#OTalk The Role of OT in Public Health 24 July 2012

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@Muma__Bear RT @BAOTCOT : #OTalk @ 8pm discusses Public Health http://t.co/soDExrir which was a key topic at #cot2012 , a refresher here http://t.co/HHCV8crE #OTuesday (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:28:03 +0100)
@allisulli @gilliancrossley I see #OT in public health as being vitally important. It is an essential conceptual model for my practice #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:57:03 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @allisulli In what context are OTs working in public health in the US? #OTALK (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:59:12 +0100)
@gilliancrossley Anyone online for #otalk ? I’m a last minute host @helenOTuk sends apologies and will hopefully be able to join before the end of the talk.(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:00:31 +0100)
@allisulli @gilliancrossley I work for a community-based day program for adults w developmental disabilities. OT req.for reimbursement in MA. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:03:38 +0100)
@kirstyes Evening all #OTalk thanks for stepping in @gilliancrossley (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:04:24 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley I actually work in private practice, but OTs in the public health is important for health promotion. #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:05:18 +0100)
@kirstyes Personally I just think it’s about time public health was viewed as more than diet and exercise. #OTalk yes they’re important but not all(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:06:12 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Th00ha #otalk are there and key public health issues that OT can help with?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:06:49 +0100)
@gilliancrossley #otalk are there common public health issues globally? that OTs can , are or should/ could be helping with? and how?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:08:03 +0100)
@kirstyes @gilliancrossley mental health and wellbeing. #OTalk work-life balance (she says whistling). Managing transitions.(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:09:54 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley community and outreach, particularly in mental health areas I think. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:10:14 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes the fact that there seems so little enthusiasm for this topic today, is an indication of the significance of problem, IMHO #Otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:12:30 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes #otalk lifestyle diseases? crime? vocational? self esteem? anxiety? welfare state issues? being a productive member of society!(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:13:26 +0100)
@Th00ha @kirstyes @gilliancrossley yes, usually due to limited resources/staffing, public health can provide only so much. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:13:46 +0100)
@Th00ha RT @gilliancrossley : @kirstyes #otalk lifestyle diseases? crime? vocational? self esteem? anxiety? welfare state issues? being a productive member of society!(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:15:42 +0100)
@gilliancrossley #OTalk how can we do more to promote how OT can play a role in public health issues?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:15:54 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @gilliancrossley #resilience within the context of occupational #justice is key to effective public health. #otalk #OTuesday (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:17:26 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Enthuiasm has been hit and miss for few weeks plus we have got sun for the first time in forever ;0) #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:17:56 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @gilliancrossley : @kirstyes #otalk lifestyle diseases? crime? vocational? self esteem? anxiety? welfare state issues? being a productive member of society!(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:18:02 +0100)
@kirstyes @gilliancrossley all good ideas #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:18:21 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life #OTalk Where in public health is it expressing life balance?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:19:17 +0100)
@kirstyes @gilliancrossley Speak to local MP.I was going to do this but after hearing a friend having a response on a visible issue not so sure #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:20:10 +0100)
@allisulli #OT #publichealth #otalk http://t.co/6FujnIwm (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:20:54 +0100)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life I’m not entirely sure how much it is there. #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:21:09 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley oh this is something OT Australia is planning to do for #OTWeek this year. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:22:09 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life #otalk I think this is difficult because society has a view of work life balance not necessarily fitting with the individual(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:22:14 +0100)
@kirstyes I think that OT can show that a one-size fits all approach is not that helpful. #OTalk
E.g. Exercise prescription meant the gym. Boring!(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:22:15 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli my colleague is working with role emerging students on a Tier1/2/3 approach for school based OT for nursery/primary school #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:24:31 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Th00ha Great! #otalk maybe #otalk can do something for the next #OTGDS ?…(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:24:43 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @gilliancrossley : @Th00ha Great! #otalk maybe #otalk can do something for the next #OTGDS ?…(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:25:27 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes Sun is a good thing:) Summer is a short but sweet thing in New England. I don’t run a summer mtg for my prof. grp #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:26:28 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley #OTalk Exactly promo need for balance.. ESP in some illnesses fatigue management? Over expectation(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:27:50 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes hopefully it will catch on. Most services here, however, are medical model, not public health. It’s what therapists know #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:28:59 +0100)
@gilliancrossley #otalk OTs have a set of transferable skills Public health seems a great fit for OT! we have the skills! lets tell people and lets use them(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:29:06 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life life balance seems an underrated priority in general. Not addressed unless severely effecting health. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:30:25 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life #otalk maybe we can help with the management of expectation? for individuals and companies, gov etc..(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:30:36 +0100)
@clissa89 @gilliancrossley @kirstyes @allisulli sorry not at #otalk tonight, getting ready for work. as we say, people aren’t just ill 9-5!(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:31:00 +0100)
@kirstyes One way to look at things like this may be to look at funding for small projects but evaluate and write up. #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:31:20 +0100)
@kirstyes @Th00ha @gilliancrossley @symbolic_life but everything else is about prevention so why not balance too ;0) #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:32:16 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @gilliancrossley @allisulli and occupations don’t just occur between 9 & 5.Often most meaningful ones outside these hours? #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:33:32 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life @kirstyes lessons can def be learned with cross cultural understandings don’t think anyone has it perfect though! #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:33:40 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life Many corporate companies have private health care..and discount rates on gyms Which is supports health but? The encouragement of use? #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:34:34 +0100)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley Would love a siesta. Recognition that people may be more productive at diff times. #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:34:39 +0100)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley is it more important that work is done or that you attend set hours? #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:35:36 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @clissa89 @gilliancrossley I just try to make my hours meaningful #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:36:11 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life #otalk yes but I have to wonder how much is to make it seem like you have lots of work benefits.. you don’t have time to use(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:36:36 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @allisulli #otalk me too! we r lucky to understand importance of life balance! for some negative routine becomes constant with no insight(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:38:49 +0100)
@gerbil10 #OTalk I think issue is that OT practice in UK has been shaped by pull of welfare & medical model we have difficulty thinking as OT purists.(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:39:33 +0100)
@Th00ha #otalk its important for pple not to think tht an OT is excessive. OT can be a personal trainer, in life, for life balance.(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:39:37 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life #OTalk Could OTs be utilised in Occ Heatlh department supporting with balance and back to work programs? Supporting public health?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:39:38 +0100)
@allisulli @gilliancrossley @kirstyes this makes perfect sense to me, but this idea is languishing due to economics #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:40:28 +0100)
@kirstyes @gilliancrossley @allisulli we understand it but do we always follow it? #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:41:22 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Symbolic_Life : #OTalk Could OTs be utilised in Occ Heatlh department supporting with balance and back to work programs? Supporting public health?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:41:43 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life #otalk ! Definitely! I think that as OTs we need to be MORE willing to not have OT as our job title but can still be OT.(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:41:52 +0100)
@Th00ha @kirstyes @clissa89 @gilliancrossley @allisulli Yes, at 5am for me right now. But true. Finding balance esp whn out of normal hrs. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:41:58 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @kirstyes @allisulli #otalk I’m not convinced its possible to always be balanced! life throws spanners! we have tools to help us adjust…(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:43:43 +0100)
@allisulli @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley in the US, occupational health nurses have traditionally done this. #OT would b push-in: challenging #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:44:56 +0100)
@kirstyes @gilliancrossley @allisulli you are right of course. #OTalk
It’s maybe whether we are allowed/encouraged to use the tools.(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:45:16 +0100)
@Th00ha @allisulli @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley here in Aus back to work is hugely OT domain. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:46:46 +0100)
@allisulli @gilliancrossley @kirstyes balance has contextual and temporal concepts anyway that changes depending on your point of view #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:48:08 +0100)
@gerbil10 @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @allisulli it’s about using evidenced based practice to demonstrate effectiveness of our tools #OTalk .(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:48:13 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @allisulli not overly familiar with Occ health nurse role. my experience mainly medical. injections etc. med fit not Occ fit for work #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:49:27 +0100)
@kirstyes @gerbil10 @gilliancrossley @allisulli I was thinking more personal tools here but yes there is some need for this. #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:49:31 +0100)
@allisulli @Th00ha @symbolic_life @gilliancrossley Maybe I need to consider a move. Haha I love #publichealth #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:49:32 +0100)
@allisulli @gerbil10 @kirstyes @gilliancrossley this will happen eventually but it is a huge mountain for our field to climb right now #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:51:40 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life @kirstyes encouragement of balance in structure in schools- lunch breaks and holidays? is this publicised?do ppl understand why? #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:52:30 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Th00ha OT global day of service http://t.co/PDlXkAcq #otALK (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:53:43 +0100)
@kirstyes Thanks for tonight #OTalk peeps. I’m going to go post @allisulli summary from last week and post details for next week’s #occhat .(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:54:09 +0100)
@Th00ha RT @gilliancrossley : @Th00ha OT global day of service http://t.co/PDlXkAcq #otALK (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:55:19 +0100)
@gerbil10 @allisulli @kirstyes @gilliancrossley i agree but we are expensive resource and we need to show our value #OTalk .(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:55:21 +0100)
@gilliancrossley Great #OTalk everyone! any final thoughts?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:55:30 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life what mountain isn’t huge? In OT?… Always promote through philosophy and understanding… #OTalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:56:26 +0100)
@Th00ha Interesting #OTalk .(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:56:28 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Th00ha we did an #otalk about promoting OT for the last one. maybe we can do one about OT public health promotion? get some blogs going etc(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:57:47 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @gilliancrossley always a pleasure. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:58:31 +0100)
@gilliancrossley great chat! #otalk as always! I will grab the chat in 24 hours in case anyone else wishes to add any thoughts(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:01:01 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley yes, and expand on what we talked abt here tonight on #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:01:16 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life #OTalk And that’s the way the cookie crumbles.. it’s been emotional… OT talk… Cheers lovely OTs #onceagainattemptingtocharm 😉 #useless (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:01:29 +0100)
@gloriasunto RT @gilliancrossley : https://t.co/NmLg2yoL Tonights #otalk the role of OT in public health. Do you have any thoughts? are you doing this already?(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:20:33 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gilliancrossley There can be so many levels of this. I believe one front is increasing the public’s health literacy. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:24:05 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gilliancrossley @Th00ha health literacy (HL) is 1. From a HL presentation I heard at #AOTA12 , the public’s HL level is appalling. #Otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:31:45 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gilliancrossley @kirstyes agreed! #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:32:30 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life I believe it’s embedded in our practice. It needs to be more obvious, though. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:33:11 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @kirstyes : I think that OT can show that a one-size fits all approach is not that helpful. #OTalk
E.g. Exercise prescription meant the gym. Boring!(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:33:26 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @kirstyes If I am going to run my group, I probably will run through the summer. #otalk (1/2)(Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:34:45 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @kirstyes That’s because summer is “low season” in my church, where I will run my group. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:35:20 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley That’s why I think the public needs to know more about LRD. It deals with energy conservation, too! #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:36:11 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha @gilliancrossley @Symbolic_Life True! Have read too many cases online about life balances where OT could have helped. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:36:59 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley I believe work is done is better, cuz it’s important to go the extra mile for our clients. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:37:47 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha That’s why lifestyle redesign should be more widely known in OT world, and outside, too. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:38:36 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @allisulli : @Th00ha @symbolic_life @gilliancrossley Maybe I need to consider a move. Haha I love #publichealth #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:39:08 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @gerbil10 @kirstyes @gilliancrossley you bet I will help lead a study on LRD and ppl w/ autism. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:39:41 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gerbil10 @allisulli @kirstyes @gilliancrossley we need more studies like the well elderly out there, for different populations. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:40:16 +0100)
@BillWongOT My OT conference presentation in October is actually going to touch on public health. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:42:18 +0100)
@BillWongOT http://t.co/bvYT9Jjw

Health literacy podcast is a valuable resource for this topic. Please put it in summary. #otalk (Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:50:20 +0100)

@allisulli My summary of the #OTalk#Occhat Twitter discussion I led concerning Occupational Artistry as an Antidote to Occupatio? http://t.co/zLHJbhHs (Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:14:17 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @allisulli : My summary of the #OTalk#Occhat Twitter discussion I led concerning Occupational Artistry as an Antidote to Occupatio? http://t.co/zLHJbhHs (Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:15:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk #otalk sorry I missed last night. traffic was a nightmare. thanks @gilliancrossley for stepping in.(Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:02:49 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @gilliancrossley at least I got 1 more week of placement left. So, I can’t wait to join the live chat again in 2 weeks. #otalk (Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:06:44 +0100)
@cumbrianclaire @gilliancrossley Having a nose at your comments from #otalk . My last 2.5 jobs haven’t had an OT title. The one that made me realise that(Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:10:34 +0100)
@trishanutter RT @kirstyes : I think that OT can show that a one-size fits all approach is not that helpful. #OTalk
E.g. Exercise prescription meant the gym. Boring!(Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:08:16 +0100)
@stairliftscheme RT @Helen_otuk : #otalk sorry I missed last night. traffic was a nightmare. thanks @gilliancrossley for stepping in.(Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:11:25 +0100)
@PT_OT_SLP_JOBS_ RT @BillWongOT : http://t.co/bvYT9Jjw

Health literacy podcast is a valuable resource for this topic. Please put it in summary. #otalk (Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:04:00 +0100)

@Trio33 I just added a reflection to my blog about a patient with #depression I wish I could have done more for: http://t.co/yoEJlLse #occhat #otalk (Wed, 25 Jul 2012 20:29:34 +0100)
@clissa89 Future #OTalk topic: OT & Psychological Therapies? #CBT and #DBT were frequently mentioned at #COT2012 …(Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:07:07 +0100)
@BillWongOT another #otalk / #occhat topic- placements and readiness for OT practice. 1/2(Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:11:32 +0100)
@BillWongOT I am thinking of that one because placement requirements somewhat varies in the states. #otalk / #occhat (Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:12:13 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT hi Bill I think that would be an #OTalk topic as it is about OT practice but certainly something worth discussing(Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:16:21 +0100)
@clissa89 #OTalk Interesting to learn ” #CBT Skills” of “graded task activity” & “activity planning” today! #occupationaltherapy (Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:16:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT another one I think of for #otalk – handwriting and keyboarding in peds practice- when to draw the line?(Thu, 26 Jul 2012 18:18:38 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 Oooh. That is interesting. #OTalk Does sound like a good topic to go with.(Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:29:56 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @claireOT Let me know on this, since I am hosting #otalk on 8/21, since I will no longer be a student then.(Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:04:32 +0100)
@clissa89 @cumbrianclaire @LeonoraOT @Kirstyes i hope you’re not saying that we’re boring you 😉 🙂 looking forward to discussing this more in #OTalk (Thu, 26 Jul 2012 22:17:05 +0100)

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Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science Summary

With huge thanks to @allisulli for this timely summary (I received it at the weekend).

#Occhat -Healthcare Social Media Transcript

#Occhat transcript summary contributed by: Allison Sullivan, MS, OTR/L, CAGS

From: Sun Jul 15 13:52:00 PDT 2012

To: Tue Jul 17 13:52:00 PDT 2012

 

Hello everyone; this is Allison Sullivan. I’ve attempted to organize the relevant themes from our “Occupational Artistry as Antidote to Occupational Science” #occhat from Tuesday, July 17.  I enjoyed this chat immensely; I find these issues to be near and dear to my heart, but so often not acknowledged by me in any true professional context of late. I hope you will enjoy, discuss, debate, and reflect on our discussion further. Please feel free to email me if you would like to continue the dialogue outside of twitter: send me a DM on twitter or inbox on facebook, and I will respond with my email address.

 

ACT 1, Scene1: And now, let’s hear a word from our sponsors…

 

First off, I thought to include some relevant, essentially “promotional” tweets, which preceded the chat itself. I do this in an effort to acknowledge the “art of promotion”. Why is that important, you ask? Well, as I continue to reflect on Karen Jacob’s 2012 Slagle lecture, “Promoting Occupational Therapy: Words, Images, and Action”, I believe one way people may demonstrate their willingness to dive into the “art” of therapy, if you will, is to be daring enough to promote our ideas to others. Tweets that promoted this discussion in advance warrant inclusion in this summary due to their relevance in attracting an audience and participants for a performance of sorts: voluntary, meaningful discourse on the role of art in therapy in 140 characters a thought for a full hour. And so:

 

BAOTCOT:  Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to

Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday

 

BillWongOT :@nursefriendly @otalk_occhat today is on #Occhat , not #OTalk

Tue Jul 17 10:21:58 PDT 2012

 

allisulli: @nursefriendly the #Occhat today is on Artistry as Antidote to Science. Join

us! What is lost w efficiency, productivity,evidence emphasis?

Tue Jul 17 10:31:03 PDT 2012

 

allisulli: @nursefriendly for resources related to the #Occhat today, please refer to

#Otalk-occhat page on #facebook.

Tue Jul 17 10:32:24 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly: Thanks, does it need to be changed on the Healthcare Hashtag Project

Calendar? RT @BillWongOT: @otalk_occhat today is on #Occhat, not #OTalk

Tue Jul 17 10:34:52 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @nursefriendly @BillWongOT @otalk_occhat it should be changed; it

alternates each week. Week 1 #OTalk. Week 2 #Occhat. Thank you!

