Salutogenesis – Grabchat

Please find attached the Salutogenesis Transcript from Healthcare Hashtags and below the ‘grabchat’. Summary to follow in a separate post.

Involved …

@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @allisulli @BillWongOT @cgenter @kirsi_hyvarinen @Lisa_D_OT @LeonoraOT @OTalk_Occhat @beingyourdoing @Th00ha @Trio33 @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley @pphealthcare @clissa89 @bobcollinsOT @Stalkerbird @BAOTCOT @uscosot @charl885

Top resources …

http://t.co/q2weD6qJ Slideshare Presentation – useful summary
http://t.co/dm60wH26 Salutogenesis definition (Health in the River of Life website)
http://t.co/uSNiXuDn JOS article that refers to Salutogenesis
http://t.co/8HxaGlsA Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 items
http://t.co/kR4MyyoX Health in the River of Life article list
http://t.co/u938Gwgg Facebook Page event listing
http://t.co/nruoTGob Wikipedia summary
http://t.co/DX9LwLwT Sense of Coherence Questionnaire 13 item
http://t.co/2V22S3SS Abstract of research ‘Optimism, self-efficacy and meaningfulness : towards a aalutogenic model of occupational wellbeing’

Related tags …

#otuesday #otalk #health #ot #cheersyouwonderfulots

See Twitter for more tweets, people, videos and photos for #occhat

@BAOTCOT #Occhat at 8pm discusses Salutogenesis, an approach focusing on factors that support health & well-being http://t.co/u938Gwgg #OTuesday (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:34:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @BAOTCOT : #Occhat at 8pm discusses Salutogenesis, an approach focusing on factors that support health & well-being http://t.co/u938Gwgg #OTuesday (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:42:01 +0100)
@gilliancrossley #occhat sorry I can’t join in tonights chat : (… I look forward to reading through the tweets..(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:13:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT Really wished I could’ve participated this wk’s #occhat live. Have read so much from autism support groups. Grr!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:28:28 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – just getting some resources ready for tonight.
http://t.co/nruoTGob
Basic Wikipedia Overview(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:45:05 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:45:26 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat http://t.co/dm60wH26
Website called Health in the river of life – KAWA links anyone??(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:45:57 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat Persson et al (1999) Journal of Occupational Science Article – http://t.co/uSNiXuDn (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:46:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @kirstyes : #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:47:23 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @kirstyes : #occhat Persson et al (1999) Journal of Occupational Science Article – http://t.co/uSNiXuDn (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:47:37 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat – just getting some resources ready for tonight.
http://t.co/nruoTGob
Basic Wikipedia Overview(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:14 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:17 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat http://t.co/dm60wH26
Website called Health in the river of life – KAWA links anyone??(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:21 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat Persson et al (1999) Journal of Occupational Science Article – http://t.co/uSNiXuDn (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:23 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – (From Perrson et al) – salutogenesis is a new perspective which
seeks the origins of health. Health is a continuum.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:54:15 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat Sense of Coherence Questionnaire – 13 point – http://t.co/DX9LwLwT (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:00:07 +0100)
@cgenter On the ball there @kirstyes with the resources. its only a recent idea for me but seems v relevant to OS #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:00:13 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 points – http://t.co/8HxaGlsA (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:13 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Good evening all #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:14 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat Sense of Coherence Questionnaire – 13 point – http://t.co/DX9LwLwT (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:38 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat – Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 points – http://t.co/8HxaGlsA (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:41 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Hi everyone, just having a read through some of the resources . . . #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:02:27 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 We’ll be talking about this for the next hour using #occhat (Occupational Science focused tweet chat). Please do join us.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:02:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk My @kirstyes you have been busy… #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:24 +0100)
@kirstyes Hi all at #occhat just wondering if people want to take a couple of minutes to have a look at the slideshare shared earlier?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:27 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen Good evening to all #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:40 +0100)
@Stalkerbird #occhat Hi all.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:57 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:04:10 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes thanks for the slide show on salutogenesis. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:04:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk only just though. Barely had chance to look myself. Sorry. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:06:00 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen It did’nt work out w/ iPad, I couldn’t opened it. Any ideas where’s the problem? @kirstyes #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:06:56 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : #occhat – Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 points – http://t.co/8HxaGlsA (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:07:38 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen it opens on my iPad. #occhat took some time to load earlier. Maybe try opening in Safari.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:08:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk This is a ‘new’ concept well the word and this theory presented in this way… But I am loving it! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:08:56 +0100)
