobcollinsOT (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:04:55 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes @BendyGirl I hope so! I can see this money making exercise costing more in fixing the damage it could do! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:05:21 +0100)
@BendyGirl @claireOT @kirstyes It was the BMA, they recently unanimously voted to have WCA immediately stopped #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:05:21 +0100)
@BillWongOT @amy_blue82 @kirstyes @BigPawedBear again, I think that’s where OT’s expertise should come into play. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:05:32 +0100)
@living_as_if RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @kirstyes It was the BMA, they recently unanimously voted to have WCA immediately stopped #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:05:45 +0100)
@claireOT RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @kirstyes It was the BMA, they recently unanimously voted to have WCA immediately stopped #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:06:06 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl thanks- memory block there! #OTalk @kirstyes (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:06:27 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @bigpawedbear Health and Care Professions Council (HCPC) (don’t forget recent name change;0)) #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:06:30 +0100)
@claireOT RT @kirstyes : @claireOT @bigpawedbear Health and Care Professions Council (HCPC) (don’t forget recent name change;0)) #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:07:10 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @gilliancrossley Very interesting, something I knew nothing about yet affects so many #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:07:38 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes @BigPawedBear oops #cantevenrememberthenameofmyregulator #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:07:42 +0100)
@kirstyes @amy_blue82 @gilliancrossley @bendygirl very probably. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:07:57 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl @gilliancrossley I do have an idealistic heart. Hoping one day people will listen to heart as well as head! #OTalk need combined(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:08:40 +0100)
@claireOT Thank to everyone who has participated in tonight’s #OTalk . We’ll be grabbing the archive tomorrow, feel free to continue chatting!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:08:44 +0100)
@BendyGirl I’m afraid that’s me done for tonight’s #OTalk spoons have run out. Been v interesting & clearly much further discussion needed(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:08:47 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @bigpawedbear only changed at beginning of Aug and our reg cards still have old name so you’re ok. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:09:26 +0100)
@claireOT May I extend special thanks to @BendyGirl for being able to help us OTs understand about the change from #DLA to #PIP . Thank you #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:09:34 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @BigPawedBear Thanks I will have a good look at this! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:09:41 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @claireOT @bigpawedbear just curious- are there any OT’s in it? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:09:43 +0100)
@EastbourneCAB RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:10:00 +0100)
@amy_blue82 started to watch #OTalk out of curiousity, ended joining in , very interesting discussion(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:10:06 +0100)
@kirstyes We are going with another #OTalk next week rather than #occhat . Another one on Professionalism and addressing concerns c others. Pertinent?(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:10:35 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl thanks for letting us use so many spoons. I think we’ve established that we all need to learn much more about #PIP #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:10:59 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @claireot @bigpawedbear OTs in what Bill? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:11:14 +0100)
@claireOT RT @kirstyes : We are going with another #OTalk next week rather than #occhat . Another one on Professionalism and addressing concerns c o …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:11:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley RT @kirstyes : We are going with another #OTalk next week rather than #occhat . Another one on Professionalism and addressing concerns c o …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:11:49 +0100)
@MatthewDoye It’s been great to here from HCPs #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:11:51 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes interesting given the theme about if practice in Ax for #PIP would be in line with #professionalism values, huh? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:12:05 +0100)
@BendyGirl @claireOT It’s been really worthwhile..perhaps we need a series of #OTalk ‘s looking at different aspects & explaining more welfare generally(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:12:19 +0100)
@claireOT @amy_blue82 thanks so much for joining us- I do hope you’ll come back again another time! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:12:39 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @claireOT @BigPawedBear Health and Care Professions Council I meant. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:12:47 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye thanks so much for joining in with the chat- please do come back again soon! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:13:14 +0100)
@kirstyes @BigPawedBear @claireot @billwongot was asking Bill the question rather than referring to a bill ;0) easy to get confused #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:13:20 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT Exunctly! where my brain went. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:13:41 +0100)