Tue Jul 17 10:37:34 PDT 2012

 

Nursefriendly: Wednesday #Healthcare #Tweetchats (all EDT) 3p #NurChat 3p #occhat 8p#treatdiarieschat 9p #mhsm 9p #solvePT 9:30p #EOLchat -#nurseup

Tue Jul 17 11:02:13 PDT 2012

 

OSEurope RT @BAOTCOT: Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday

Tue Jul 17 11:29:15 PDT 2012

 

OTalk_Occhat :@allisulli @nursefriendly @billwongot Thanks for replying.Topic tonight is occupational artistry as antidote 2 occupational science.#occhat

Tue Jul 17 11:30:37 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk RT @BAOTCOT: Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday

Tue Jul 17 11:38:40 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly Tuesday #Healthcare #Tweetchats (all EDT): 3pm #NurChat 3pm #occhat 8pm#treatdiarieschat 9pm #mhsm 9pm #solvePT 9:3… http://t.co/8chsV4Ki

Tue Jul 17 11:39:47 PDT 2012

 

ACT 1, scene 2: Social niceties and Collegiality:

The next group of chats preceded the discussion itself, but continued into the discussion for its duration. I included them in this summary due to my belief that, on an individual and personal level, they exemplify the caring nature that according to Mosey, defines the art in therapy. This is one of the significant themes of our discussion. Participants in this group take the time to let others know if they won’t be attending, check in on each other, and encourage each other in furthering their professional expertise and artistry. This caring nature nourishes the environment in which creativity can flourish, in the long tradition of artist communities such as Yaddo, in Saratoga Springs, New York:

 

fullyOccupied #Occhat my apols 4 tonight -off out with chums for supper -will look forward toreviewing tweets later

Tue Jul 17 11:32:47 PDT 2012

 

clissa89 @fullyOccupied hope you have a lovely meal!! look forward to reading your

thoughts afterwards #Occhat

 

Helen_otuk: Good evening #occhat.

Tue Jul 17 12:00:23 PDT 2012

 

Trio33: @allisulli this is Carol Ross in Cumbria checking in for #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:01:09 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly Hello Everyone, Andrew Lopez, RN from #NewJersey, lurking for the most part 🙂 #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:01:26 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @Helen_otuk Hi Helen! Thank you for helping out tonite! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:01:37 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @clissa89 Hi Clarissa! Thanks for helping out tonite! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:02:09 PDT 2012

 

Trio33: @clissa89 @allisulli good idea Clarissa! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:02:12 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @Trio33 Hi Carol! So glad you can join us:) for #occhat!

Tue Jul 17 12:02:49 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT: Evening all! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:02:52 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk @nursefriendly welcome @nursefriendly lurking is good. Do join in if the urge takes you. #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:03:01 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: Glad to have you here @nursefriendly #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:11:26 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: @beingyourdoing Hi Keith, glad you could make it to #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:04:41 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: Evening everyone at #occhat Welcome back @Trio33 and welcome @nurse

friendly.

Tue Jul 17 12:07:16 PDT 2012

 

OTalk_Occhat: Hi this is @kirstyes. Just to say we generally tweet us ourselves using #occhat rather than use this account during the actual chat.

Tue Jul 17 12:08:13 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: I am back on tweetdeck… must remember to add #occhat.

Tue Jul 17 12:09:56 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk ok switching to tweetchat keep missing the # off! DOH #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:27:16 PDT 2012

 

 

 

 

kirstyes @Trio33 Do you belong to Lapidus? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:48:29 PDT 2012

 

 

Trio33:@kirstyes yes and Lapidus Northwes too #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:50:42 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Trio33 I follow the Facebook group and joined. Notice there is no

professional category anymore. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:52:07 PDT 2012

 

Trio33 @kirstyes good idea. I have a WordPress blog so I could post there? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:02:28 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes looking forward to you #occhating that. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:52:34 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Helen_otuk Thought I was #occhat ting the paper. We did #OTalk creative

reflection a while back I think but can do again if wanted.

Tue Jul 17 12:53:50 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes Was hoping @claireOT would be looking at PIP for #OTalk but not heard back.

@BillWongOT are you still on placement next week? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:57:59 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT: Join you guys very late today. Just got done with placement. #Occhat

#Occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:56:01 PDT 2012

Helen_otuk @kirstyes oh I get confused, maybe I missed it. Will check the blog. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:55:16 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Helen_otuk Or was it just films? #occhat my memory is shocking.

Tue Jul 17 12:56:08 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes did films… I think we are as bad as each other! No hope for

either of us. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:57:12 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @kirstyes I want to go to #COT2013 so much! #occhat Hang out with all you

artful occupational scientists so I can learn more! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:53:05 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @oseurope I want in after I am done with OTD too.

#Occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:57:38 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @kirstyes @claireot two more weeks. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:00:46 PDT 2012

 

 

Act 2 Scene 1: Defining the Art of Therapy

Now our discussion begins in earnest.  The first major question about which the group got excited concerned the definition of the “art” of practice. The metaphor of the therapeutic relationship as a dance was introduced, and the role creativity plays in the “artistic process” were the first ideas to see widespread support. This led to a long and thoughtful discussion that essentially ran for the remainder of the chat, concerning features that were felt to define the art in therapy, including: creative applications of science knowledge, the caring nature of a therapeutic relationship (introduced in Act 1), therapeutic use of self, client-centeredness, holism, complexity, individuality and communication skills Attempts were also made to define science as a way of framing the definition of art.

 

Allisulli: Question for the group: What defines the #art of practice and how is an

antidote to the #science of practice? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:06:16 PDT 2012

 

Beingyourdoing: #occhat occupational artistry -anyone else think therapeutic relationship feels like a dance?

Tue Jul 17 12:03:02 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: @beingyourdoing #occhat, a dance good analogy.

Tue Jul 17 12:06:20 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT: @beingyourdoing I think so-from both the client and therapist perspectives

 

Helen_otuk: @beingyourdoing are we always dancing to the same tune? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:07:14 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing good question-not always, but who is the

follower will depend on situation. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:57:02 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @beingyourdoing Great way to describe it. #occhat Hokey Cokey. You put

some evidence in here, some clinical reasoning in there and mix it…

Tue Jul 17 12:11:26 PDT 2012

 

Trio33:Google definition of art: The expression or application of human creative skill

and imagination, vs science -systematic study #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:11:34 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: @Trio33 thanks for sharing definition! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:12:24 PDT 2012

 

Trio33:@clissa89 I think creativity is important in practice and science seems to

exclude it #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:13:48 PDT 2012

 

 

kirstyes @Trio33 Great. So art of practice could be seen as approp creative app of

scientific study alongside other insights? #occhat

 

clissa89: @kirstyes science and evidence is important. then applied creatively as

@Lisa_D_OT mentioned #occhat Tues Jul 17 12:10:14 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: 1984 (!) Devereaux stated that the caring relationship is the art, rather than the

science of health care #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:12:48 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @Lisa_D_OT So true! This would be the essence, I think of therapeutic use of

self, an art and a science, I believe #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:14:43 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @allisulli have a bit of an issue with antidote, makes science seem like

something to get rid off. Accompanying vitamins and minerals #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:13:26 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @kirstyes I understand this statement, but believe that the artistry of the caring

relationship is a balm for dehumanizing #science #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:16:03 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: like this more MT @allisulli: Devereaux stated that the caring relationship is the art, rather than the science of health care #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:16:27 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly @allisulli The “art” is treating the patient as more than just a “knee

replacement” or “back injury” or “gait dysfunction” #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:16:32 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@allisulli and i also believe part of the art is explaining the science/rationale to

clients (in an accessible way) #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:23:51 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @Trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes Mosey 1984 described the “artful practitioner”

as one who sees the individual as indivisible, complex #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:21:21 PDT 2012

 

Nursefriendly: See them as a person, realize how your treatments will affect them holistically as a person, once they are home. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:17:36 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes RT @nursefriendly: See them as a person, realize how your treatments will

affect them holistically as a person, once they are home. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:21:13 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@kirstyes Taylor (2009?) says therapeutic use of self is the most important OT

skill @allisulli #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:25:18 PDT 2012

 

 Allisulli: @clissa89 so true! Peloquin notes without the caring that grounds the

therapist-pt relationship, OT will be a sterile #science #occhat

 

Allisulli: @clissa89 @helen_otuk #art of reintegration allows 4 more

#complexity and variance and serves as antidote 2 reductionism #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:28:57 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk Like this RT @allisulli: #art of reintegration allows 4 more #complexity and variance and serves as antidote 2 reductionism #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:30:17 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@allisulli @kirstyes perhaps we have different definitions of “science”. my

interpretation is evidence, theory, clinical reasoning #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:32:45 PDT 2012

.

kirstyes @clissa89 @allisulli Perhaps we need the science to prove that the

relationship is the important bit ;0) #occhat Research study anyone?

Tue Jul 17 12:24:47 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Helen_otuk @allisulli antidote to reductionism yes but not all science

reductionist. Take auto/biography conf I was at. Very Indiv #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:31:51 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk #occhat I often think the #art of what I do is aligned to working as a weaver between the client and the funding bodies/panels etc #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:32:45 PDT 2012

 

allisulli Qualities of #Art of occupation: Complexity, patterns/metapatterns, process,

shaping, variance, transicience. Science terms for #art #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:54:54 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: More aspects of #art of occupation: meaning, motivation, violation,

identification, appeal, flow, intactness, engagement #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:57:40 PDT 2012

 

Trio33 @allisulli I am a big fan of Flow #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:00:46 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @Trio33 @allisulli flow, mindfulness and presence. All good topics for

consideration. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:02:03 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @kirstyes Enter the #Kawa analogy! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:01:52 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @allisulli Ooh is translator in the Kawa?! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:19 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @kirstyes If not, it should be. Is #Kawa model more about the #art or #science

of occupation? Hmm… ah well food for thought #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:05:10 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: RT @kirstyes: @Trio33 @allisulli flow, mindfulness and presence. All good

topics for consideration. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:02:44 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: I love a good bit of flow! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:37

 

Trio33: @clissa89 @kirstyes I like all 3 but Flow best I think #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:05:01 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: RT @kirstyes: @Trio33 @allisulli flow, mindfulness and presence. All good

topics for consideration. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:34 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk @allisulli something to reflect on? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:06:12 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@Trio33 @kirstyes im partial to a bit of #mindfulness! prefer that to the “oh

where did the time go” feeling -tho pleasurable #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:06:28 PDT 2012

 

ACT 2, Scene 2: Does our current healthcare system encourage the art of practice?

Another significant thread to emerge from the discussion, interestingly enough, ran in tandem with the task of defining the art of therapy. This concerned the intentionally provocative question as to whether or not the current healthcare system encourages the art of practice. While this was a shorter thread, the concern and frustration with modern healthcare delivery systems was clearly voiced. Responses to this question noted that the realities of productivity, efficiency, and documentation all create barriers to investing in the art of therapy as it was being defined in the previous thread. Some participants demonstrated a darkly humorous approach to their tweets in this addressing this topic, another way I believe healthcare practitioners sometimes speak to their artistic needs in highly clinical settings. This theme also opened the gates to the next major idea the group considered: should our priority as clinicians be on the art or the science of practice?

 

Allisulli: Agree or Disagree: “Our current health care system does not encourage the art

of practice” #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:01:01 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: Also, Do you agree or disagree w Peloquin that the “Current health care

system does not encourage the #art of practice”? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:08:14 PDT 2012

 

OTalk_Occhat: “@allisulli: Agree or Disagree: “Our current health care system does not

encourage the art of practice” #occhat” Agree in some ways.

 

kirstyes RT @allisulli: Agree or Disagree: “Our current health care system does not

encourage the art of practice” #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:11:46 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly: Thanks, using the “art of nursing” as an example, we rarely get to focus

on those basics that make it an art. #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:14:30 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly @kirstyes Often, we are given “tasks” documentation, assessment, teaching with little time left for actual time spent with #patients #occhat

Jul 17 12:15:23 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @nursefriendly #occhat Yes the fact that time spent with clients is not as

valued is not good. Stats and being told you are too holistic?

Tue Jul 17 12:20:10 PDT 2012

 

nursefriendly @kirstyes 🙂 “What, you actually want to spend time with your #patient?” What #healthcare world do you think you are in? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:32:30 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @nursefriendly Education ;0) #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:35:00 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: @kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk time is definitely an issue. thinking

specifically of my placement in acute medical! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:29:52 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT @clissa89 definitely agree, cuts are meaning less time to spend building

therapeutic relationship #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:31:49 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk RT @Lisa_D_OT: @clissa89 definitely agree, cuts are meaning less time to spend building therapeutic relationship #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:33:11 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Trio33 @clissa89 @nursefriendly Great points. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:23:40 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @Helen_otuk Yes, Helen, but sometimes we need empathy “I am not my

disease” #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:23:48 PDT 2012

 

ACT 2. Scene 3: Which comes first, the Science or the Art?

Previous discussion identifying constituents of the art of practice and constraints to exploiting this skill provoked a long and heartfelt group exploration concerning what essentially amounts to a discourse on “best practices”. Which aspect, art or science, should clinicians prioritize in practice? There was general consensus from the group that both art and science were required for best practice.

 

clissa89: @kirstyes @allisulli i like to think that healthcare professionals treating me

know their “science”! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:16:39 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @clissa89 @kirstyes Yes, but if that “science-tist” has no bedside manner,

treats you as your disease, how does that make you feel? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:18:35 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@allisulli i agree the art is extremely important. but my doctor is skilled in his

science and also in therapeutic use of self! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:20:03 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @clissa89 that appears to be an ever rarer breed of #doctor in this era of

#efficiency #productivity, #documentation #occhat We need art! Tue Jul 17 12:22:34 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@allisulli do they have to be mutually exclusive? #art #science #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:17:21 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @clissa89 Not in my opinion, although the degree to which the science is

diminishing the art is a scary trend #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:19:46 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @allisulli @clissa89 Not good at all. I think both are equally as important.

#occhat Tue Jul 17 12:22:12 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT: @allisulli @clissa89 but I think eventually there will be a balance, at least from how I see it as a client. #Occhat Tue Jul 17 12:59:55 PDT

 

kirstyes @Trio33 @clissa89 Would you say you utilise science in your area? And

@nursefriendly -does this echo nursing science and pract? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:17:16 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: @kirstyes absolutely! not medical-ey science but science re knowing what has

been tried & tends to be effective -a starting point #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:18:37 PDT 2012

 

 

Lisa_D_OT RT @Trio33: @kirstyes @clissa89 I use research evidence to inform my

practice, art to apply it, scientific methods to evaluate it #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:24:12 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @clissa89 @lisa_d_ot totally agree. Plus I think OS in particular has strong

focus on qual methods which helps with artistic app?! #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:18:45 PDT 2012

 

Nursefriendly: The science is always there behind nursing practice, theory. It is the cold,

analytical part of the job, allows objectivity. #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:18:55 PDT 2012

 

Trio33:@kirstyes @clissa89 @nursefriendly I use research evidence to inform my

practice, art to apply it, scientific methods to evaluate it #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:20:55 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT @allisulli science more aligned with medical model? Although we need

evidence, OT is creative too -art of problem solving w/ client #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:22:04 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @Lisa_D_OT yes. Devereaux stated that CARING is the ART that transforms

the SCIENCE of occupation into a therapeutic practice #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:25:01 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @clissa89 @helen_otuk of course. Science is essential-we break things down

to understand them more clearly but #art re-integrates #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:26:41 PDT 2012

 

allisulli RT @clissa89: @kirstyes Taylor (2009?) says therapeutic use of self is the

most important OT skill @allisulli #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:26:58 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @clissa89 @allisulli Good point. I think we are in effect all agreeing with the

points but disagreeing over language. #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:34:23 PDT 2012

 

 

 

kirstyes RT“@allisulli: Science is essential-we break things down to understand them

more clearly but #art re-integrates #occhat” Like this more Tue Jul 17 12:28:40 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk Agree RT @clissa89: perhaps we have different definitions of “science”. my

interpretation is evidence, theory, clinical reasoning #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:34:56 PDT 2012

 

ACT 2, Scene 4:  How do we make lemonade from lemons?

Since we are a solutions-oriented field of inquiry, it is only natural that a discussion on the constraints on the practice of art in therapy would give way to a discussion of methods for ensuring its growth. Suggestions from resources and supported in group discussion included: reading and reflecting on relevant novels, blogs, social media, client stories, films, short stories, and personal reflection time.