@allisulli #occhat Salutogenesis: discovering the causes of #health http://t.co/RXpBXV0d via @slideshare #Otuesday thanks to @kirstyes (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:09:01 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Why have I not come across this before??? I am thinking now! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:09:19 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Slide show is really interesting – we need to look for the causes of health, not focus on disease #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:09:43 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I have only looked briefly at some stuff to get a feel ready for this evening chat. But will definitely be exploring this further. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:10:40 +0100)
@kirstyes First thoughts? Very much links into public health agenda and like the idea of ‘causing health’. shows why ‘recovery’ more popular #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:10:49 +0100)
@allisulli Considering the causes of #health during #occhat today http://t.co/zwrSgFVP (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:11 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Similar to some of the stuff I’ve come across when looking at health promotion, e.g. upstream thinking #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I think this is what we as OT’s do look at… but I have never framed it in the way that salutogenesis does. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:36 +0100)
@cgenter wonder why its not popular or more well known in OT and OS? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:52 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat Love that of Comprehensibility, Manageability and Meaningfulness the latter is the most important for a Sense of Coherence.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:12:23 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @cgenter I am thinking this too… why have I not come across this before??? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:12:38 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @cgenter wonder why its not popular or more well known in OT and OS? – good question! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:06 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @kirstyes I don’t know where’s the problem, it didn’t work out w/ Safari either. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:35 +0100)
@kirstyes Huge thanks to @cgenter for bringing this word etc to our attention. #occhat Something all OS (and OTs) should be aware of.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:37 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : I think this is what we as OT’s do look at… but I have never framed it in the way that salutogenesis does. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:39 +0100)
@allisulli RT @cgenter : wonder why its not popular or more well known in OT and OS? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:46 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree RT @kirstyes : Love that of Comprehensibility, Manageability and Meaningfulness the latter is the most important for a S of C. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:14:05 +0100)
@cgenter @Lisa_D_OT Antonovsky did an article. Linking salutogenesis to HP #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:14:46 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen :0( hopefully you’ll pick up on main points from chat.Have a look at Wikipedia page instead (seems fairly accurate). #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:15:04 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I have definitely searched for resources on meaningfulness this has never turned up in my explorations so far… why? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:15:46 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen I heard it first time now. I don’t even know is it traslated into Finnish @cgenter #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:00 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @kirstyes : Huge thanks to @cgenter for bringing this word etc to our attention. Something all OS (and OTs) should be aware of. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:32 +0100)
@cgenter Comes from med soc. Think the scale has caused it to be unpopular, or that has been suggested to me #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:33 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirsi_hyvarinen : I heard it first time now. I don’t even know is it traslated into Finnish @cgenter #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:58 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @kirstyes Thanks anyway. I quickly read te Wikipedia page of it. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:17:16 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @cgenter really? do you have a reference for that? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:17:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter According to Google translate it’s the same word (no idea how accurate that is though). #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:18:09 +0100)
@kirstyes @cgenter What do you mean by the scale caused it to be unpopular? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:19:35 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Seems to fit well with OT philosophy – taking into account how effects of environment &what people do causes health #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:19:35 +0100)
@kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT Agree – looking at the questionnaire the manageability aspects would definitely be affected by the environmental context #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:20:34 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Was just looking for that…
RT @kirstyes : @cgenter What do you mean by the scale caused it to be unpopular? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:20:50 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes a discussion I had with supervisor who suggested it was moving away from original intention of model #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:21:16 +0100)
@kirstyes Also links to the idea of health literacy that @BillWongOT talks about. Something that def needs to be addressed in schools. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:21:24 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes think it fell out of fashion after he died too #occhat salutogenesis is Latin so same in all languages means origins of health(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:22:39 +0100)
@allisulli @cgenter @kirstyes is that due to concern that it would be unwieldly in regards to intervention, ala MOHO? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:24:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Well maybe we need to bring it back? More exploration required MT @cgenter : @kirstyes think it fell out of fashion after he died too #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:24:40 +0100)