@claireOT @BendyGirl I think it would be so worthwhile. There have been so many changes it’s hard for practitioners to keep up with it #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:13:54 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl @gilliancrossley Thanks. I took it that way ;0) #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:14:02 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @BigPawedBear @claireOT Yes… lol! That can be really confusing! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:14:20 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth RT @kirstyes : We are going with another #OTalk next week rather than #occhat . Another one on Professionalism and addressing concerns c o …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:14:41 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @claireot @bigpawedbear HCPC is our regulating body. Yes would be OTs as well as all other professions represented. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:14:41 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @claireOT @BendyGirl I think that would be good too! #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:14:59 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye @bobcollinsOT absolutely- and we OTs ae more comfortable with social model than most HCP, but we must still .. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:15:21 +0100)
@kirstyes @BendyGirl Thanks. Been a good one. Think I need to collect some spoons too. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:15:25 +0100)
@Worutd RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:15:31 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye @bobcollinsOT … account for effects of impairment too, and the hijacking of the term “biopsychosocial model” be people #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:16:03 +0100)
@MelissaUnsworth @gilliancrossley thanks for the invite Gill to your #OTalk very informative as ever(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:16:14 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye @bobcollinsOT …who don’t mean what we OTs mean by it, oh, its all very complicated! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:16:28 +0100)
@kirstyes @BigPawedBear @gilliancrossley straight away interested to see postcode lottery!! North/south divide. What happening in Scot/Wales? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:16:45 +0100)
@bev5lea RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:17:06 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes @BendyGirl been a great chat! thanks for great hosting! I feel much more knowledgeable on this now #otalk #knowledgeIsPower !(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:17:08 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @claireOT @BigPawedBear Then the next question is the OT’s there work closely with #COT on issues like this, right? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:17:10 +0100)
@kirstyes @amy_blue82 great to have your input. Thanks. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:17:16 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @claireOT @BigPawedBear I am saying that because in US, #AOTA has its own lobbyist, albeit the number is far less than PT. #Otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:17:40 +0100)
@kirstyes Thanks @claireOT and all for thought provoking #OTalk . Lots to ponder.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:18:36 +0100)
@claireOT @MelissaUnsworth @gilliancrossley so glad yu enjoyed the chat- do come back again anytime, we are a very broad church at #OTalk !(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:18:50 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT @claireot @bigpawedbear To be honest I’m not 100% sure. Hopefully. Perhaps @BAOTCOT can comment. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:20:15 +0100)
@kirstyes Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:21:16 +0100)
@nanayasleeps RT @MasonDAutistic : I’ll lose DLA next year and won’t be eligible for PIP because I can use a microwave #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:26:37 +0100)
@claireOT @MatthewDoye that’s one of the great things about Twitter, isn’t it? hopefully breaks down some barriers #OTalk @kirstyes (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:26:46 +0100)
@claireOT RT @kirstyes : Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:02 +0100)
@claireOT @kirstyes and of course, anyone who receives services from HCPs, what does professionalism mean to them during treatment? #OTalk Tues 8pm(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:27:55 +0100)
@claireOT Here is a news report about the BMA calling for the ESA WCA Assessment to be scrapped, for #OTalk #PIP chatters http://t.co/CBZqlmre (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:29:34 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT no problem- we’re probably more able to chat now the #OTalk stream is a bit quieter!(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:30:22 +0100)
@CharOReilly sad to have missed #otalk tonight, apologies #otworld , I have been settling into placement destination.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:30:44 +0100)
@BernaMeaden RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:28 +0100)
@claireOT @bobcollinsOT it’s a far more interesting question- as OTs, what are we doing to enable people in receipt of DLA as occ. beings #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:37:46 +0100)
@claireOT @CharOReilly you are welcome to read through the stream and add thoughts- we will collate the Tweets tomorrow! #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:39:38 +0100)
@WeNurses RT @kirstyes : Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:39:39 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @matthewdoye We like talking to everyone and being open and honest about our practice ;0) #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:39:59 +0100)
@claireOT @CharOReilly don’t miss next week’s chat about professionalism #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:40:00 +0100)
@AgencyNurse RT @wenurses : RT @kirstyes : Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:41:37 +0100)
@tymawr50 RT @kirstyes : Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:43:52 +0100)
@CNMHP RT @kirstyes : Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:45:31 +0100)
@evilgiraffe20 RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:51:11 +0100)
@bobcollinsOT @claireOT really good to #Otalk . plenty to go and reflect on and promote our profession. look forward to more next time.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:53:48 +0100)
@BlackVanDyke @BendyGirl not just cost but meeting dietary and cultural needs is a big concern. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:55:39 +0100)
@kirstyes @claireOT @tigrez @bendygirl @bobcollinsot yes the whole PIP change seems to be pinned on that sadly. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:57:53 +0100)
@bobcollinsOT @claireOT #Otalk #VeryInspiring . Thanks all. x(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:58:39 +0100)