 

Allisulli: @kirstyes @clissa89 So what can we do to address the challenges to the #art

of caring in healthcare? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:30:02 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @kirstyes @clissa89 Peloquin (1984) recommended reading relevant

novels to encourage ethical reflection #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:32:21 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @allisulli @clissa89 Totally agree with this. Novels all the way. @Trio33

#occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:33:27 PDT 2012

 

Trio33:@kirstyes @allisulli @clissa89 absolutely agree -novel, stories, creative

writing #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:37:16 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @kirstyes @Helen_otuk #reading is fundamental to both the #art and #science

of ethical, caring medical practice #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:34:11 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: Anyone want to recommend favorite novels that caused you to reflect on the

caring nature of artful practice? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:36:09 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@allisulli novels that have prompted me to reflect: Stuart: A Life Backwards,

The Diving Bell & the Butterfly, Cries Unheard #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:37:50 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: The standard for me is “The Miracle Worker”. Helen Keller and Annie

Sullivan defined the therapeutic relationship #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:38:10 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: @allisulli not read that one! but have seen a movie #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:39:02 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @clissa89 An “oldie but a goodie” -just like me! haha #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:41:21 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@allisulli The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time is one of my

all-time favourites #autism #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:38:37 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT: RT @clissa89: Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time is one of my all-time favourites #autism #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:39:40 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: Agree… RT @clissa89: The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time is one of my all-time favourites #autism #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:39:41 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: @allisulli social media also opens up a huge wealth of resources to better

understand experiences of ill-health/services #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:40:18 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: I have found many blogs that have made a BIG impact on me… #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:41:20 PDT 2012

 

Trio33: I also learn from the writing produced by patients in my writing groups #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:42:28 PDT 2012

 

allisulli RT @Trio33: I also learn from the writing produced by patients in my writing

groups #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:43:28 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@Lisa_D_OT often clients seem stunned that i want to know about their

experiences. but hearing helps me to help them better #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:44:47 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: Thnaks folks some new blogs for me to check out there… #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:46:37 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @allisulli Short Story The Yellow Wallpaper is my go to! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:47:37 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @kirstyes I will put it at the top of my summer reading list! Thanks for the tip

#occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:49:00 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @allisulli Here you go. http://t.co/6D96c5yg #occhat Should take about 10 -20

mins. Tue Jul 17 12:50:16 PDT 2012

 

allisulli RT @kirstyes: @allisulli Here you go. http://t.co/6D96c5yg #occhat Should take

about 10 -20 mins.

Tue Jul 17 12:50:51 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: I recall some sketches that a local LD group put together. Very powerful from those who often have a small voice. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:47:46 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes RT @Helen_otuk: I recall some sketches that a local LD group put together.

Very powerful from those who often have a small voice. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:50:28 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT @clissa89 not a common experience to have staff ask about experiences! But really helps to understand the whole person #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:47:50 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @clissa89 @lisa_d_ot Not good that they feel stunned. Would be better to be

bored of telling it. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:49:17 PDT 2012

 

allisulli Mosey suggested that the #art of practice encourages therapists to learn about

themselves, change themselves, understand themselves #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:46:35 PDT 2012

 

allisulli Can anyone suggest ways we can learn more about ourselves inservice to the #art of therapy? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:48:06 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT @allisulli As a novice, reflection really helps. On practice and on my own

occupational experiences #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:50:27 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @allisulli Creative reflection. #occhat The workshop I ran at #COT2012 on

stories/poems as reflection went down well.

Tue Jul 17 12:51:22 PDT 2012

 

Trio33@kirstyes @allisulli Writing is gr8 tool for reflection alone or in group. I vary the

methods I use to get different insights #occhat Tue Jul 17 12:53:44 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @Helen_otuk exactly! I have much reflecting to do and hopefully, when I get

the grabchat together, it will help others do the same:) #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:07:40 PDT 2012

 

 

Act 3, Scene 1: Closing thoughts: balance, humor, collegiality, and the Star Trek connection

In conclusion, the group came to consensus on the idea of the dual nature of therapy as both art and science, its constituent factors, and the need to balance both aspects of care for best practice. Once again, humor, collegiality, enthusiasm for the future, and the caring nature between participants entered the tweet thread, highlighting the creativity and spontaneity that enliven this dialogue.

 

allisulli 2 minutes left in our #occhat today. Final thoughts? Is art an antidote or

complement to the science of occupation. Final votes! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:58:59 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant and client

centered therapists #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:59:56 PDT 2012

 

Trio33@allisulli compliment #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:18 PDT 2012

 

Trio33: @allisulli or complement even!! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:32 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk ok folks, 2minute warning! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:59:10 PDT 2012

 

allisulli RT @clissa89: @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant

and client-centered therapists #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:00:18 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @clissa89 @allisulli so true. That is what I am going to preach for the course I will design for my OTD project. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:01:47 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT RT @clissa89: @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant and client-centered therapists #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:01:02 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @clissa89 @allisulli I also think is up to the client, too. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:04:02 PDT 2012

 

Lisa_D_OT RT @clissa89: @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant

and client-centered therapists #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:09 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT: @allisulli I would vote for compliment. The art and science of OT goes hand in hand. #Occhat Tue Jul 17 13:07:33 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT: @allisulli @trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes and I know some aspects for me is harder than a lot of my #NT counterparts. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:10:56 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT: @allisulli @trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes yup… That is what i think OT students are working hard to be. #Occhat

 

beingyourdoing #occhat. Relationship between art and science expressed well by Star Trek.Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, captain)

Tue Jul 17 12:58:35 PDT 2012

 

clissa89@beingyourdoing haha i love the geekiness of that analogy!! 🙂 #occhat

Tue Jul 17 12:59:12 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: RT @beingyourdoing: #occhat. Relationship between art and science

expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, … Tue Jul 17 12:59:28 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @beingyourdoing Having just returned from San Diego during #Comicon, your

analogy is well-taken! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:00:02 PDT 2012

 

beingyourdoing @allisulli #occhat comicon totally jealous. Tue Jul 17 13:01:12 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @beingyourdoing I was at a #yoga conference. Nexus of #yoga and #comicon

was surreal.#Art #occupationaltherapy #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:02:41 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @clissa89 @beingyourdoing Yes. Lol. Good one. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:00:28 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @clissa89 thanks, Clarissa for the great ideas. I enjoyed hosting and would be

happy to help out again in the future. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:03:25 PDT 2012

 

DebbiiHarrison:RT @beingyourdoing: #occhat. Relationship between art and science

expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, …

Tue Jul 17 13:04:55 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: Thanks to everyone for a rich conversation tonight regarding “Occupational

Artistry as antidote to Occupational Science”. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:06:28 PDT 2012

 

 

Helen_otuk: bye @lisa_d_OT. Chat soon #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:06:37 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@Lisa_D_OT great to have you here tonihgt, enjoy your tea! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:07:04 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli Enjoy the tea? Accompanied by Superstar? #occhat

Great contributions as always. Tue Jul 17 13:07:24 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli enjoy tea! #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:08:09 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: If we have an #occhat about #mindfulness /flow/presence, I would like to invite

the #BPDChat crew to join us! they know way more than me!

Tue Jul 17 13:07:38 PDT 2012

 

@clissa89 Great idea, Clarissa! It would be wonderful to have a forum for

allisulli #occhat or #otalk and #bpdchat @CarlDunnJr @amanda_stand

Tue Jul 17 13:12:01 PDT 2012

 

amanda_stand: @clissa89 I meant to ask what is #occhat? Thanks 🙂

Tue Jul 17 13:08:22 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: @clissa89 Cool. I still need to sort out all the suggestions into lists. Did you

want to host that one the #occhat after next??

Tue Jul 17 13:08:49 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@kirstyes sure, can do! i think @ClaireOT and I came up with some #OTalk

topics stemming from #BPDChat too – but forget what! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:10:28 PDT 2012

 

clissa89: @amanda_stand #occhat is a fortnightly tweetchat where we talk about the

relationship between daily occupations & wellbeing… & stuff!

Tue Jul 17 13:09:21 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk: @kirstyes sounds great and I will host #otalk on public health if you want.

#occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:09:37 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: RT @clissa89: If we have an #occhat about #mindfulness /flow/presence, I

would like to invite the #BPDChat crew to join us! they know wa …

Tue Jul 17 13:10:25 PDT 2012

 

 

 

amanda_stand: RT @clissa89: @amanda_stand #occhat is a fortnightly tweetchat where we talk about the relationship between daily occupations & well …

Tue Jul 17 13:11:08 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Helen_otuk @clissa89 Me too. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:11:36 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT:@clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot let me in on the times for the #BPDChat

#Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:12:49 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli:@clissa89 @kirstyes @ClaireOT I have some ideas, too. Pushy American, you

know, but I love that #BPDChat. Very helpful #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:13:01 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@allisulli it is, #BPDChat gives me so much to think about and reminds me to

be more mindful and kind to myself too! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:13:46 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk @allisulli all ideas welcome! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:14:00 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot haha! By the time I am done with my OTD, I will be a pushy Chinese… Lol! #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:14:02 PDT 2012

 

allisulli @BillWongOT @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot Who knows, Bill, you may get

there even sooner than you think! haha:) jk #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:15:36 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes: Everyone happy to write some creative reflections for two weeks time and post

on own blog or let me post on #OTalk #Occhat one.

Tue Jul 17 13:13:24 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes I can post up information I developed for workshop? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:13:54 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes please… I reflect but not sure how creative it is! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:14:38 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: RT @clissa89: @allisulli it is, #BPDChat gives me so much to think about and

reminds me to be more mindful and kind to myself too! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:14:32 PDT 2012

 

 

 

kirstyes @BillWongOT Anything relevant. We discussed it as being a way to get the art

into our practice. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:15:39 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli:RT @Helen_otuk: @kirstyes yes please… I reflect but not sure how creative it

is! #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:15:56 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @clissa89 Yup guess so. Day after sis birthday. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:16:14 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @Helen_otuk Will sort that out then. It was about using short story/poem

forms. Just need to check happy with it as is. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:17:04 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot I just need to find the right balance-I got this from my mom. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:17:14 PDT 2012

 

Allisulli: @BillWongOT @clissa89 One of my specialities, too, Bill. Need to remind

myself often to focus on my strengths, too. #perfectionism #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:17:30 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @kirstyes ok… You got it! #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:17:36 PDT 2012

 

kirstyes @BillWongOT Great. Will post more details on blog/Facebook anyway. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:18:11 PDT 2012

 

Trio33@kirstyes where on facebook? #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:19:52 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @Ruben_sm86 you going to WFOT in 2014? #Occhat maybe you can gather some ideas there.

Tue Jul 17 13:20:06 PDT 2012

 

allisulli #occhat @kirstyes @BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @clissa89 @claireOT

@gilliancrossley can someone email a template for the grab chat to me?

Tue Jul 17 13:20:17 PDT 2012

 

Helen_otuk Well i am off to make coffee, ay catch you all later. Thanks for a great chat

folks. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:20:30 PDT 2012

 

 

clissa89: @Helen_otuk great to have you here! glad you have interweb again! enjoy

your coffee #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:20:54 PDT 2012

 

Kirstyes:@Trio33 If you look at @OTalk_Occhat profile. Facebook and blog info on

their. Anything posted by us tweets from there too. #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:21:33 PDT 2012

 

Trio33: @Helen_otuk bye Helen #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:21:38 PDT 2012

 

Ruben_sm86 @BillWongOT a little bit far… I will try! 🙂 where are all of you from? #occhat Tue Jul 17 13:23:40 PDT 2012

 

clissa89:@allisulli enjoy your swim!! i love a cool swim on a hot day! 🙂 thanks again for

hosting #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:23:43 PDT 2012

 

BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk @clissa89 @claireot @gilliancrossley have to go home to see if I can contribute more. #Occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:26:51 PDT 2012

 

Trio33:@kirstyes @OTalk_Occhat thanks #occhat

Tue Jul 17 13:27:36 PDT 2012

 

Symbolic_Life #Occhat OT has gr8 scientific and art quals. But it makes me wonder how diff settings effect this with mindless set assess+interventions?

Tue Jul 17 13:49:27 PDT 2012

 

Please feel free to add your thoughts in the comments below. A post will follow shortly with ideas for preparing for next week’s #occhat (Tues 31st July 2012).

 

 

Occupational Artistry as an Antidote to Occupational Science – Grabchat

Summary to follow:

Involved …

@allisulli @kirstyes @clissa89 @BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @Trio33 @Lisa_D_OT @nursefriendly @beingyourdoing @Ruben_sm86 @amanda_stand @pd2ot @DebbiiHarrison @OTalk_Occhat @ColleenRNCoach @CarlDunnJr @BPDFFS @BusyOT @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied @BAOTCOT @jenfurmckinky

Top resources …

http://t.co/U07mGY3J
http://t.co/9uZ2SZuN
http://t.co/6D96c5yg
http://t.co/oKKGrc0j.
http://t.co/8chsV4Ki