@cgenter @Helen_otuk definitely, was exploring idea of doing abstract for next years conference #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:25:46 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree, on initial look the questionnaire does look tricky (only had quick look), but I like the continuum theory. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:26:08 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @cgenter Good question – I’m still confused about unpopularity – problems with application could cause that maybe? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:26:11 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Great idea! RT @cgenter : definitely, was exploring idea of doing abstract for next years conference #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:26:44 +0100)
@kirstyes But surely there is just as much work needed with pathogenesis – so many causes of disease – also many causes of health?? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:27:03 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes definitely agree re health literacy, need to empower people so they can make informed choices #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:04 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @BillWongOT needs to be addressed in mental health re lack of patient access. Most services still delivered inpatient only #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:09 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @cgenter Yup sounds great. Think we should raise in curriculum too maybe #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:10 +0100)
@cgenter @ @kirstyes @allisulli #occhat this is just the opinion of someone i have discussed it with, but there must be a reason it is not well known(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:14 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Could it be linked to ‘treatment’ theories? If we can frame the disease we can ‘cure’ it? Funding… drug companies etc
#occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:30 +0100)
@kirstyes Also see looking at questionnaires a number of different ways conditions can impact on the sense of coherence. Why meaning essential #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:29:36 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes @Helen_otuk #occhat I only have a superficial understanding of it, I need to look at it more, but articles seems hard to track(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:29:40 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen I did some google searches abt topic in Finnish. I can’t stop to think abt connection to psychology. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:30:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @cgenter Agree there must be a reason… more exploration required, it seems very ‘OT / OS’ so why not more widely known? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:30:51 +0100)
@cgenter @Helen_otuk #occhat that would make sense to me, but I think it promises alot potentially, a whole new way of considering health care(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:02 +0100)
@kirstyes What did you guys think about the website ‘Health in the river of life’? Very kawa esque. Anybody know if kawa book mentions Salut… #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:16 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes talked to cancer researcher last nite: quitting her job. frustrated that all research $$ pathogenic #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:49 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Reason it is not more widely known? Many of the refs seem very dated too? MT @cgenter : but articles seems hard to track #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:32:10 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes #occhat does sound like kawa, will check when i get home (still on train from @plymuni )!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:32:25 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk But more than ‘cure’ and disease based – more about the manageability and comprehendability aspects of living with #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:32:33 +0100)
@cgenter @Helen_otuk #occhat Yes i think since antonovsky died it has been neglected, my cynical side says there must be a reason(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:33:39 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree! RT @cgenter : Yes i think since antonovsky died it has been neglected, my cynical side says there must be a reason #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:34:33 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – Does anyone else think that Faith/spirituality may have a big impact here in terms of comprehensibility?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:35:16 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk @cgenter One probl’em w current evidence-based emphasis: throwing out the research baby w the bathwater:) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:35:34 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter I found phD study in psychiatry where this theory has been used as a frame of reference @helen_otuk #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:36:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Is that because people are still concerned with “simply” (knowing not simple) living rather than living (or dying well) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:36:49 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter @helen_otuk Can you share the link? #occhat (afterwards if easier) thanks.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:37:23 +0100)
@Helen_otuk The Folkh�lsan Research Centre have a lot of publications more recently. http://t.co/kR4MyyoX #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:38:09 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes definitely think there’s a link to spirituality – how you understand &make sense of life events, your beliefs &values #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:02 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes tx (chemo) is #cure focused. pts not offered diet counseling, therapeutic support for beginning an #exercise program, etc. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:24 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : The Folkh�lsan Research Centre have a lot of publications more recently. http://t.co/kR4MyyoX #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Oh there is a database! Getting excited now… need to calm down! Databases do please me. How sad. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:40:35 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen Only problem is that it’s written in Finnish but there’s English abstract: http://t.co/Gfqr3pq6 @kirstyes @cgenter @helen_otuk #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:40:39 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : Oh there is a database! Getting excited now… need to calm down! Databases do please me. How sad. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:41:24 +0100)