@tigrez @BendyGirl it’s already part of the culture. There’s even companies such as Wiltshire farmfoods built around delivering ready meals. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:59:26 +0100)
@tigrez RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:07:21 +0100)
@tigrez @meandme10 @claireot poverty, not eating, ending up in hospital, or morgue. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:09:52 +0100)
@tigrez @claireOT I already see patients with repeated admissions as not able/willing to pay towards the care they need. This will worsen. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:12:56 +0100)
@kirstyes @WeNurses @claireot @baotcot @helen_otuk #OTalk again.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:18:26 +0100)
@falcos2012 RT @clissa89 : #OTuesday Special #OTalk tonight – we are joining w/ #nurchat to discuss Disability Living Allowance migration to PIP @ben …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:26:42 +0100)
@clissa89 @claireOT @agencynurse @BendyGirl sorry I couldnt make it, was loading the van up #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:27:51 +0100)
@RiseandRecline RT @kirstyes : Actively encouraging all HCPs to come chat about Professionalism again next Tuesday 8pm UK time. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:33:45 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @kirstyes : We are going with another #OTalk next week rather than #occhat . Another one on Professionalism and addressing concerns c o …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:34:27 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @gilliancrossley : @bobcollinsOT @claireOT physical too not just MH. Often MH can be worsened by the stress of working. #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:35:23 +0100)
@AbleNotDisabled RT @claireOT : The Government are changing the #DLA benefit to #PIP because they say they want to reduce claimant count by 20%. #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:56:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @BendyGirl : Everyone is welcome to #OTalk on Personal Independence Payment, we’d love to see GP’s views too #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:07:26 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Look forward to it ” @claireOT : We’ll put transcript from the chat and any useful #OTalk links go up on the http://t.co/NbDNTw97 blog soon”.(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:09:48 +0100)
@CatherinBrunton RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @cathbore a current HCP advised me they thought they could rule Hawking ineligible for #PIP if they tried to #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:13:45 +0100)
@dinogoldie RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @cathbore a current HCP advised me they thought they could rule Hawking ineligible for #PIP if they tried to #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:16:18 +0100)
@serfofbritain RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @cathbore a current HCP advised me they thought they could rule Hawking ineligible for #PIP if they tried to #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:31:02 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @claireOT : Here is a news report about the BMA calling for the ESA WCA Assessment to be scrapped, for #OTalk #PIP chatters http://t.c …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:42:13 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @Helen_otuk : Look forward to it ” @claireOT : We’ll put transcript from the chat and any useful #OTalk links go up on the http://t.co/N …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:42:33 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @kirstyes : We are going with another #OTalk next week rather than #occhat . Another one on Professionalism and addressing concerns c o …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:42:36 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @BigPawedBear : just to reiterate, we are talking about latest draft criteria of jan 2012, new regs etc due out in autumn #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:42:52 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @BigPawedBear : so the govt say will treat as indeviduals,but then say, no assessment of indevidual dis expencis? #otalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:43:00 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @kirstyes : Why is prompting not scored the same as assistance. Will still need someone there even if physically able? #OTalk who desi …(Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:43:11 +0100)
@swiftremedies RT @MatthewDoye : For those like me whose condition leaves them agoraphobic DLA can pay for someone to take us out, many will loseout #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:43:26 +0100)
@THemingford RT @BendyGirl : Microwave meals recurring theme. Do #OT ‘s think a diet of constant microwave food will enable disabled or sick people? #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:46:44 +0100)
@FordCarole RT @BendyGirl : @claireOT @kirstyes It was the BMA, they recently unanimously voted to have WCA immediately stopped #OTalk (Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:50:46 +0100)
@Hossylass @BillWongOT Try serco and the college of OT’s who are one and the same when lobbying gvmnt. #otalk (Wed, 19 Sep 2012 00:02:35 +0100)
@stairliftscheme RT @Helen_otuk : Look forward to it ” @claireOT : We’ll put transcript from the chat and any useful #OTalk links go up on the http://t.co/N …(Wed, 19 Sep 2012 07:26:14 +0100)
@WiLLcAmP19 I swear on the show #OTalk (Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:45:18 +0100)
@kirstyes @BAOTCOT I’ll e-mail using the #OTalk address. Thanks.(Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:13:18 +0100)
@Helen_otuk 25/09/12 8pm (UK) #OTalk focus on Professionalism – ‘Keep Talking’ – What happens when standards slip?
@KarenCHPO (Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:29:58 +0100)
@LeonoraOT @Keeper85 @trinaot @mmolineux Thanks #OTPeeps #ANZOT #PacificOT #occhat #otalk & @bronwynah for such great tips!(Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:36:51 +0100)
@claireOT @gilliancrossley @OT_Expert is planning on a OT party before breakfast tomorrow- if any #OTalk and #Occhat people want to join in!(Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:33:06 +0100)
@OT_Expert @clissa89 @claireot @gilliancrossley Wow, I’d better get my best crockery out if there’s going to be a crowd of us! #otalk #occhat (Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:42:47 +0100)

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