Related tags …

#art #otalk #bpdchat #science #otuesday

See Twitter for more tweets, people, videos and photos for #occhat

@allisulli Hope you #occhat tweeps are ready for a chaotic step into “artistry as antidote to science”! 3 pm EST/ 8 pm UK/ 5 am Australia #OTuesday (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:40:18 +0100)
@allisulli And since I took the red eye back from Cali overnite, I am in a properly chaotic mindset for this #occhat on #OTuesday #art as #antidote (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:45:08 +0100)
@BAOTCOT Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:18:54 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @BAOTCOT : Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:21:14 +0100)
@BillWongOT @nursefriendly @otalk_occhat today is on #Occhat , not #OTalk (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:21:58 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly the #Occhat today is on Artistry as Antidote to Science. Join us! What is lost w efficiency, productivity,evidence emphasis?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:31:03 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly for resources related to the #Occhat today, please refer to #Otalk -occhat page on #facebook .(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:32:24 +0100)
@nursefriendly Thanks, does it need to be changed on the Healthcare Hashtag Project Calendar? RT @BillWongOT : @otalk_occhat today is on #Occhat , not #OTalk (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:34:52 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly @BillWongOT @otalk_occhat it should be changed; it alternates each week. Week 1 #OTalk . Week 2 #Occhat . Thank you!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:37:34 +0100)
@allisulli RT @BAOTCOT : Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:40:07 +0100)
@gilliancrossley Sad to be missing #Occhat but I only have 1 bar on the 3G : ( have fun tweeters!!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:41:34 +0100)
@clissa89 @gilliancrossley you will be missed! hope the moving’s going well! #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:41:56 +0100)
@nursefriendly Wednesday #Healthcare #Tweetchats (all EDT) 3p #NurChat 3p #occhat 8p #treatdiarieschat 9p #mhsm 9p #solvePT 9:30p #EOLchat#nurseup (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:02:13 +0100)
@allisulli Great food for thought for today’s #occhat re: artistry as #antidote to #science : http://t.co/oKKGrc0j. “An oldie but a goodie!”(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:06:35 +0100)
@allisulli More source work for today’s #occhat on “Occupational Artistry as Antidote to Occupational Science”: http://t.co/9uZ2SZuN (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:09:47 +0100)
@allisulli More source material for today’s #occhat on “Occupational Artistry as Antidote to Occupational Science” : http://t.co/9uZ2SZuN (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:10:59 +0100)
@pd2ot @clissa89 @gilliancrossley also missing #occhat as I’m just about to start a Zumba class. Hope it’s a good one ( #occhat , that is!)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:13:55 +0100)
@clissa89 @pd2ot you will also be missed! hope you have a fantastic zumba class!! i’ve got a job application to finish before then #eep #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:15:19 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat @allisulli @nursefriendly @billwongot Thanks for replying.Topic tonight is occupational artistry as antidote 2 occupational science. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:30:37 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #Occhat my apols 4 tonight – off out with chums for supper – will look forward to reviewing tweets later(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:32:47 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @BAOTCOT : Also from 8pm #Occhat discusses Occupational Artistry as an antidote to Occupational Science: http://t.co/U07mGY3J #OTuesday (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:38:40 +0100)
@nursefriendly Tuesday #Healthcare #Tweetchats (all EDT): 3pm #NurChat 3pm #occhat 8pm #treatdiarieschat 9pm #mhsm 9pm #solvePT 9:3? http://t.co/8chsV4Ki (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:39:47 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @allisulli : More source work for today’s #occhat on “Occupational Artistry as Antidote to Occupational Science”: http://t.co/9uZ2SZuN (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:45:40 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @allisulli : Great food for thought for today’s #occhat re: artistry as #antidote to #science : http://t.co/oKKGrc0j. “An oldie but a goodie!”(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:55:05 +0100)
@allisulli I posted some links earlier re tonite’s #occhat topic “Occupational Artistry as Antidote to Occupational Science”. See tweets in thread(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:55:35 +0100)
@allisulli Please check in as you come online for tonite’s #occhat on “Occupational Artistry as Antidote to Occupational Science”. Thank you!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:59:21 +0100)
@clissa89 @fullyOccupied hope you have a lovely meal!! look forward to reading your thoughts afterwards #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:00:00 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Good evening #occhat .(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:00:23 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli hi there, i’m here… sort of… almost! just getting a drink #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:00:32 +0100)
@allisulli Agree or Disagree: “Our current health care system does not encourage the art of practice” #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:01:01 +0100)
@Trio33 @allisulli this is Carol Ross in Cumbria checking in for #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:01:09 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Great topic for tonight’s #occhat thats @allisulli (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:01:18 +0100)
@nursefriendly Hello Everyone, Andrew Lopez, RN from #NewJersey , lurking for the most part 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:01:26 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk Hi Helen! Thank you for helping out tonite! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:01:37 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 Hi Clarissa! Thanks for helping out tonite! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:02:09 +0100)
@Trio33 @clissa89 @allisulli good idea Clarissa! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:02:12 +0100)
@allisulli @Trio33 Hi Carol! So glad you can join us:) for #occhat !(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:02:49 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Evening all! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:02:52 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @nursefriendly welcome @nursefriendly lurking is good. Do join in if the urge takes you. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:03:01 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat occupational artistry – anyone else think therapeutic relationship feels like a dance?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:03:02 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly Lurking is welcome at the #occhat !(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:03:12 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT Hi Lisa! Thanks for joining us in this artistic foray #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:04:17 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing Hi Keith, glad you could make it to #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:04:41 +0100)
@allisulli @beingyourdoing I think a dance is a great way to describe the therapeutic relationship. I also like’s Royeen’s description of a web #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:05:09 +0100)
@Trio33 Hi everyone. I’m pleased I remembered to get here for 8 this time! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:09 +0100)
@allisulli Question for the group: What defines the #art of practice and how is an antidote to the #science of practice? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:16 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing #occhat , a dance good analogy.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:06:20 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing are we always dancing to the same tune? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:07:14 +0100)
@kirstyes Evening everyone at #occhat Welcome back @Trio33 and welcome @nurse friendly.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:07:16 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat Hi this is @kirstyes . Just to say we generally tweet us ourselves using #occhat rather than use this account during the actual chat.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:08:13 +0100)
@allisulli Also, Do you agree or disagree w Peloquin that the “Current health care system does not encourage the #art of practice”? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:08:14 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli have to admit i’ve not had a chance to review the articles that you posted! but there are a lot of service pressures #art #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:08:44 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I am back on tweetdeck… must remember to add #occhat .(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:09:56 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 so true! Peloquin notes without the caring that grounds the therapist-pt relationship, OT will be a sterile #science #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:11:14 +0100)
@kirstyes @beingyourdoing Great way to describe it. #occhat Hokey Cokey. You put some evidence in here, some clinical reasoning in there and mix it…(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:11:26 +0100)
@clissa89 Glad to have you here @nursefriendly #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:11:26 +0100)
@Trio33 Google definition of art: The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, vs science – systematic study #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:11:34 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @allisulli : Agree or Disagree: “Our current health care system does not encourage the art of practice” #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:11:46 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @allisulli : Agree or Disagree: “Our current health care system does not encourage the art of practice” #occhat ? Agee to some degree.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:11:56 +0100)
@clissa89 @Trio33 thanks for sharing definition! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:24 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @allisulli all clients are different, so tailoring your practice to them is an art – what works for one won’t work for all! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:36 +0100)
@allisulli 1984 (!) Devereaux stated that the caring relationship is the art, rather than the science of health care #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:48 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli have a bit of an issue with antidote,makes science seem like something to get rid off.Accompanying vitamins and minerals #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:13:26 +0100)
@Trio33 @clissa89 I think creativity is important in practice and science seems to exclude it #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:13:48 +0100)
@nursefriendly Thanks, using the “art of nursing” as an example, we rarely get to focus on those basics that make it an art. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:14:30 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes science and evidence is important. then applied creatively as @Lisa_D_OT mentioned #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:14:33 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT So true! This would be the essence, I think of therapeutic use of self, an art and I science, I believe #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:14:43 +0100)
@nursefriendly @kirstyes Often, we are given “tasks” documentation, assessment, teaching with little time left for actual time spent with #patients #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:15:23 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 Great. So art of practice could be seen as approp creative app of scientific study alongside other insights? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:15:50 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes I understand this statement, but believe that the artistry of the caring relationship is a balm for dehumanizing #science #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:16:03 +0100)
@Helen_otuk like this more MT @allisulli : Devereaux stated that the caring relationship is the art, rather than the science of health care #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:16:27 +0100)
@nursefriendly @allisulli The “art” is treating the patient as more than just a “knee replacement” or “back injury” or “gait dysfunction” #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:16:32 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes @allisulli i like to think that healthcare professionals treating me know their “science”! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:16:39 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 @clissa89 Would you say you utilise science in your area? And @nursefriendly – does this echo nursing science and pract? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:17:16 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes yes I think that’s a good way of putting it. Science and art both needed definitely #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:17:17 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli do they have to be mutually exclusive? #art #science #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:17:21 +0100)
@nursefriendly See them as a person, realize how your treatments will affect them holistically as a person, once they are home. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:17:36 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 @kirstyes Yes, but if that “science-tist” has no bedside manner, treats you as your disease, how does that make you feel? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:18:35 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes absolutely! not medical-ey science but science re knowing what has been tried & tends to be effective – a starting point #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:18:37 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @lisa_d_ot totally agree. Plus I think OS in particular has strong focus on qual methods which helps with artistic app?! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:18:45 +0100)
@nursefriendly The science is always there behind nursing practice, theory. It is the cold, analytical part of the job, allows objectivity. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:18:55 +0100)
@Trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes @allisulli need to know the science but not apply in a blanket-coverage way…that’s where the art comes in? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:19:02 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 Not in my opinion, although the degree to which the science is diminishing the art is a scary trend #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:19:46 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli i agree the art is extremely important. but my doctor is skilled in his science and also in therapeutic use of self! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:20:03 +0100)
@kirstyes @nursefriendly #occhat Yes the fact that time spent with clients is not as valued is not good. Stats and being told you are too holistic?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:20:10 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes @clissa89 @nursefriendly I use research evidence to inform my practice, art to apply it, scientific methods to evaluate it #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:20:55 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @nursefriendly : See them as a person, realize how your treatments will affect them holistically as a person, once they are home. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:21:13 +0100)
@allisulli @Trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes Mosey 1984 described the “artful practitioner” as one who sees the individual as indivisible, complex #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:21:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk #occhat Sometimes it is the science we need / want. When very ill, did not care about ‘relationship’ with Dr, Just wanted to be made better!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:22:03 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @allisulli science more aligned with medical model? Although we need evidence, OT is creative too – art of problem solving w/ client #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:22:04 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @clissa89 Not good at all. I think both are equally as important. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:22:12 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 that appears to be an ever rarer breed of #doctor in this era of #efficiency #productivity , #documentation #occhat We need art!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:22:34 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli i agree, art is essential. and makes the science more effective – people will work with you if there’s relationship #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:23:02 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 @clissa89 @nursefriendly Great points. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:23:40 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk Yes, Helen, but sometimes we need empathy “I am not my disease” #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:23:48 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli and i also believe part of the art is explaining the science/rationale to clients (in an accessible way) #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:23:51 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @Trio33 : @kirstyes @clissa89 I use research evidence to inform my practice, art to apply it, scientific methods to evaluate it #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:24:12 +0100)
@clissa89 @helen_otuk @allisulli people wouldn’t use our services if we didnt have a science. and we wouldnt be commissioned #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:24:34 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @allisulli Perhaps we need the science to prove that the relationship is the important bit ;0) #occhat Research study anyone?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:24:47 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT yes. Devereaux stated that CARING is the ART that transforms the SCIENCE of occupation into a therapeutic practice #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:25:01 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes Taylor (2009?) says therapeutic use of self is the most important OT skill @allisulli #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:25:18 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 @helen_otuk of course. Scieince is essential- we break things down to understand them more clearly but #art re-integrates #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:26:41 +0100)
@allisulli RT @clissa89 : @kirstyes Taylor (2009?) says therapeutic use of self is the most important OT skill @allisulli #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:26:58 +0100)
@Helen_otuk ok switching to tweetchat keep missing the # off! DOH #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:27:16 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @allisulli But this sort of thing does seem to be ‘ignored’/ sidelined to some extent by those managing services. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:27:24 +0100)
@kirstyes RT? @allisulli : Science is essential- we break things down to understand them more clearly but #art re-integrates #occhat ? Like this more(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:28:40 +0100)
@allisulli @allisulli @clissa89 @helen_otuk #art of reintegration allows 4 more #complexity and variance and serves as antidote 2 reductionism #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:28:57 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk time is definitely an issue. thinking specifically of my placement in acute medical! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:29:52 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @clissa89 So what can we do to address the challenges to the #art of caring in healthcare? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:30:02 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Like this RT @allisulli : #art of reintegration allows 4 more #complexity and variance and serves as antidote 2 reductionism #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:30:17 +0100)
@Trio33 @Helen_otuk I do that – I’m glad to see someone else does 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:31:34 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @clissa89 definitely agree, cuts are meaning less time to spend building therapeutic relationship #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:31:49 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli @kirstyes it’s a difficult one. because much of it is a system issue, increasing pressures on services #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:31:50 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @allisulli antidote to reductionism yes but not all science reductionist. Take auto/biography conf I was at. Very Indiv #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:31:51 +0100)
@allisulli @allisulli @kirstyes @clissa89 Peloquin (1984) recommended reading relevant novels to encourage ethical reflection #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:21 +0100)
@nursefriendly @kirstyes 🙂 “What, you actually want to spend time with your #patient ?” What #healthcare world do you think you are in? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk #occhat I often think the #art of what I do is aligned to working as a weaver between the client and the funding bodies/panels etc #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:45 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli @kirstyes perhaps we have different definitions of “science”. my interpretation is evidence, theory, clinical reasoning #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:32:45 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @Lisa_D_OT : @clissa89 definitely agree, cuts are meaning less time to spend building therapeutic relationship #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:33:11 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @clissa89 Totally agree with this. Novels all the way. @Trio33 #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:33:27 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli i’m a huge fan of narrative inquiry – and more so of eliciting narratives from my clients!! @kirstyes #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:33:49 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @Helen_otuk #reading is fundamental to both the #art and #science of ethical, caring medical practice #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:34:11 +0100)
@Helen_otuk In that I need to utilise my ‘science’ / ‘evidence’ to achieve the client focussed outcomes. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:34:16 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @allisulli Good point. I think we are in effect all agreeing with the points but disagreeing over language. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:34:23 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @clissa89 : @allisulli i’m a huge fan of narrative inquiry – and more so of eliciting narratives from my clients!! @kirstyes #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:34:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree RT @clissa89 : perhaps we have different definitions of “science”. my interpretation is evidence, theory, clinical reasoning #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:34:56 +0100)
@allisulli RT @clissa89 : @allisulli i’m a huge fan of narrative inquiry – and more so of eliciting narratives from my clients!! @kirstyes #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:34:58 +0100)
@kirstyes @nursefriendly Education ;0) #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:35:00 +0100)
@allisulli Anyone want to recommend favorite novels that caused you to reflect on the caring nature of artful practice? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:36:09 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes @allisulli @clissa89 absolutely agree – novel, stories, creative writing #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:16 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli novels that have prompted me to reflect: Stuart: A Life Backwards, The Diving Bell & the Butterfly, Cries Unheard #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:37:50 +0100)
@allisulli @allisulli The standard for me is “The Miracle Worker”. Helen Keller and Annie Sullivan defined the therapeutic relationship #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:38:10 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time is one of my all-time favourites #autism #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:38:37 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli not read that one! but have seen a movie #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:39:02 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @clissa89 : @allisulli The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time is one of my all-time favourites #autism #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:39:40 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree… RT @clissa89 : The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time is one of my all-time favourites #autism #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:39:41 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli social media also opens up a huge wealth of resources to better understand experiences of ill-health/services #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:40:18 +0100)
@Trio33 I’m a Writing Practitioner not an OT. I use reflective writing a lot to reflect on practice and adapt models such as Johns model #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:41:09 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I have found many blogs that have made a BIG impact on me… #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:41:20 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 An “oldie but a goodie” -just like me! haha #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:41:21 +0100)
@Trio33 I also learn from the writing produced by patients in my writing groups #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:42:28 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 Yes, so many #blogs out there to helps us #understand our patients better! I love @amanda_stand ‘s “Beauty From Pain” #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:43:12 +0100)
@clissa89 @Helen_otuk yes agree!! @pd2ot ‘s blog has been influential. also reading @healingfrombpd ‘s open letter #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:43:23 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Trio33 : I also learn from the writing produced by patients in my writing groups #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:43:28 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @Helen_otuk Agree, always good to hear people’s experiences first hand – face to face or via blog #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:43:53 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @Lisa_D_OT : @Helen_otuk Agree, always good to hear people’s experiences first hand – face to face or via blog #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:43:59 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk I have really learned from @Beyond_Survivor ‘s #blog #abuse #mentalhealth #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:44:26 +0100)