@bobcollinsOT #occhat following salut…conversation. Strong links to solution focus and strength based ways of mental health work(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:41:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter @helen_otuk Thanks #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:25 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @allisulli Seems like health’care is actually ‘disease’care? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:50 +0100)
@kirstyes @bobcollinsOT Definitely agree with this – but have you heard of this concept specifically before? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:59 +0100)
@allisulli @bobcollinsOT problem is USA is that #mh care is delivered mostly in in-patient treatment settings. Not salutogenic at all! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:43:40 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – would be interested if people could talk in their circles about this concept – see if anyone familiar with #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:43:50 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Lisa_D_OT : @allisulli Seems like health’care is actually ‘disease’care? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:43:56 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Lisa_D_OT : @kirstyes definitely agree re health literacy, need to empower people so they can make informed choices #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:44:22 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Oh look a book: ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Salutogenesis. Salutogenic pathways to health promotion.’ Love the title! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:44:34 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @Lisa_D_OT : @allisulli Seems like health’care is actually ‘disease’care? #occhat ? great point. But I think it & OT showing a shift.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:14 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT unfortunately, not even. Disease-treatment. Dis-ease management. Who cares? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:20 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : Oh look a book: ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Salutogenesis. Salutogenic pathways to health promotion.’ Love the title! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:34 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 We’re going now. 8-9 uk time. Follow #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:47 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk I know what I am going to be reading on my flight to San Diego next week:) I bet I will feel much better when done #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:46:23 +0100)
@kirstyes @DebbiiHarrison great point. This keeps coming up. Political awareness needed. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:46:36 +0100)
@kirstyes RT ? @allisulli : I am also wondering if a prevention/promotion of health can truly most effectively address #crisis in the moment?? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:47:35 +0100)
@cgenter @kirsi_hyvarinen @helen_otuk #occhat is that the steyn optimism one from 2011?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:48:16 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Very possibly not. Both aspects needed. But health promotion as prevention and necessary post interventions. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:48:25 +0100)
@kirstyes @bobcollinsOT We get very excited don’t we when something ‘outside’ speaks to what we do. #occhat ;0)(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:49:13 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes now for economics. Who benefits from fewer consumers of medical care? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:50:30 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 how would you say this fits with what you do? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:50:47 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen In Finland problem is that it’s difficult to get money for health promotion ’cause disease care costs so much @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:50:56 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter no, it was from Finland 2005. Tweeted the link before @helen_otuk #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:52:52 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat hi all. Apols for late check-in. Salutogenesis – love it!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:53:00 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Interesting point. But I do think there is a gradual recognition that a wider perspective needed #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:04 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat I have anxiety depression and alcoholism. By spending berry little time thinking about these problems, I don’t have them.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:28 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing Good evening Keith, is this something you are very familiar with? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @beingyourdoing Welcome on board. Look forward to hearing your views. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:39 +0100)
@allisulli @kirsi_hyvarinen @Lisa_D_OT maybe the key to shift is to focus on grant monies for prevention and promotion at the school-age level #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:55:00 +0100)
@Trio33 #occhat Salutogenesis great word and what little I’ve read sounds REALLY interesting(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:55:34 +0100)
@kirstyes So with 5 minutes to go. What ‘new’ information has this provided to OS (and/or the practice of OT)? Will this change anything? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:55:55 +0100)
@Helen_otuk We all seem to agree… RT @Trio33 : #occhat Salutogenesis great word and what little Ive read sounds REALLY interesting #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:17 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes @bobcollinsOT #occhat have seen it mentioned in relation to asset based health approach http://t.co/rz77tobM (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:24 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 Hi. I’ve just realised reading your post that Salut is said as a toast ‘to your health’ (Doh can’t believe how behind I am) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:57:13 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @allisulli : @kirsi_hyvarinen maybe the key to shift is to focus on grant monies for prevention &promotion at the school-age level #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:57:21 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes Gradual is better than none and I agree @DeanOrnishMD . Look at Lifestyle Redesign. Well aging. @uscosot . #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:57:52 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes not sure it is ‘new’ information, but a way of framing the idea. This always help to ‘get the idea’ across. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:58:29 +0100)