@allisulli RT @clissa89 : @Helen_otuk yes agree!! @pd2ot ‘s blog has been influential. also reading @healingfrombpd ‘s open letter #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:44:43 +0100)
@clissa89 @Lisa_D_OT often clients seem stunned that i want to know about their experiences. but hearing helps me to help them better #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:44:47 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 @allisulli @clissa89 Now we’re speaking the same language ;0) #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:46:31 +0100)
@allisulli Mosey suggested that the #art of practice encourages therapists to learn about themselves, change themselves, understand themselves #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:46:35 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Thnaks folks some new blogs for me to check out there… #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:46:37 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Short Story The Yellow Wallpaper is my go to! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:47:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I recall some sketches that a local LD group put together. Very powerful from those who often have a small voice. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:47:46 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @clissa89 not a common experience to have staff ask about experiences! But really helps to understand the whole person #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:47:50 +0100)
@allisulli @allisulli Can anyone suggest ways we can learn more about ourselves in service to the #art of therapy? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:48:06 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 Do you belong to Lapidus? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:48:29 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes I will put it at the top of my summer reading list! Thanks for the tip #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:49:00 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @lisa_d_ot Not good that they feel stunned. Would be better to be bored of telling it. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:49:17 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Here you go. http://t.co/6D96c5yg #occhat
Should take about 10 -20 mins.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:50:16 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @allisulli As a novice, reflection really helps. On practice and on my own occupational experiences #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:50:27 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Helen_otuk : I recall some sketches that a local LD group put together. Very powerful from those who often have a small voice. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:50:28 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes yes and Lapidus Northwes too #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:50:42 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : @allisulli Here you go. http://t.co/6D96c5yg #occhat
Should take about 10 -20 mins.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:50:51 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Creative reflection. #occhat
The workshop I ran at #COT2012 on stories/poems as reflection went down well.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:51:22 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 I follow the Facebook group and joined. Notice there is no professional category anymore. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:52:07 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes looking forward to you #occhating that. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:52:34 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes I want to go to #COT2013 so much! #occhat Hang out with all you artful occupational scientists so I can learn more! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:53:05 +0100)
@BillWongOT Join you guys very late today. Just got done with placement. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:53:14 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT glad you could join us and hope you’ve had a good day at placement! #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:53:38 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes @allisulli Writing is gr8 tool for reflection alone or in group. I vary the methods I use to get different insights #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:53:44 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk Thought I was #occhat ting the paper. We did #OTalk creative reflection a while back I think but can do again if wanted.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:53:50 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Come along to the next @OSEurope occupational science conference. I’ll let you know when and where. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:54:34 +0100)
@allisulli Qualities of #Art of occupation: Complexity, patterns/metapatterns, process, shaping, variance, transicience. Science terms for #art #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:54:54 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes oh I get confused, maybe I missed it. Will check the blog.
#occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:55:16 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @OSEurope Where there’s a will, there’s a way! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:56:01 +0100)
@BillWongOT @beingyourdoing I think so- from both the client and therapist perspectives. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:56:01 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk Or was it just films? #occhat my memory is shocking.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:56:08 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing good question- not always, but who is the follower will depend on situation. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:57:02 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes did films… I think we are as bad as each other! No hope for either of us. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:57:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @oseurope I want in after I am done with OTD too. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:57:38 +0100)
@allisulli @allisulli More aspects of #art of occupation: meaning, motivation, violation, identification, appeal, flow, intactness, engagement #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:57:40 +0100)
@kirstyes Was hoping @claireOT would be looking at PIP for #OTalk but not heard back. @BillWongOT are you still on placement next week? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:57:59 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat . Relationship between art and science expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, captain)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:58:35 +0100)
@allisulli 2 minutes left in our #occhat today. Final thoughts? Is art an antidote or complement to the science of occupation. Final votes! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:58:59 +0100)
@Helen_otuk ok folks, 2minute warning! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:10 +0100)
@clissa89 @beingyourdoing haha i love the geekiness of that analogy!! 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:12 +0100)
@allisulli RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat . Relationship between art and science expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, captain)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:28 +0100)
@kirstyes How about we all write and share creative reflections for next #occhat – we can host on blog if people don’t have own for posting??(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:38 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 but I think eventually there will be a balance, at least from how I see it as a client. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:55 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant and client-centered therapists #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:59:56 +0100)
@allisulli @beingyourdoing Having just returned from San Diego during #Comicon , your analogy is well-taken! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:02 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat . Relationship between art and science expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, captain)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:03 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli I’d still go for complement or translator? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:14 +0100)
@allisulli RT @clissa89 : @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant and client-centered therapists #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:18 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 @beingyourdoing Yes. Lol. Good one. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:28 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @claireot two more weeks. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:46 +0100)
@Trio33 @allisulli I am a big fan of Flow #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:00:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @clissa89 : @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant and client-centered therapists #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:02 +0100)
@allisulli @BillWongOT @clissa89 I don’t think this is a guarantee in today’s reductionistic, medical model, efficeincy-driven system #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:02 +0100)
@beingyourdoing @allisulli #occhat comicon totally jealous.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:12 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli no it’s not a guarantee, it’s up to us! @BillWongOT #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:33 +0100)
@Helen_otuk BIG THANKS to @allisulli for tonight’s #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:36 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @allisulli so true. That is what I am going to preach for the course I will design for my OTD project. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:47 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes Enter the #Kawa analogy! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:01:52 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 @allisulli flow, mindfulness and presence. All good topics for consideration. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:02:03 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli yes thanks so much for hosting tonight’s #occhat ! i really need to catch up on those articles(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:02:09 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes good idea. I have a WordPress blog so I could post there? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:02:28 +0100)
@allisulli @beingyourdoing I was at a #yoga conference. Nexus of #yoga and #comicon was surreal. #Art #occupationaltherapy #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:02:41 +0100)
@clissa89 RT @kirstyes : @Trio33 @allisulli flow, mindfulness and presence. All good topics for consideration. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:02:44 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @clissa89 : @allisulli we need a balance of both to be effective, relevant and client-centered therapists #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:09 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 if it’s health and wellness, there will be a balance. But some settings like NICU, may not be as much. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:11 +0100)
@Trio33 @allisulli compliment #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:18 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Ooh is translator in the Kawa?! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:19 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes yes! still haven’t grasped the difference between flow, #mindfulness and presence but know there’s an OS article on topic #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:21 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 thanks, Clarissa for the great ideas. I enjoyed hosting and would be happy to help out again in the future. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:25 +0100)
@Trio33 @allisulli or complement even!! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:32 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : @Trio33 @allisulli flow, mindfulness and presence. All good topics for consideration. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:34 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I love a good bit of flow! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:03:37 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @allisulli I also think is up to the client, too. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:04:02 +0100)
@clissa89 @BillWongOT what’s that quote: “be the change you want to see in the world”? @allisulli #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:04:19 +0100)
@DebbiiHarrison RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat . Relationship between art and science expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, captain)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:04:55 +0100)
@Trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes I like all 3 but Flow best I think #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:05:01 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk that’s what a lot of our live chats are. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:05:04 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes If not, it should be. Is #Kawa model more about the #art or #science of occupation? Hmm… ah well food for thought #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:05:10 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Thanks to @allisulli for hosting, & to everyone for great #occhat as always. I’m off to have some tea 🙂 see you next week! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:05:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @allisulli something to reflect on? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:06:12 +0100)
@clissa89 @Trio33 @kirstyes im partial to a bit of #mindfulness ! prefer that to the “oh where did the time go” feeling – tho pleasurable #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:06:28 +0100)
@allisulli Thanks to everyone for a rich conversation tonight regarding “Occupational Artistry ans antidote to Occupational Science”. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:06:28 +0100)
@kirstyes How about OT and public health for next week’s #OTalk ? Anyone fancy hosting? I’m happy to do creative #occhat week after?! If people happy(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:06:35 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @allisulli the very song that reminded me of this is Darlene Zschech’s change your world. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:06:35 +0100)
@Helen_otuk bye @lisa_d_OT . Chat soon #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:06:37 +0100)
@clissa89 @Lisa_D_OT great to have you here tonihgt, enjoy your tea! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:07:04 +0100)
@kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli Enjoy the tea? Accompanied by Superstar? #occhat
Great contributions as always.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:07:24 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli I would vote for compliment. The art and science of OT goes hand in hand. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:07:33 +0100)
@clissa89 If we have an #occhat about #mindfulness /flow/presence, I would like to invite the #BPDChat crew to join us! they know way more than me!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:07:38 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk exactly! I have much reflecting to do and hopefully, when I get the grabchat together, it will help others do the same:) #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:07:40 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli enjoy tea! #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:08:09 +0100)
@amanda_stand @clissa89 I meant to ask what is #occhat ? Thanks :)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:08:22 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 Cool. I still need to sort out all the suggestions into lists. Did you want to host that one the #occhat after next??(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:08:49 +0100)
@clissa89 @amanda_stand #occhat is a fortnightly tweetchat where we talk about the relationship between daily occupations & wellbeing… & stuff!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:09:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes sounds great and I will host #otalk on public health if you want.
#occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:09:37 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk Do you want a copy tonight or just wait until 24 hours is up and I’ll post on blog? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:09:39 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes yup… That is what i think OT students are working hard to be. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:10:06 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @clissa89 like the and ‘stuff’ #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:10:15 +0100)
@allisulli RT @clissa89 : If we have an #occhat about #mindfulness /flow/presence, I would like to invite the #BPDChat crew to join us! they know way more than me!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0100)
@clissa89 @kirstyes sure, can do! i think @ClaireOT and I came up with some #OTalk topics stemming from #BPDChat too – but forget what! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:10:28 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @trio33 @clissa89 @kirstyes and I know some aspects for me is harder than a lot of my #NT counterparts. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:10:56 +0100)
@amanda_stand RT @clissa89 : @amanda_stand #occhat is a fortnightly tweetchat where we talk about the relationship between daily occupations & wellbeing… & stuff!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:11:08 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @clissa89 Me too. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:11:36 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 Great idea, Clarissa! It would be wonderful to have a forum for #occhat or #otalk and #bpdchat @CarlDunnJr @amanda_stand (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:12:01 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot let me in on the times for the #BPDChat #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:12:49 +0100)
@allisulli @clissa89 @kirstyes @ClaireOT I have some ideas, too. Pushy American, you know, but I love that #BPDChat . Very helpful #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:01 +0100)
@kirstyes Everyone happy to write some creative reflections for two weeks time and post on own blog or let me post on #OTalk #Occhat one.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:24 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli it is, #BPDChat gives me so much to think about and reminds me to be more mindful and kind to myself too! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:46 +0100)
@kirstyes I can post up information I developed for workshop? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:13:54 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @allisulli all ideas welcome! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:14:00 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot haha! By the time I am done with my OTD, I will be a pushy Chinese… Lol! #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:14:02 +0100)
@allisulli RT @clissa89 : @allisulli it is, #BPDChat gives me so much to think about and reminds me to be more mindful and kind to myself too! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:14:32 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes yes please… I reflect but not sure how creative it is! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:14:38 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes what’s the reflection on? I missed it. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:14:43 +0100)
@allisulli @BillWongOT @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot Who knows, Bill, you may get there even sooner than you think! haha:) jk #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:15:36 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT Anything relevant. We discussed it as being a way to get the art into our practice. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:15:39 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @allisulli that’s my clinical instructor’s thing for me too- sometimes I beat myself up too much. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:15:40 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : @kirstyes yes please… I reflect but not sure how creative it is! #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:15:56 +0100)
@kirstyes @clissa89 Yup guess so. Day after sis birthday. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:16:14 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk Will sort that out then.
It was about using short story/poem forms. Just need to check happy with it as is. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:17:04 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 @kirstyes @claireot I just need to find the right balance- I got this from my mom. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:17:14 +0100)
@allisulli @BillWongOT @clissa89 One of my specialities, too, Bill. Need to remind myself often to focus on my strengths, too. #perfectionism #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:17:30 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes ok… You got it! #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:17:36 +0100)
@kirstyes @BillWongOT Great. Will post more details on blog/Facebook anyway. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:18:11 +0100)
@Ruben_sm86 Hi from Spain, I’m glad to see your chat, but in Spain we still need people know about what we do. A few people know what OC is #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:18:36 +0100)
@pd2ot aw thank you! ? @clissa89 : @Helen_otuk yes agree!! @pd2ot ‘s blog has been influential. also reading @healingfrombpd ‘s open letter #occhat ?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:18:43 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @clissa89 that’s why research is better for me. 🙂 #Occhat got to play to my strengths for my #OT career(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:19:01 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes where on facebook? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:19:52 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Ruben_sm86 you going to WFOT in 2014? #Occhat maybe you can gather some ideas there.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:20:06 +0100)
@allisulli #occhat @kirstyes @BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @clissa89 @claireOT @gilliancrossley can someone email a template for the grab chat to me?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:20:17 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Well i am off to make coffee, ay catch you all later. Thanks for a great chat folks. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:20:30 +0100)
@clissa89 @Helen_otuk great to have you here! glad you have interweb again! enjoy your coffee #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:20:54 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 If you look at @OTalk_Occhat profile. Facebook and blog info on their. Anything posted by us tweets from there too. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:21:33 +0100)
@Trio33 @Helen_otuk bye Helen #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:21:38 +0100)
@Ruben_sm86 @BillWongOT Where is going to be the WFOT in 2014? We have Ideas, but we haven’t speaker #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:21:55 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Ruben_sm86 it’s in Japan. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:22:31 +0100)
@allisulli Goodnight #occhat tweeps! I’m going for a swim- it is 100degrees Farenheit here today. Thanks for all the great ideas and dialogue!(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:22:46 +0100)
@Ruben_sm86 @BillWongOT a little bit far… I will try! 🙂 where are all of you from? #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:23:40 +0100)
@clissa89 @allisulli enjoy your swim!! i love a cool swim on a hot day! 🙂 thanks again for hosting #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:23:43 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk @clissa89 @claireot @gilliancrossley have to go home to see if I can contribute more. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:26:51 +0100)
@Trio33 @kirstyes @OTalk_Occhat thanks #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:27:36 +0100)
@clissa89 @Trio33 great to have you here at #occhat tonight. i’ve not been for a while: is this your first one?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:38:26 +0100)
@DebbiiHarrison @BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk @clissa89 @claireot @gilliancrossley Sorry I missed you guys tonight it’s been hectic #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:47:21 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life #Occhat OT has gr8 scientific and art quals. But it makes me wonder how diff settings effect this with mindless set assess+interventions?(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:49:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT @DebbiiHarrison @kirstyes @allisulli @helen_otuk @clissa89 @claireot @gilliancrossley u still can contribute for another 24 hours. #Occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:07:46 +0100)
@jenfurmckinky RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat . Relationship between art and science expressed well by Star Trek. Spock (science, 1st officer) Kirk (art, captain)(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 22:12:00 +0100)
@BusyOT @kirstyes thank you! Hope you had a good #occhat tonight.(Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:04:26 +0100)
@ColleenRNCoach RT @nursefriendly : Thanks, using the “art of nursing” as an example, we rarely get to focus on those basics that make it an art. #occhat (Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:25:29 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli In certain settings, definitely. We can be limited by boundaries such as time, what’s available to us, etc. #Occhat (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:04:23 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli so true. For ex. I am a low context person. The OT must be willing to get down to business with me. (1/2) #Occhat (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:05:36 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli For a high context person, however, small talk can be helpful to “warm up” the client for therapy. #occhat (2/2)(Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:06:19 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @Lisa_D_OT very true. #occhat (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:06:51 +0100)
@BillWongOT @clissa89 @kirstyes @allisulli Not always. My OT in LRD had to understand me in how my AS present in myself, too. #Occhat (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:10:00 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @clissa89 I can host after I am done with my placement, too. Participating in #occhat & #otalk count in my OTD residency req.(Wed, 18 Jul 2012 02:12:56 +0100)
@CarlDunnJr RT @clissa89 : @allisulli it is, #BPDChat gives me so much to think about and reminds me to be more mindful and kind to myself too! #occhat (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:46:09 +0100)
@BPDFFS RT @clissa89 : @allisulli it is, #BPDChat gives me so much to think about and reminds me to be more mindful and kind to myself too! #occhat (Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:55:55 +0100)

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#OTalk 24/04/12 – Seven day working in Occupational Therapy Practice

#OTalk 24/04/12 – Seven day working in Occupational Therapy Practice  

Facilitator and summary author: @lottie01

Participants: @lisa_d_ot @allisulli  @claireOT @kirstyes @gilliancrossley @billwongOT @fullyoccupied @lauraanstess @31katie07 @Linda_Goddard  @TherapyInPraxis

Recently there has been an increasing discussion regarding changing practices within the NHS for a variety of reasons. One such change beginning to emerge is that of seven-day working for services including that of therapies. There has been an increasing amount of evidence to suggest that a lack of service coverage within the NHS can result in delays and a less favourable outcome for our patients. A recent document produced by NHS improvement (linked below) highlighted that by therapy services introducing seven-day working practices, patients had a reduced length of stay; enhanced recovery and a continuity of care.

I (Lottie01) chose seven-day working as a topic, in part due to the above but more over because it is a topic that I am passionate about and one which is essential to consider if we view our core beliefs as occupational therapists. Below is the summary of this #OTalk.

Reason for selecting seven day working as the topic.

@lottie01
  • @kirstyes  I feel passionate about 7-day working for a few reasons, firstly being that occupations are not restricted to 5/days a week #OTalk

and also from a physical practice POV if people can be discharged at weekends what reason should we not be working #OTalk

  • I think in view of the discharge aspect – it would reduce delays #OTalk

 

Our experiences of seven day working and the practicalities of implementation

@kirstyes
  • I haven’t but it was only just coming in when I moved to the uni. I often/sometimes work 7 days in academia ;0) #Otalk
@kirstyes
  • @Lisa_D_OT @lottie01 I think we should reiterate that 7 day working doesn’t mean you don’t actually get a day off ;0) #Otalk
@Lisa_D_OT
  • @kirstyes Lol, working 7 days a week would be a bit too much dedication! No occupational balance there 🙂 #otalk
@lottie01
  • My current work doesn’t have 7-day OT but in 2 placements one offered a 7-day service in A&E only and the other extended this to AAU #Otalk
@Lisa_D_OT
  • No experience of 7 day working on my placements so far but have done this in other healthcare jobs #Otalk
@kirstyes
  • @Lisa_D_OT Have you had any experience of non Mon-Fri 9-5 placements?
@Lisa_D_OT
  • @kirstyes Yes, on one of my placements in A&E I did 8am-8.30pm shifts. Incredibly tiring! #Otalk
@kirstyes
  • @Lisa_D_OT Crikey 8-8.30 is a long shift. What breaks did you get #Otalk not sure no of hours is necessary. Need to look at approp[riate] staffing
@Lisa_D_OT
  • @kirstyes two 30 minute breaks. My educator was the only OT in a team of nurses, so she did those hours to fit with nursing shifts #otalk
@lottie01
  • I think working all those hours would be excessive, and I don’t see the need to tie your hours with nursing staff 2/2 #OTalk
@lottie01
  • … feel there would be benefit on flexi working hours for Ots (mostly as I find myself needed longer on certain days than others) to meet client need #Otalk
@kirstyes
  • @lottie01 Flexi time important. Prevents us always having to clock watch. But obv many OTs have family commitments that need managing #OTalk
@lauraanstess
  • Personally I think as nice as it may be to work mon to fri, 7 day services are inevitable #OTalk
@kirstyes
  • @lauraanstess Agree think there is a need to recognise all H&SC professions are tiring and needs to be balance for staff as well. #OTalk
  • @lauraanstess: However I also think that it’s benefits are dependant on the type of service #OTalk” Can you expand/give example.
@lottie01
  • i agree but can see the probs such as the practical elements of how it would work, would we be on-call & cover acute wards (physical) or work 5 days across 7 and choose to take 2/7 off a week. #OTalk
  • @allisulli i can see where the issues would be in terms of its quite nice to work mon-fri 9-5 with w/end off @OTalk_Occhat @claireOT #OTalk
  • I can see the drawbacks in 7-day working and it may not be suitable for all environments but I feel the benefits outway the cons #OTalk

 

The benefits and drawbacks of seven day working.