@beingyourdoing Recovery model I follow encourages me to stop living in the problem and start living in the solution. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:58:41 +0100)
@cgenter @kirsi_hyvarinen @helen_otuk #occhat right, this is the one i meant http://t.co/2V22S3SS (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:59:33 +0100)
@Trio33 #occhat is this chat every Tues 8pm??(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:59:40 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Would you be around in a fortnight to host (with support) the “ccupational artistry as antidote to occupational science” #occhat ?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:00:04 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @cgenter thanks… #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:00:51 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes salutogenesis gives a slightly different perspective on health, but one that fits with how we promote health as OTs 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:00:56 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 If you can get hold of the Journal of Occupational Science article mentioned further back mentions flow and Salutogenesis #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:01:01 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter Thanks. #occhat @helen_otuk (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:02:04 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing yes seems to fit well with the salutogenic approach #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:02:16 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes honor and a pleasure to co-host! Justifies my undergraduate fine arts degree and ego needs:) Highly salutogenic, indeed:) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:02:25 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen Thanks to all. #occhat I’ve to go to sleep now…(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:04:36 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes have you got all the reference materials from this evening? I have many tabs open… do you want me to capture them too? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:04:47 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirsi_hyvarinen sleep well, good to have you with us. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:05:16 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes interesting to do a side by side comparision of MOHO, EOHP, and Salutogenesis. #occhat As long as its not me doing it:)(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:05:49 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @Helen_otuk It was very nice to join #occhat for long time. Take care!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:06:22 +0100)
@kirstyes Lst thoughts?
Nxt wk #OTalk follows on from the blogging one further exploring concept of privacy.
Nxt #occhat ‘occ artistry antidote to OS(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:07:17 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @Helen_otuk Thanks for your links and contrbution #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:07:33 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Thanks all for a great #occhat , see you next time 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:08:01 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @Lisa_D_OT EOHP? Mind blank #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:08:02 +0100)
@Trio33 My first #occhat very interesting – thnks all!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:09:12 +0100)
@kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT Thanks Lisa – fab tweets from you tonight. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:09:18 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes thinking about embedding discussion in Royeen’s 2003 Slagle lecture on chaos theory. #Chaos as the #art of occupation #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:10:13 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 Thank you so much for joining us. Any questions you have please don’t hesitate to ask. #occhat . You may be interested in @OSEurope 2(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0100)
@Helen_otuk As usual… GREAT chat, thanks all esp. @cgenter for suggesting this and @kirstyes for all the reference materials. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:10:44 +0100)
@Th00ha @cgenter @Helen_otuk just joining in. Is this model related to just mental health though? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:11:09 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @cgenter And thanks to Helen for getting excited about databases and Hitchiker books. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:12:35 +0100)
@Th00ha @kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT that actually helps this model make more sense, thanks. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:12:49 +0100)
@kirstyes @Th00ha @cgenter @Helen_otuk No definitely not just MH – this is considering origins of health in general #occhat bt often resides in coping(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:13:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Th00ha seems to be often related to public health and health promotion. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:22 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : @Helen_otuk @cgenter And thanks to Helen for getting excited about databases and Hitchiker books. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:51 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes lol… two of my favourite things! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:55 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : As usual… GREAT chat, thanks all esp. @cgenter for suggesting this and @kirstyes for all the reference materials. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:59 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @bobcollinsOT : @Helen_otuk @kirstyes Yeah. agreed, nothing new but provides a nice academic framework? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:19:50 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @allisulli : @kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT Ecology of Human Peformance:)? #occhat Another new one to look up. I learn so much (too much ;0)) on these(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:21:51 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes Surrealism as Our Art: Occupational therapists see the surreal in order to help people get real. Royeen, 2003. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:22:45 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @kirstyes : ? @allisulli : Ecology of Human Peformance:)? Another new one to look up. I learn so much (too much ;0)) on these #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:25:48 +0100)
@uscosot RT @allisulli : @kirstyes Gradual is better than none and I agree @DeanOrnishMD . Look at Lifestyle Redesign. Well aging. @uscosot . #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:27:30 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT EHOP Winnie Dunn, Brown, & McGuigan, 1994. Christiansen and Baum 1997;. Univ of Kansas #OT dept theory basis #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:28:16 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat important factor for Salutogenesis seems to be attitude. Not what happens (or what conditions we have) but attitude to it.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:32:33 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:36:09 +0100)