@kirstyes
  • My sis works in LD as an OT. She would often do early or late bathing assessments to fit in with routine #OTalk
@Lisa_D_OT
  • Agree that OTs should work to fit in with client’s needs – if 7 day working is required staff should be prepared to do it
@lottie01
  •  I would have thought flexi-working would aid this as in my view they could leave a bit earlier/later is need be #OTalk
@allisulli
  • I believe that it fits in with client-centered care at the heart of #occupationaltherapy practice #OTalk
@kirstyes
  • @allisulli Agree with that. But do you think clients might want weekend off therapy ;0! #OTalk
@kirstyes
  • @lottie01 @lisa_d_ot I think main reason is that occupations don’t stop. It’s how we structure whole days. #OTalk
@kirstyes
  • Do you think we could use driver for 7 day working to be even more occupation focussed and deal more with leisure occs? #OTalk
  • Or would that still not be seen as important in some care contexts? just about speedier discharge from hosp and service? #OTalk
@lottie01
  • @kirstyes It would give more time – especially in long-term environments but it may mean that more people have their needs addressed #OTalk
@allisulli
  • @lottie01 @kirstyes @lisa_d_ot short length of stay would make 7 day working even more crucial for habituation of new routines #OTalk
@allisulli
  • @kirstyes @lottie01 improved outcomes for adults with #developmentaldisabilities for 7 day working for sure #OTalk
@lottie01
  • @kirstyes and in the scheme of things – from a philosophical view: promote independence and from budget point: reduce long-term costs #OTalk
@allisulli
  • @lottie01 @kirstyes also important re #mentalhealth self-determination, right to choose when to participate in #occupationaltherapy #OTalk
@lottie01
  • @allisulli @kirstyes and its important to be aware that mental health and physical health despite seperate settings are intertwined #OTalk
@kirstyes
  • @HandyOTJO said reduced length of stay would be driver in acute services #OTalk
  • @allisulli @lottie01 More freedom & op to choose priorities would be good. Would work well with CMOP-E and COPM. Shift service focus #OTalk
@BillwongOT
  • @Lisa_D_OT @lottie01 there is a balance, though. We got to take care of our needs to some extent. We aren’t machines. #OTalk
  •  …think that can cut into our meaningful occupations on weekends- such as church. #OTalk
  • @kirstyes @lottie01 in US we have per diem, which is sort of like flex hours in a sense. #OTalk
  • RT @kirstyes: @Lisa_D_OT Good point we shouldn’t expect clients to always have to work to our uncompromising schedule/cancel things #OTalk

 

Environments and settings best suited to seven day working

@kirstyes
  • @lottie01 School based OT ;0) #OTalk Unless they did ‘homework at the weekends
@31katie07
  • In the MH setting I work in I feel 5day week is best. It’s a typical working week and provides routine and normality. #OTalk
@BillWongOT
  • Acute care, rehab, mental health could be great for 7 day work weeks. #OTalk
  • … school based is one that stands out that is not. Kids may not want more school. #OTalk
@kirstyes
  • Wow @xJessicaKate18x says we should all be doing 7 day weeks. You are 16% more likely to die if admitted on a Sunday #OTalk

 

Useful Linked Resource:
http://claireot.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/ahpnorth-conference-just-do-it/
http://www.improvement.nhs.uk/documents/SevenDayWorking.pdf

Full Transcript Available At: http://hashtags.symplur.com/healthcare-hashtag-transcript.php?hashtag=OTalk&fdate=04-17-2012&shour=0&smin=0&tdate=04-18-2012&thour=0&tmin=0&ssec=00&tsec=00&img=1

Confidentiality in Blogging 10th July 2012

Involved …

@otnotes @Helen_otuk @gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied @nursefriendly @allisulli @Th00ha @BillWongOT @wordsandbirds @merrolee @Lisa_D_OT @pd2ot @charl885 @ChrisAlterio @rebelraising @helenwebsden @everydaytherapy @tOTal_ability

Top resources …

http://t.co/w93gX4Fx

Related tags …

#privacy #blog #ethics #otuesday #hipaa

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@gilliancrossley Hey #OTalk .. looking forward to tonights talk! : )(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:00:42 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Good evening all….
#otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:01:09 +0100)
@Th00ha #OTalk morning from Sydney.(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:01:25 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Th00ha good morning… #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:01:59 +0100)
@pd2ot @gilliancrossley #OTalk Evening! @Helen_otuk @Th00ha Morning!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:03:11 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Are we ready for a lively discussion about confidentiality etc in blogging? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:04:05 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #OTalk hey good morning @Th00ha ! And good evening too :)(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:04:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I am not very organised this evening… only got broadband back less than 1hr ago! Thought i may have been joining in from mobile! #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:05:38 +0100)
@otnotes So last time we chatted re: using blogs as CPD. that led to discussion of 2 pronged privacy concerns in blogs: 4 clients and 4 self #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:06:42 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #OTalk I really enjoyed reading your reflections in your blog post the last discussion we had in this subject @gilliancrossley (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:07:40 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Hi all, will drop in to tonights chat but got lots of uni work to do 😦 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:07:47 +0100)
@everydaytherapy @gilliancrossley hey #OTalk iPhone being commandeered for power ranger shopping by boychild; I’ll be back soon I hope! Poorer, but back !(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:08:48 +0100)
@merrolee #OTalk finally made one. Hi all(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:09:09 +0100)
@Helen_otuk So who blogs about clients? or case studies etc?
#otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:09:13 +0100)
@gilliancrossley Whose story is it to tell?Is making details anonymous enough if a client/colleague can recognise themselves? #otalk (notes from event)(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:09:28 +0100)
@Th00ha @otnotes I missed that, but I was thinking where you live can hv impact on privacy etc. Eg, small community. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:09:45 +0100)
@gilliancrossley What should be kept private and what is OK for public blogging? #otalk (notes from event)(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:09:49 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @fullyOccupied @merrolee Good evening / morning… hi all. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:10:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @everydaytherapy ha ha! see you when your power ranger supply has been replenished : ) #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:10:48 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied #otalk glad you like it! last talk really got me thinking!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:11:22 +0100)
@otnotes @gilliancrossley I also found the question of “whose story is it” to be interesting. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:11:47 +0100)
@Helen_otuk ok where should we start? Who’s story is it could be a good place? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:12:35 +0100)
@otnotes So is it ever OK to use a realistic case study on your blog? If NOT, what changes need to be made for IRL discussions in classes? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:13:20 +0100)
@nursefriendly RT @BAOTCOT : Now! #OTuesday RT @OTalk_Occhat : Tonight – Privacy/Confidentiality and Blogging/CPD. http://t.co/w93gX4Fx #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:13:36 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @otnotes #otalk I’ve been thinking about that a lot! wondering if its from our perspective is that ok?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:14:09 +0100)
@fullyOccupied @gilliancrossley #OTalk was really impressive that u spent more time thinking &described the issues well 🙂 has it had any lasting thoughts?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:14:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Have people discussed this with individuals before blogging? Shared the story? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:14:42 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied #otalk yes! I have been considering all these things in more than just blogging! when giving examples case studies etc..(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:15:41 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @fullyOccupied : @gilliancrossley #OTalk was really impressive that u spent more time thinking &described the issues well 🙂 has it had any lasting thoughts?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:15:51 +0100)
@otnotes @gilliancrossley I think that in healthcare, cases are essential to education. But you should still maintain essential privacy #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:16:20 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley @otnotes the clients’ story written from your perspective? I don’t think we can separate the 2 in this case. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:16:44 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #otalk just thinking blogs, or other times we use a persons experience – for learning, sharing, publicity materials, interviews, job apps??(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:16:56 +0100)
@Th00ha @Helen_otuk like getting consent to tell their story? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:17:38 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @fullyOccupied Do we need to have a different approach in different circumstances? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:17:58 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied #otalk I wrote a blog about my Dad all this was something I considered in detail. I wouldn’t have written without consent.1/2(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:20 +0100)
@otnotes @Th00ha I talk more about my experience within their story, fxn of OT, not a description of their life #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:22 +0100)
@nursefriendly @Theresabrown NYT blogger weighed in on this, #HIPAA compliance not too difficult MT @Helen_otuk : So who blogs about clients? or #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:25 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Th00ha yes, or joint authoring? Getting approval before sharing? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:29 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #otalk we used persons story bout their occ therapy experience -but the therapist showed them the piece, then invites them 2 write their own(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:53 +0100)
@otnotes @fullyOccupied so true, you are often called to give examples in job interviews. I think they get permission for publicity stuff tho #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:18:57 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied #otalk because even though I didn’t give his details he would be identifiable. and I only told my perspective ” my story”(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:19:27 +0100)
@nursefriendly @Helen_otuk She discusses her #patients in her blogs, in her books frequently. Changes details, no harm, no foul #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:19:39 +0100)
@Th00ha @fullyOccupied @otnotes I did prac in a rural town & this did happen at a case study. #otalk got me really thinking abt confidentiality.(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:19:45 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #otalk they did and gave written permission re what it would be used for & they were v keen to control who saw/heard it, when and why.(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:19:52 +0100)
@fullyOccupied RT @otnotes : @Th00ha I talk more about my experience within their story, fxn of OT, not a description of their life #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:20:29 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @fullyOccupied : #otalk they did and gave written permission re what it would be used for & they were v keen to control who saw/heard it, when and why.(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:20:43 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Th00ha @otnotes #otalk no, I mean ensuring you are writing “your” story so your part or perspective. not writing the other persons story(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:20:46 +0100)
@fullyOccupied ? @Helen_otuk : @Th00ha yes, or joint authoring? Getting approval before sharing? #otalk ? absolutely!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:21:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @OTAshbert hello it is #otalk tonight great to have you with us(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:21:36 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley @otnotes Yeap ok, I get you. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:21:43 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @otnotes #otalk yes I agree we need case studies. if client can identify them selves in these should we ask permission before publish?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:21:45 +0100)
@otnotes to some degree, the idea of giving someone a waiver to sign for you to use the case is intimidating to both, IMO. 1/2 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:21:53 +0100)
@nursefriendly RT @gilliancrossley : Whose story is it to tell?Is making details anonymous enough if a client/colleague can recognise themselves? #otalk (notes from event)(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:21:55 +0100)
@pd2ot Apologies #OTalk ers. I’m sloping off early as too tired to concentrate/follow. I shall read it all back tomorrow!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:22:54 +0100)
@nursefriendly @gilliancrossley Stories are everyones to tell that have experienced them, long as you respect #privacy #HIPAA & Good Taste 🙂 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:23:01 +0100)
@otnotes 2/2 obviously you’d get the written permission for a larger publication, but 4something that is ‘off the cuff’ I doubt it hpns much #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:24:00 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied #otalk I like that! If we are writing a case study client should be able to see! as they could see notes if they wanted!!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:24:14 +0100)
@nursefriendly @otnotes I’ve been blogging, reviewing #malpractice #nursing case studies for some time using actual court cases. No restrictions #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:24:43 +0100)
@wordsandbirds @nursefriendly @gilliancrossley agreed. especially as a means for sharing positive experiences #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:25:18 +0100)
@nursefriendly @otnotes Once the court cases are completed, matters are made public record, they are fair game for discussion #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:25:26 +0100)
@Th00ha @otnotes yeah, wondering how realistic it is to getting consent and all formalities? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:25:46 +0100)
@otnotes @ChrisAlterio uses cases but it’s a conglomeration of ppl and decades after the fact. Us newbies don’t have that option tho #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:25:54 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @otnotes just because it my not happen does not it should not? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:26:04 +0100)
@nursefriendly Be back in a few . . #otalk #hachat (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:26:18 +0100)
@otnotes @nursefriendly I hope never to have a lot of info on OT malpractice! hopefully we can avoid that! 🙂 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:26:24 +0100)
@wordsandbirds what about those who lack capacity or communication skills? is it exploiting their experiences? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:26:27 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied Yes consent crucial! I wouldn’t have posted it if he hadn’t wanted me too! #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:26:50 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk @Th00ha it would require a major commitment from your employer too, they would have to OK a waiver, might imply liability #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:27:25 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @nursefriendly yes legal issues that are already in the public domain are different. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:27:32 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @nursefriendly #otalk my concern re telling other peoples story is the impact it can have on them and what if we get it wrong..(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:27:58 +0100)
@Th00ha @wordsandbirds depends on how much info you’re giving out perhaps. Or talk to carers. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:27:59 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @otnotes there already is a fair amount of that available… HPC website in UK. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:28:19 +0100)
@gilliancrossley RT @fullyOccupied : ? @Helen_otuk : @Th00ha yes, or joint authoring? Getting approval before sharing? #otalk ? absolutely!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:28:55 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk usually in US u just get a name of ppl in disputes with license board, whether they were punished in some way. min deets #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:29:41 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Th00ha can carers give consent on behalf of the cared for to have information made public? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:30:19 +0100)
@otnotes @gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied @Helen_otuk @Th00ha joint authorship more realistic in outpt/long term visiting sessions than acute #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:30:52 +0100)
@fullyOccupied @wordsandbirds #OTalk it’s interesting isn’t it? heard carer on radio a couple of evenings ago describing intimate details of relatives 1/2(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:31:19 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk I would think that reasonable for cases where they usually give consent for medical or other decisions. e.g. parent/child #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:31:44 +0100)
@Helen_otuk maybe a need for different approaches? RT @otnotes : joint authorship more realistic in outpt/long term visiting sessions than acute #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:32:06 +0100)
@tOTal_ability . @Helen_otuk @otnotes would love to compare other countries’ OT privacy regs #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:32:16 +0100)
@merrolee #OTalk hmm blogging is like talking on bus. Wld u ask clt permission 2 do that?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:32:26 +0100)
@fullyOccupied @wordsandbirds #OTalk needs & care – father had multiple disabilities &dementia; felt wrong 2 hear things he may have considered undignified(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:32:58 +0100)
@Th00ha @Helen_otuk not sure, but I assume the carers will hv the clients’ best interest. Would it be similar to making medical decisions? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:33:09 +0100)
@otnotes @merrolee ppl prob wouldn’t ask, but better keep it very vague- who knows who will hear you! good analogy #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:33:32 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @otnotes is that the same? medical etc decision are generally made in the best interests? Is being blogged about? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:33:45 +0100)
@charl885 @Helen_otuk @Th00ha depends on capacity to make the decision first off surely? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:35:09 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #OTalk do we think issues of privacy and dignity r equally at issue here as is confidentiality? Subtly different, but right 2 private life?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:35:11 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk depends on the case, I guess. #of caregiver blogs outnumbers healthcare pro blogs, I’m sure 1/2 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:35:21 +0100)
@charl885 @Helen_otuk @Th00ha oh ha ha hadn’t seen previous tweet! #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:35:41 +0100)
@Th00ha @Helen_otuk @otnotes maybe not directly to client’s best interest, but carers can check no harm is done? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:35:47 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @fullyOccupied @wordsandbirds #otalk . interesting that sometimes family think its OK to disclose the personal info of others without consent(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:36:05 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk and the caregiver blogs more often are like what @fullyOccupied is discussing- less respectful #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:36:13 +0100)
@otnotes @Th00ha yes, and many give consent in teaching hosp for learning experiences, so that might be a place to approach consent #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:37:11 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @fullyOccupied : #OTalk do we think issues of privacy &dignity r equally at issue here as is confidentiality? right 2 private life? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:37:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Are professionals held to a different standard than family? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:37:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @otnotes @Helen_otuk is that because caregivers don’t have to abide my ethics etc so easier to write blogs? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:37:48 +0100)
@otnotes @fullyOccupied does anyone have a private life anymore? I can take and post pics of ne1 now with smartphone, post about companies etc #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:38:28 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @gilliancrossley : my concern re telling other peoples story is the impact it can have on them and what if we get it wrong.. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:38:42 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @merrolee #otalk ! interesting! I guess only write/ say what you are willing for everyone to read/ hear…(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:39:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Just because we can do something does that mean we should? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:39:38 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk yes, which is fine b/c a client is in a position of vulnerability in healthcare world. W/ fam, I guess it’s every1 4 self #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:39:57 +0100)
@otnotes essential!RT @gilliancrossley : @merrolee interesting! I guess only write/ say what you are willing for everyone to read/ hear… #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:40:20 +0100)
@fullyOccupied ? @otnotes :does anyone have a private life anymore? I can take & post pics of ne1 now with smartphone, post about companies etc #otalk ? gd Q!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:41:04 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley @merrolee transfer workplace privacy rules onto blogging and talking on the bus. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:41:27 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @ShawnHuecker #otalk I agreed consent to use for a case study! that way they can keep some control of their story(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:41:34 +0100)
@otnotes @fullyOccupied also interesting, devil’s adv POV: what re the case of family blogger who unfairly portrays their provider/no consent? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:42:09 +0100)
@fullyOccupied RT @gilliancrossley : @merrolee #otalk ! interesting! I guess only write/ say what you are willing for everyone to read/ hear…(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:42:16 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @otnotes @fullyOccupied #otalk we live in a worl where privacy is restricted! potential to keep some control though…(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:43:05 +0100)
@fullyOccupied ? @gilliancrossley : @ShawnHuecker #otalk I agreed consent to use for a case study! that way they can keep some control of their story? :)(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:43:33 +0100)
@otnotes Privacy from another angle: are any other bloggers cautious of being more identified, or is it just my neuroticism? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:43:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Maybe not just about what is legal? But what standards should we aim for? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:44:35 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk Journal of Internet Medical Research (free online) has tried to put info on this topic out, policies to strive 4 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:45:38 +0100)
@fullyOccupied @otnotes #OTalk though there is right to reply … I think we have to demonstrate higher level of respect for privacy because it is our 1/2(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:45:51 +0100)
@merrolee #otalk sorry have to go. Also must gt tweet deck or similar on tablet. 4 got how clunky twitter is. Happy chatting(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:46:02 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @merrolee take care #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:46:54 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @otnotes thanks will look that out. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:47:15 +0100)
@fullyOccupied @otnotes #OTalk role that has given us privilege &more intimate knowledge than otherwise would b case; person is vulnerable in that rel’ship(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:47:49 +0100)
@otnotes @fullyOccupied I agree that it is the vulnerability of the client that makes us need a higher standard #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:48:57 +0100)
@Th00ha RT @otnotes : @fullyOccupied I agree that it is the vulnerability of the client that makes us need a higher standard #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:49:26 +0100)
@allisulli RT @otnotes : @fullyOccupied I agree that it is the vulnerability of the client that makes us need a higher standard #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:49:51 +0100)
@fullyOccupied ? @Helen_otuk : Maybe not just what is legal? But what standards should we aim for? #otalk ? well put! It’s ethical behaviour not obeying rules(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:49:57 +0100)
@Helen_otuk ok last 10 mins folks… top thoughts? Actions to take away? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:50:12 +0100)
@otnotes @Helen_otuk haha, I was going to say that 😉 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:50:44 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @otnotes #otalk I wonder why people blog secretly? why not take ownership of what you’re saying?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:50:49 +0100)
@fullyOccupied RT @gilliancrossley : @otnotes #otalk I wonder why people blog secretly? why not take ownership of what you’re saying?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:52:00 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @gilliancrossley now that is a whole other topic? Many reasons… and is anything secret? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:52:03 +0100)
@allisulli It’s easy for me to recall the discomfort I felt when a blogger shares TMI about a client. Ithink what if someone was talking abt me? #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:52:16 +0100)
@allisulli RT @gilliancrossley : @otnotes #otalk I wonder why people blog secretly? why not take ownership of what you’re saying?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:52:44 +0100)
@otnotes @gilliancrossley Obvs I’m not anon (which poses own risks) but I tried to keep surname, location, exact practice a lil covered #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:53:05 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @nursefriendly #otalk but what if they can identify themselves?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:53:29 +0100)
@otnotes Anon bloggers more likely 2 share too much I think, but I felt like I needed 2 keep some semblance of personal privacy when I started #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:54:18 +0100)
@allisulli @gilliancrossley @otnotes It is in these anonymous blogs that I have seen the most egregious ethical violations #Otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:54:19 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @otnotes #otalk yes personal privacy and safety is essential!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:54:39 +0100)
@otnotes @allisulli agree agree agree. could name half a dozen right now #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:55:04 +0100)
@helenwebsden Can anyone recommend a good cognitive assessment for #neuro patients? We use the LOTCA currently but not 100% happy with it… #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:55:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @OTAshbert @otnotes #otalk yes, I suppose it depends on what they’re saying. if not mentioning others then maybe anon is OK?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:55:31 +0100)
@otnotes @gilliancrossley would a client (even if never used on blog) be hesitant to be seen by “blogger OT”? I think so, possibly #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:55:50 +0100)
@nursefriendly If you’ve been careful, they should not be able to. RT @gilliancrossley : @nursefriendly #otalk but what if they can identify themselves?(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:55:53 +0100)
@fullyOccupied @OTAshbert : @otnotes & clients can b vulnerable in non-obvious ways -may need confidentiality in aspects not immediately obvious. #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:56:48 +0100)
@Helen_otuk last 4 mins… top tips? #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:57:09 +0100)
@otnotes I don’t think any blog really stays anon anyway. Either gets shut down (TMI violations) or blogger will open up in some way #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:57:22 +0100)
@Th00ha @gilliancrossley @OTAshbert @otnotes yeh I think anon is ok too. Just ensure other pples privacy as a health professional. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:58:24 +0100)
@allisulli @otnotes @gilliancrossley It may be an endorsement if it helps the therapists “expert” status, raises client esteem of their provider #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:58:28 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk Blog about someone else as if you were reading or writing about yourself #OTalk #compassion #privacy #ethics (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:59:35 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @allisulli @otnotes #otalk I don’t like it when people use the anon to say stuff they know they shouldn’t!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:59:49 +0100)
@allisulli RT @gilliancrossley : @allisulli @otnotes #otalk I don’t like it when people use the anon to say stuff they know they shouldn’t!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:00:04 +0100)
@nursefriendly @gilliancrossley A clever author will make takes steps to prevent that. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:00:13 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #otalk I guess remembering that blog is 4 life not just 4 Xmas..? ie what goes up there could be around a long time & b sure u r ok with it!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:00:30 +0100)
@otnotes @allisulli prob have to go even farther than that. RT Blog about someone else as if you were reading or writing about yourself #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:00:34 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @allisulli @otnotes #otalk client could read your blog and realise that you don’t breach trust on there! instead use for cpd etc..(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:00:58 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly that may affect the therapist, but it doesn’t do much to redress the loss of dignity to the subject of such a #blog #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:01:18 +0100)
@nursefriendly @gilliancrossley Nature of the beast, yet important (being anonymous) for whistleblowers, revealing situations that can get fired for #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:01:18 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @nursefriendly #otalk yes thats why its important to consider! not everyones a clever author or experienced blogger(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:01:43 +0100)
@allisulli RT @gilliancrossley : @allisulli @otnotes #otalk client could read your blog and realise that you don’t breach trust on there! instead use for cpd etc..(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:01:46 +0100)
@nursefriendly @gilliancrossley Many situations are brought to light, specifically because they can remain anonymous. It is prone to abuse, agreed. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:02:07 +0100)
@Helen_otuk ok folks… 9pm I have to dash for a little while… but do keep chatting i will be back later and will do grab chat tomorrow. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:02:15 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Thanks, as usual great discussion and lots to think about… #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:02:37 +0100)
@wordsandbirds RT @fullyOccupied : #otalk I guess remembering that blog is 4 life not just 4 Xmas..? ie what goes up there could be around a long time & b sure u r ok with it!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:02:49 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @gilliancrossley : @nursefriendly yes thats why its important to consider! not everyones a clever author or experienced blogger #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:03:18 +0100)
@allisulli @otnotes I am just going to follow your lead, along w the excellent examples I’ve from @gilliancrossley @kirstyes @BillWongOT ! #blog #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:03:24 +0100)
@nursefriendly @allisulli Can you give an example please? #blog #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:04:18 +0100)
@nursefriendly RT @gilliancrossley : @nursefriendly #otalk yes thats why its important to consider! not everyones a clever author or experienced blogger(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:04:57 +0100)
@allisulli Sorry I came in so late for #Otalk . Glad I got a nibble of such a meaty topic:) #privacy #ethics #blogging #leadership #Otalk #Otuesday (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:05:17 +0100)
@fullyOccupied #otalk thanks all – lots of food for thought -as ever!!!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:05:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley great #otalk ! lots more to think about! Good night tweeters : )(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:06:34 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly contact me on my email: allison.sullivan @ aic.edu. Don’t want to tweet specifics:) #blog #privacy #ethics #Otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:06:35 +0100)
@nursefriendly @gilliancrossley Lots of #blogs out there that don’t name names, yet give dates, times, situations – very risky. #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:06:46 +0100)
@nursefriendly @allisulli Can you give a hypothetical? #blog #privacy #ethics #Otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:07:10 +0100)
@otnotes @nursefriendly there was an ER doc who tweeted as leaving pt rooms and would write very condescending blog posts after. no respect1/2 #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:08:47 +0100)
@allisulli @nursefriendly Recently saw a blog by a nurse disgusted w the way a client smelled, how “stupid” client didn’t follow rx instructions #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:09:37 +0100)
@otnotes @nursefriendly 2/2 plus the times and descriptions of problems count as HIPAA identifiers. another doc lost job over bad blog choice #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:09:54 +0100)
@allisulli RT @fullyOccupied : #otalk thanks all – lots of food for thought -as ever!!!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:11:47 +0100)
@ChrisAlterio @otnotes #otalk sry I missed this chat. Narrative is license to express essential truth/maintain privacy at same time(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:26:03 +0100)
@ChrisAlterio @otnotes #otalk I would argue that you don’t need experience to express essential truth.. But for less skillful narrators like me it helps!(Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:29:40 +0100)
@otnotes @ChrisAlterio yes, you would have had great pts 2add. you’ll be glad2 know there is a high concern for privacy from the participants #otalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:33:31 +0100)
@nursefriendly @allisulli Unfortunate and unprofessional 😦 #OTalk (Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:14:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gilliancrossley @otnotes depends. I do own up to what I said in my blogs because it is my own experiences and analysis. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:11:53 +0100)
@BillWongOT @otnotes I am more cautious about possibly someone. So, I will just say “someone online said…” #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:13:05 +0100)
@BillWongOT @otnotes if I have to use what they posted online at conferences, I will just use the exact quote only. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:14:10 +0100)
@BillWongOT @otnotes @gilliancrossley I’m an exception here. I am not afraid of my OT see my blog, as it helped ME in becoming an autism expert. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:16:04 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gilliancrossley @allisulli @otnotes if I’m doing research, I definitely will not put what people said in my info gathering process. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:19:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @ChrisAlterio @otnotes I primarily use my experiences (directly or indirectly) for my blogs. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:21:25 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @nursefriendly agreed… Since the “damage” is permanent. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:22:59 +0100)
@BillWongOT @OTAshbert @gilliancrossley @otnotes if that’s the case, I would actually tell my clients that I am an OT blogger. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:26:30 +0100)
@BillWongOT @gilliancrossley if you are the client, you have full control. If others, better check with facility’s policies. #OTalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 00:27:43 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli interesting point. For me, I don’t mind as long as I am given a heads up. #otalk (Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:39:45 +0100)
@rebelraising Damnit I missed #OTalk on confidentiality/ ethics last night. Wanted to ask about my stand-up poetry career and OT!(Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:40:31 +0100)

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Please find attached the Salutogenesis Transcript from Healthcare Hashtags and below the ‘grabchat’. Summary to follow in a separate post.

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@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @allisulli @BillWongOT @cgenter @kirsi_hyvarinen @Lisa_D_OT @LeonoraOT @OTalk_Occhat @beingyourdoing @Th00ha @Trio33 @Symbolic_Life @gilliancrossley @pphealthcare @clissa89 @bobcollinsOT @Stalkerbird @BAOTCOT @uscosot @charl885

Top resources …

http://t.co/q2weD6qJ Slideshare Presentation – useful summary
http://t.co/dm60wH26 Salutogenesis definition (Health in the River of Life website)
http://t.co/uSNiXuDn JOS article that refers to Salutogenesis
http://t.co/8HxaGlsA Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 items
http://t.co/kR4MyyoX Health in the River of Life article list
http://t.co/u938Gwgg Facebook Page event listing
http://t.co/nruoTGob Wikipedia summary
http://t.co/DX9LwLwT Sense of Coherence Questionnaire 13 item
http://t.co/2V22S3SS Abstract of research ‘Optimism, self-efficacy and meaningfulness : towards a aalutogenic model of occupational wellbeing’

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#otuesday #otalk #health #ot #cheersyouwonderfulots

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@BAOTCOT #Occhat at 8pm discusses Salutogenesis, an approach focusing on factors that support health & well-being http://t.co/u938Gwgg #OTuesday (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:34:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @BAOTCOT : #Occhat at 8pm discusses Salutogenesis, an approach focusing on factors that support health & well-being http://t.co/u938Gwgg #OTuesday (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 18:42:01 +0100)
@gilliancrossley #occhat sorry I can’t join in tonights chat : (… I look forward to reading through the tweets..(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:13:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT Really wished I could’ve participated this wk’s #occhat live. Have read so much from autism support groups. Grr!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:28:28 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – just getting some resources ready for tonight.
http://t.co/nruoTGob
Basic Wikipedia Overview(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:45:05 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:45:26 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat http://t.co/dm60wH26
Website called Health in the river of life – KAWA links anyone??(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:45:57 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat Persson et al (1999) Journal of Occupational Science Article – http://t.co/uSNiXuDn (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:46:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @kirstyes : #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:47:23 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @kirstyes : #occhat Persson et al (1999) Journal of Occupational Science Article – http://t.co/uSNiXuDn (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:47:37 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat – just getting some resources ready for tonight.
http://t.co/nruoTGob
Basic Wikipedia Overview(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:14 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:17 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat http://t.co/dm60wH26
Website called Health in the river of life – KAWA links anyone??(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:21 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat Persson et al (1999) Journal of Occupational Science Article – http://t.co/uSNiXuDn (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:48:23 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – (From Perrson et al) – salutogenesis is a new perspective which
seeks the origins of health. Health is a continuum.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 19:54:15 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat Sense of Coherence Questionnaire – 13 point – http://t.co/DX9LwLwT (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:00:07 +0100)
@cgenter On the ball there @kirstyes with the resources. its only a recent idea for me but seems v relevant to OS #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:00:13 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 points – http://t.co/8HxaGlsA (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:13 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Good evening all #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:14 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat Sense of Coherence Questionnaire – 13 point – http://t.co/DX9LwLwT (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:38 +0100)
@OTalk_Occhat RT @kirstyes : #occhat – Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 points – http://t.co/8HxaGlsA (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:01:41 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Hi everyone, just having a read through some of the resources . . . #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:02:27 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 We’ll be talking about this for the next hour using #occhat (Occupational Science focused tweet chat). Please do join us.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:02:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk My @kirstyes you have been busy… #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:24 +0100)
@kirstyes Hi all at #occhat just wondering if people want to take a couple of minutes to have a look at the slideshare shared earlier?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:27 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen Good evening to all #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:40 +0100)
@Stalkerbird #occhat Hi all.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:03:57 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : #occhat
http://t.co/q2weD6qJ
Slideshare(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:04:10 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes thanks for the slide show on salutogenesis. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:04:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk only just though. Barely had chance to look myself. Sorry. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:06:00 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen It did’nt work out w/ iPad, I couldn’t opened it. Any ideas where’s the problem? @kirstyes #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:06:56 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : #occhat – Sense of Coherence questionnaire 29 points – http://t.co/8HxaGlsA (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:07:38 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen it opens on my iPad. #occhat took some time to load earlier. Maybe try opening in Safari.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:08:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk This is a ‘new’ concept well the word and this theory presented in this way… But I am loving it! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:08:56 +0100)
@allisulli #occhat Salutogenesis: discovering the causes of #health http://t.co/RXpBXV0d via @slideshare #Otuesday thanks to @kirstyes (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:09:01 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Why have I not come across this before??? I am thinking now! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:09:19 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Slide show is really interesting – we need to look for the causes of health, not focus on disease #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:09:43 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I have only looked briefly at some stuff to get a feel ready for this evening chat. But will definitely be exploring this further. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:10:40 +0100)
@kirstyes First thoughts? Very much links into public health agenda and like the idea of ‘causing health’. shows why ‘recovery’ more popular #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:10:49 +0100)
@allisulli Considering the causes of #health during #occhat today http://t.co/zwrSgFVP (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:11 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Similar to some of the stuff I’ve come across when looking at health promotion, e.g. upstream thinking #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I think this is what we as OT’s do look at… but I have never framed it in the way that salutogenesis does. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:36 +0100)
@cgenter wonder why its not popular or more well known in OT and OS? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:11:52 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat Love that of Comprehensibility, Manageability and Meaningfulness the latter is the most important for a Sense of Coherence.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:12:23 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @cgenter I am thinking this too… why have I not come across this before??? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:12:38 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @cgenter wonder why its not popular or more well known in OT and OS? – good question! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:06 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @kirstyes I don’t know where’s the problem, it didn’t work out w/ Safari either. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:35 +0100)
@kirstyes Huge thanks to @cgenter for bringing this word etc to our attention. #occhat Something all OS (and OTs) should be aware of.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:37 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : I think this is what we as OT’s do look at… but I have never framed it in the way that salutogenesis does. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:39 +0100)
@allisulli RT @cgenter : wonder why its not popular or more well known in OT and OS? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:13:46 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree RT @kirstyes : Love that of Comprehensibility, Manageability and Meaningfulness the latter is the most important for a S of C. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:14:05 +0100)
@cgenter @Lisa_D_OT Antonovsky did an article. Linking salutogenesis to HP #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:14:46 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen :0( hopefully you’ll pick up on main points from chat.Have a look at Wikipedia page instead (seems fairly accurate). #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:15:04 +0100)
@Helen_otuk I have definitely searched for resources on meaningfulness this has never turned up in my explorations so far… why? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:15:46 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen I heard it first time now. I don’t even know is it traslated into Finnish @cgenter #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:00 +0100)
@Helen_otuk RT @kirstyes : Huge thanks to @cgenter for bringing this word etc to our attention. Something all OS (and OTs) should be aware of. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:32 +0100)
@cgenter Comes from med soc. Think the scale has caused it to be unpopular, or that has been suggested to me #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:33 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirsi_hyvarinen : I heard it first time now. I don’t even know is it traslated into Finnish @cgenter #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:16:58 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @kirstyes Thanks anyway. I quickly read te Wikipedia page of it. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:17:16 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @cgenter really? do you have a reference for that? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:17:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter According to Google translate it’s the same word (no idea how accurate that is though). #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:18:09 +0100)
@kirstyes @cgenter What do you mean by the scale caused it to be unpopular? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:19:35 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Seems to fit well with OT philosophy – taking into account how effects of environment &what people do causes health #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:19:35 +0100)
@kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT Agree – looking at the questionnaire the manageability aspects would definitely be affected by the environmental context #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:20:34 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Was just looking for that…
RT @kirstyes : @cgenter What do you mean by the scale caused it to be unpopular? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:20:50 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes a discussion I had with supervisor who suggested it was moving away from original intention of model #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:21:16 +0100)
@kirstyes Also links to the idea of health literacy that @BillWongOT talks about. Something that def needs to be addressed in schools. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:21:24 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes think it fell out of fashion after he died too #occhat salutogenesis is Latin so same in all languages means origins of health(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:22:39 +0100)
@allisulli @cgenter @kirstyes is that due to concern that it would be unwieldly in regards to intervention, ala MOHO? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:24:31 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Well maybe we need to bring it back? More exploration required MT @cgenter : @kirstyes think it fell out of fashion after he died too #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:24:40 +0100)
@cgenter @Helen_otuk definitely, was exploring idea of doing abstract for next years conference #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:25:46 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree, on initial look the questionnaire does look tricky (only had quick look), but I like the continuum theory. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:26:08 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @cgenter Good question – I’m still confused about unpopularity – problems with application could cause that maybe? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:26:11 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Great idea! RT @cgenter : definitely, was exploring idea of doing abstract for next years conference #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:26:44 +0100)
@kirstyes But surely there is just as much work needed with pathogenesis – so many causes of disease – also many causes of health?? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:27:03 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes definitely agree re health literacy, need to empower people so they can make informed choices #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:04 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @BillWongOT needs to be addressed in mental health re lack of patient access. Most services still delivered inpatient only #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:09 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @cgenter Yup sounds great. Think we should raise in curriculum too maybe #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:10 +0100)
@cgenter @ @kirstyes @allisulli #occhat this is just the opinion of someone i have discussed it with, but there must be a reason it is not well known(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:14 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Could it be linked to ‘treatment’ theories? If we can frame the disease we can ‘cure’ it? Funding… drug companies etc
#occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:28:30 +0100)
@kirstyes Also see looking at questionnaires a number of different ways conditions can impact on the sense of coherence. Why meaning essential #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:29:36 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes @Helen_otuk #occhat I only have a superficial understanding of it, I need to look at it more, but articles seems hard to track(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:29:40 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen I did some google searches abt topic in Finnish. I can’t stop to think abt connection to psychology. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:30:21 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @cgenter Agree there must be a reason… more exploration required, it seems very ‘OT / OS’ so why not more widely known? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:30:51 +0100)
@cgenter @Helen_otuk #occhat that would make sense to me, but I think it promises alot potentially, a whole new way of considering health care(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:02 +0100)
@kirstyes What did you guys think about the website ‘Health in the river of life’? Very kawa esque. Anybody know if kawa book mentions Salut… #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:16 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes talked to cancer researcher last nite: quitting her job. frustrated that all research $$ pathogenic #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:31:49 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Reason it is not more widely known? Many of the refs seem very dated too? MT @cgenter : but articles seems hard to track #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:32:10 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes #occhat does sound like kawa, will check when i get home (still on train from @plymuni )!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:32:25 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk But more than ‘cure’ and disease based – more about the manageability and comprehendability aspects of living with #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:32:33 +0100)
@cgenter @Helen_otuk #occhat Yes i think since antonovsky died it has been neglected, my cynical side says there must be a reason(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:33:39 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Agree! RT @cgenter : Yes i think since antonovsky died it has been neglected, my cynical side says there must be a reason #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:34:33 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – Does anyone else think that Faith/spirituality may have a big impact here in terms of comprehensibility?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:35:16 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk @cgenter One probl’em w current evidence-based emphasis: throwing out the research baby w the bathwater:) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:35:34 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter I found phD study in psychiatry where this theory has been used as a frame of reference @helen_otuk #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:36:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Is that because people are still concerned with “simply” (knowing not simple) living rather than living (or dying well) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:36:49 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter @helen_otuk Can you share the link? #occhat (afterwards if easier) thanks.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:37:23 +0100)
@Helen_otuk The Folkh�lsan Research Centre have a lot of publications more recently. http://t.co/kR4MyyoX #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:38:09 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes definitely think there’s a link to spirituality – how you understand &make sense of life events, your beliefs &values #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:02 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes tx (chemo) is #cure focused. pts not offered diet counseling, therapeutic support for beginning an #exercise program, etc. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:24 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : The Folkh�lsan Research Centre have a lot of publications more recently. http://t.co/kR4MyyoX #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:39:37 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Oh there is a database! Getting excited now… need to calm down! Databases do please me. How sad. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:40:35 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen Only problem is that it’s written in Finnish but there’s English abstract: http://t.co/Gfqr3pq6 @kirstyes @cgenter @helen_otuk #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:40:39 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : Oh there is a database! Getting excited now… need to calm down! Databases do please me. How sad. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:41:24 +0100)
@bobcollinsOT #occhat following salut…conversation. Strong links to solution focus and strength based ways of mental health work(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:41:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter @helen_otuk Thanks #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:25 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @allisulli Seems like health’care is actually ‘disease’care? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:50 +0100)
@kirstyes @bobcollinsOT Definitely agree with this – but have you heard of this concept specifically before? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:42:59 +0100)
@allisulli @bobcollinsOT problem is USA is that #mh care is delivered mostly in in-patient treatment settings. Not salutogenic at all! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:43:40 +0100)
@kirstyes #occhat – would be interested if people could talk in their circles about this concept – see if anyone familiar with #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:43:50 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Lisa_D_OT : @allisulli Seems like health’care is actually ‘disease’care? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:43:56 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Lisa_D_OT : @kirstyes definitely agree re health literacy, need to empower people so they can make informed choices #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:44:22 +0100)
@Helen_otuk Oh look a book: ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Salutogenesis. Salutogenic pathways to health promotion.’ Love the title! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:44:34 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @Lisa_D_OT : @allisulli Seems like health’care is actually ‘disease’care? #occhat ? great point. But I think it & OT showing a shift.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:14 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT unfortunately, not even. Disease-treatment. Dis-ease management. Who cares? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:20 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : Oh look a book: ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Salutogenesis. Salutogenic pathways to health promotion.’ Love the title! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:34 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 We’re going now. 8-9 uk time. Follow #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:45:47 +0100)
@allisulli @Helen_otuk I know what I am going to be reading on my flight to San Diego next week:) I bet I will feel much better when done #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:46:23 +0100)
@kirstyes @DebbiiHarrison great point. This keeps coming up. Political awareness needed. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:46:36 +0100)
@kirstyes RT ? @allisulli : I am also wondering if a prevention/promotion of health can truly most effectively address #crisis in the moment?? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:47:35 +0100)
@cgenter @kirsi_hyvarinen @helen_otuk #occhat is that the steyn optimism one from 2011?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:48:16 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Very possibly not. Both aspects needed. But health promotion as prevention and necessary post interventions. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:48:25 +0100)
@kirstyes @bobcollinsOT We get very excited don’t we when something ‘outside’ speaks to what we do. #occhat ;0)(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:49:13 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes now for economics. Who benefits from fewer consumers of medical care? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:50:30 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 how would you say this fits with what you do? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:50:47 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen In Finland problem is that it’s difficult to get money for health promotion ’cause disease care costs so much @Lisa_D_OT @allisulli #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:50:56 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter no, it was from Finland 2005. Tweeted the link before @helen_otuk #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:52:52 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat hi all. Apols for late check-in. Salutogenesis – love it!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:53:00 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Interesting point. But I do think there is a gradual recognition that a wider perspective needed #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:04 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat I have anxiety depression and alcoholism. By spending berry little time thinking about these problems, I don’t have them.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:28 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing Good evening Keith, is this something you are very familiar with? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:32 +0100)
@kirstyes @beingyourdoing Welcome on board. Look forward to hearing your views. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:54:39 +0100)
@allisulli @kirsi_hyvarinen @Lisa_D_OT maybe the key to shift is to focus on grant monies for prevention and promotion at the school-age level #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:55:00 +0100)
@Trio33 #occhat Salutogenesis great word and what little I’ve read sounds REALLY interesting(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:55:34 +0100)
@kirstyes So with 5 minutes to go. What ‘new’ information has this provided to OS (and/or the practice of OT)? Will this change anything? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:55:55 +0100)
@Helen_otuk We all seem to agree… RT @Trio33 : #occhat Salutogenesis great word and what little Ive read sounds REALLY interesting #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:17 +0100)
@cgenter @kirstyes @bobcollinsOT #occhat have seen it mentioned in relation to asset based health approach http://t.co/rz77tobM (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:24 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 Hi. I’ve just realised reading your post that Salut is said as a toast ‘to your health’ (Doh can’t believe how behind I am) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:57:13 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @allisulli : @kirsi_hyvarinen maybe the key to shift is to focus on grant monies for prevention &promotion at the school-age level #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:57:21 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes Gradual is better than none and I agree @DeanOrnishMD . Look at Lifestyle Redesign. Well aging. @uscosot . #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:57:52 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes not sure it is ‘new’ information, but a way of framing the idea. This always help to ‘get the idea’ across. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:58:29 +0100)
@beingyourdoing Recovery model I follow encourages me to stop living in the problem and start living in the solution. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:58:41 +0100)
@cgenter @kirsi_hyvarinen @helen_otuk #occhat right, this is the one i meant http://t.co/2V22S3SS (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:59:33 +0100)
@Trio33 #occhat is this chat every Tues 8pm??(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:59:40 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli Would you be around in a fortnight to host (with support) the “ccupational artistry as antidote to occupational science” #occhat ?(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:00:04 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @cgenter thanks… #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:00:51 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes salutogenesis gives a slightly different perspective on health, but one that fits with how we promote health as OTs 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:00:56 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 If you can get hold of the Journal of Occupational Science article mentioned further back mentions flow and Salutogenesis #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:01:01 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter Thanks. #occhat @helen_otuk (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:02:04 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @beingyourdoing yes seems to fit well with the salutogenic approach #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:02:16 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes honor and a pleasure to co-host! Justifies my undergraduate fine arts degree and ego needs:) Highly salutogenic, indeed:) #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:02:25 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen Thanks to all. #occhat I’ve to go to sleep now…(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:04:36 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes have you got all the reference materials from this evening? I have many tabs open… do you want me to capture them too? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:04:47 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirsi_hyvarinen sleep well, good to have you with us. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:05:16 +0100)
@allisulli @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes interesting to do a side by side comparision of MOHO, EOHP, and Salutogenesis. #occhat As long as its not me doing it:)(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:05:49 +0100)
@kirsi_hyvarinen @Helen_otuk It was very nice to join #occhat for long time. Take care!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:06:22 +0100)
@kirstyes Lst thoughts?
Nxt wk #OTalk follows on from the blogging one further exploring concept of privacy.
Nxt #occhat ‘occ artistry antidote to OS(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:07:17 +0100)
@kirstyes @kirsi_hyvarinen @Helen_otuk Thanks for your links and contrbution #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:07:33 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT Thanks all for a great #occhat , see you next time 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:08:01 +0100)
@kirstyes @allisulli @Lisa_D_OT EOHP? Mind blank #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:08:02 +0100)
@Trio33 My first #occhat very interesting – thnks all!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:09:12 +0100)
@kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT Thanks Lisa – fab tweets from you tonight. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:09:18 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes thinking about embedding discussion in Royeen’s 2003 Slagle lecture on chaos theory. #Chaos as the #art of occupation #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:10:13 +0100)
@kirstyes @Trio33 Thank you so much for joining us. Any questions you have please don’t hesitate to ask. #occhat . You may be interested in @OSEurope 2(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:10:25 +0100)
@Helen_otuk As usual… GREAT chat, thanks all esp. @cgenter for suggesting this and @kirstyes for all the reference materials. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:10:44 +0100)
@Th00ha @cgenter @Helen_otuk just joining in. Is this model related to just mental health though? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:11:09 +0100)
@kirstyes @Helen_otuk @cgenter And thanks to Helen for getting excited about databases and Hitchiker books. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:12:35 +0100)
@Th00ha @kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT that actually helps this model make more sense, thanks. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:12:49 +0100)
@kirstyes @Th00ha @cgenter @Helen_otuk No definitely not just MH – this is considering origins of health in general #occhat bt often resides in coping(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:13:30 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @Th00ha seems to be often related to public health and health promotion. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:22 +0100)
@allisulli RT @kirstyes : @Helen_otuk @cgenter And thanks to Helen for getting excited about databases and Hitchiker books. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:51 +0100)
@Helen_otuk @kirstyes lol… two of my favourite things! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:55 +0100)
@allisulli RT @Helen_otuk : As usual… GREAT chat, thanks all esp. @cgenter for suggesting this and @kirstyes for all the reference materials. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:14:59 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @bobcollinsOT : @Helen_otuk @kirstyes Yeah. agreed, nothing new but provides a nice academic framework? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:19:50 +0100)
@kirstyes ? @allisulli : @kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT Ecology of Human Peformance:)? #occhat Another new one to look up. I learn so much (too much ;0)) on these(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:21:51 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes Surrealism as Our Art: Occupational therapists see the surreal in order to help people get real. Royeen, 2003. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:22:45 +0100)
@Lisa_D_OT RT @kirstyes : ? @allisulli : Ecology of Human Peformance:)? Another new one to look up. I learn so much (too much ;0)) on these #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:25:48 +0100)
@uscosot RT @allisulli : @kirstyes Gradual is better than none and I agree @DeanOrnishMD . Look at Lifestyle Redesign. Well aging. @uscosot . #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:27:30 +0100)
@allisulli @kirstyes @Lisa_D_OT EHOP Winnie Dunn, Brown, & McGuigan, 1994. Christiansen and Baum 1997;. Univ of Kansas #OT dept theory basis #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:28:16 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat important factor for Salutogenesis seems to be attitude. Not what happens (or what conditions we have) but attitude to it.(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:32:33 +0100)
@beingyourdoing #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:36:09 +0100)
@charl885 @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes @allisulli ecology of human performance is by far my favourite model #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 21:47:11 +0100)
@pphealthcare RT @Lisa_D_OT : Thanks all for a great #occhat , see you next time 🙂 #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:15:47 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter same here. When I read that term, I was like, huh? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:19:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirsi_hyvarinen @cgenter I don’t know about Chinese either. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:19:49 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes from a consumer POV, health literacy really helped me in managing myself. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:20:50 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Helen_otuk @cgenter what is not widely known exactly? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:21:46 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Lisa_D_OT @kirstyes and I also think it ties into loci of control. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:22:20 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @allisulli : @Lisa_D_OT unfortunately, not even. Disease-treatment. Dis-ease management. Who cares? #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:22:52 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha @cgenter @helen_otuk don’t think so. It can be phys dys, too. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:24:12 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:24:29 +0100)
@BillWongOT @kirstyes @allisulli @otalk_occhat LOVE IT!!! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:24:55 +0100)
@BillWongOT @charl885 @lisa_d_ot @kirstyes @allisulli my favorite is the MOHO. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:25:39 +0100)
@BillWongOT @allisulli @kirstyes LRD is sort of like outpatient. If it’s inpatient, I won’t be doing placements at this moment… Lol! #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:27:55 +0100)
@BillWongOT Just to note, I think today’s topic applies to caregivers and consumers. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:18:40 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:29:35 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life and I believe we need to teach our clients that. Read too many depressive posts by people w/ Aspergers. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:38:22 +0100)
@BillWongOT One thing we OT’s need to educate clients- they can’t put complete blame on their injuries and/or diagnoses if they are depressed. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:42:37 +0100)
@Th00ha @BillWongOT yeah agreed, because they are a huge part of the environment tht will shape their recovery focus. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:45:04 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life also mental health. Some people with AS like me have great mental health, but some have very poor mental health. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:45:27 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha and this also includes the community. I benefitted from the support of OT community in my recovery experience. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:46:47 +0100)
@Symbolic_Life #occhat Very much enjoyed catching up! Sorry I missed it. Netball called. #cheersyouwonderfulOTs #attemptingtocharmoccchat 🙂 #itsmynature (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:47:37 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life you still can. That is what I have been doing for the past hour. They don’t grab chat until >= 24 hours now. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:49:19 +0100)
@BillWongOT RT @Th00ha : @BillWongOT yeah agreed, because they are a huge part of the environment tht will shape their recovery focus. #occhat (Tue, 03 Jul 2012 23:50:14 +0100)
@Th00ha @BillWongOT @Symbolic_Life oh good to know. I hv to wake up at 5am to join coz I’m in Sydney! #occhat (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:08:58 +0100)
@BillWongOT @Th00ha @symbolic_life I am doing it for the past hour because I missed the live chat, as I have placement. #occhat (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:10:10 +0100)
@allisulli @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence, promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!”(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 04:02:26 +0100)
@gilliancrossley @Helen_otuk @kirstyes #OCCHAT looks interesting! I agree that not necessarily new idea, I like the framing! sorry missed it!(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 09:55:12 +0100)
@Trio33 Following #occhat last night my word of the week is salutogenesis(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 17:21:26 +0100)
@kirstyes RT @Trio33 : Following #occhat last night my word of the week is salutogenesis(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:33:31 +0100)
@kirstyes @Symbolic_Life Thanks for the #occhat charm.(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:34:09 +0100)
@clissa89 Sad to have missed #occhat yesterday, was at work. Must get my head around this ‘salutogenesis’. #OTuesday (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:57:00 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @beingyourdoing : #occhat salutogenic attitude promoted by sense of coherence. Sense of coherence promoted by belief I am part of a greater whole. Think PEO!(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:11:15 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @Helen_otuk : The Folkh�lsan Research Centre have a lot of publications more recently. http://t.co/kR4MyyoX #occhat (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:13:07 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @kirstyes : #occhat http://t.co/dm60wH26
Website called Health in the river of life – KAWA links anyone??(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:13:48 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @BAOTCOT : #Occhat at 8pm discusses Salutogenesis, an approach focusing on factors that support health & well-being http://t.co/u938Gwgg #OTuesday (Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:14:00 +0100)
@LeonoraOT RT @Helen_otuk : @JoaoXConsLeite every tuesday 8pm(UK) either #OTalk or #Occhat . Blog http://t.co/1DDb4sFl and on FB https://t.co/PFk9KEWB Do join us.(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:14:20 +0100)
@LeonoraOT Me too RT? @clissa89 : Sad to have missed #occhat yesterday, was at work. Must get my head around this ‘salutogenesis’. #OTuesday ?(Wed, 04 Jul 2012 23:16:31 +0100)

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