@charl885 @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes @allisulli ecology of human performance is by far my favourite model #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:47:11 +0100)
@pphealthcare RT @Lisa_D_OT : Thanks all for a great #occhat , see you next time 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:15:47 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter same here. When I read that term, I was like, huh? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:19:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter I don’t know about Chinese either. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:19:49 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes from a consumer POV, health literacy really helped me in managing myself. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:20:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @cgenter what is not widely known exactly? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:21:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes and I also think it ties into loci of control. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:22:20 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @allisulli : @Lisa_D_OT unfortunately, not even. Disease-treatment. Dis-ease management. Who cares? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:22:52 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha @cgenter @helen_otuk don’t think so. It can be phys dys, too. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:24:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:24:29 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @otalk_occhat LOVE IT!!! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:24:55 +0100)
@BillWongOT @charl885 @lisa_d_ot @kirstyes @allisulli my favorite is the MOHO. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:25:39 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @kirstyes LRD is sort of like outpatient. If it’s inpatient, I won’t be doing placements at this moment… Lol! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:27:55 +0100)
@BillWongOT Just to note, I think today’s topic applies to caregivers and consumers. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:18:40 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:29:35 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life and I believe we need to teach our clients that. Read too many depressive posts by people w/ Aspergers. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:38:22 +0100)
@BillWongOT One thing we OT’s need to educate clients- they can’t put complete blame on their injuries and/or diagnoses if they are depressed. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:42:37 +0100)
@Th00ha @BillWongOT yeah agreed, because they are a huge part of the environment tht will shape their recovery focus. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:45:04 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life also mental health. Some people with AS like me have great mental health, but some have very poor mental health. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:45:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha and this also includes the community. I benefitted from the support of OT community in my recovery experience. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:46:47 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life #occhat Very much enjoyed catching up! Sorry I missed it. Netball called. #cheersyouwonderfulOTs #attemptingtocharmoccchat 🙂 #itsmynature (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:47:37 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life you still can. That is what I have been doing for the past hour. They don’t grab chat until >= 24 hours now. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:49:19 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @Th00ha : @BillWongOT yeah agreed, because they are a huge part of the environment tht will shape their recovery focus. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:50:14 +0100)
@Th00ha @BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life oh good to know. I hv to wake up at 5am to join coz I’m in Sydney! #occhat (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:08:58 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha @symbolic_life I am doing it for the past hour because I missed the live chat, as I have placement. #occhat (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:10:10 +0100)
@allisulli @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence, promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!”(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 04:02:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Helen_otuk @kirstyes #OCCHAT looks interesting! I agree that not necessarily new idea, I like the framing! sorry missed it!(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 09:55:12 +0100)
@Trio33 Following #occhat last night my word of the week is salutogenesis(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 17:21:26 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Trio33 : Following #occhat last night my word of the week is salutogenesis(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:33:31 +0100)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life Thanks for the #occhat charm.(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:34:09 +0100)
@clissa89 Sad to have missed #occhat yesterday, was at work. Must get my head around this ‘salutogenesis’. #OTuesday (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:57:00 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:11:15 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @Helen_otuk : The Folkh�lsan Research Centre have a lot of publications more recently. http://t.co/kR4MyyoX #occhat (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:13:07 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @kirstyes : #occhat http://t.co/dm60wH26
Website called Health in the river of life – KAWA links anyone??(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:13:48 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @BAOTCOT : #Occhat at 8pm discusses Salutogenesis, an approach focusing on factors that support health & well-being http://t.co/u938Gwgg #OTuesday (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:14:00 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @Helen_otuk : @JoaoXConsLeite every tuesday 8pm(UK) either #OTalk or #Occhat . Blog http://t.co/1DDb4sFl and on FB https://t.co/PFk9KEWB Do join us.(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:14:20 +0100)
@LeonoraOT Me too RT? @clissa89 : Sad to have missed #occhat yesterday, was at work. Must get my head around this ‘salutogenesis’. #OTuesday ?(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:16:31 +0100)

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